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NX : Why Nintendo's Next Console Release Must Not Fail

This is it, it is crunch time for Nintendo; no one knows this better than the company itself. The Wii U was a failure. How will Nintendo rise above its current state and return back to its former glory?

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Yukes3985d ago

"Let’s be clear, this is not a battle for Nintendo’s survival. This is because as long as Nintendo makes stellar first party software, it will always be around and will never go anywhere."

Completely agree. With the commercial failure of the Wii U, the NX has the potential to mark Nintendo's last foray into the console hardware market, if not the handheld market. Some sensible marketing this time around would go a long way!

Neonridr3985d ago

why would it have the potential to make it their last foray? They have enough capital to survive several failed consoles. Besides the 3DS is still printing them money, so it's not like the company is exactly hurting at the moment..

Yukes3985d ago

Why would they keep pursuing an avenue if it kept consistently failing? That wouldn't make sound business sense. Agree with the 3DS, which is why I think they'll focus on handhelds IF the NX isn't a success. But fingers crossed it will be!

Angeljuice3985d ago

You can have as much money in the bank as you like, if you can't make a product that sells, your company is in trouble.

How many failed home consoles before they decide to concentrate solely on more profitable ventures?

If the NX fails, the pressure from shareholders would be too great and Nintendo would likely have to stick to handhelds and software (although I think the NX is a handheld/home hybrid anyway).

LOL_WUT3985d ago

Nintendo needs new management or the NX will FAIL their new CEO needs to embrace the west and know what gamers want for their sake of staying relevant. ;)

iamnsuperman3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

Capital is irreverent if they have no influence/foothold in a market. If it fails investors will freak and demand a rethink, you just end up loosing said capital and no-one cares what you release in the present and in the future.

You are not going to attract new investors or content makers if each major product you release sells dramatically less than the previous one (it is a bad investment). Nintendo's handheld division isn't exactly safe from this trend but at least they have shown awareness of this and have potentially made steps to prevent their strongest division going the way of their home console divison

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gamingpro3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

Nintendos last foray in the console hardware market. Looool u wish, Nintendo isn't going anywhere.

@yukes Wii U is only a failure to the casuals who all went and bought a ps4. To the hard-core gamer it's a success unmatched by any other console.
The other consoles sold more but Wii U has the better games and they wernt all broken on release needing patch after patch.

Yukes3985d ago

Honestly, that's the most flawed argument I've heard in ages. I own a Wii U, and love some of its first party titles, but to deny that it has been a commercial failure is bonkers.
I dearly hope Nintendo can get back to a position of strength in the console market (why would anybody in their right mind hope otherwise?) but it will be largely dependent on the success of the NX.

GordonKnight3985d ago

Both of you are wrong.

Nintendo doesn't make decisions that make business sense, especially in today's market. They have their vision and they don't let competitors or the market steer that vision.

What console has the bast games; that subjective. What console is commercially on top that doesn't matter; along as the console is supported with quality games. All three consoles have great support.

mcstorm3985d ago

@GordonKnight your spot on. I also don't think Nintendo have made a bad home console yet but what has hurt them more than anything is the 3rd party support.
To have a successful home console you need the full backing of the big 3rd party games.
In a way gaming has become a popular technology but it is run by the YoY games like cod, bf, nfs, FIFA, nhl, NBA, AC etc that sell millions each year and are the reason why a lot of gamers are buying consoles.

That said Nintendo's IP's ESP super smash bros and Mario kart have a massive attachment rate and Nintendo know that theses games will sell very well on there consoles throughout the console life unlike other 1st party IP's.

I do hope the NX can get some of the market back from Sony and Microsoft and also pull in the 3rd party big names but I also hope that Nintendo keep the magic feel their home consoles have and its not just another PlayStation or Xbox.

For me we need 3 names in the console business and if Nintendo drop out we may get apple stepping in and for me I really don't want that to happen as it would kill gaming imo.

DougLord3985d ago

OMFG - you made me spit my Coke through my nose. "To the hard-core gamer it's a success unmatched by any other console". That is some great sarc.

HOWEVER, why are we pretending like Nintendo has had a string of failed consoles when the 3DS and Wii (non-U) were recent, massive hits. One flop does not make a trend.

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deafdani3985d ago

You're exxagerating quite a lot here.

Yes, the Wii U is Nintendo's least selling home console in history.

But it's still profitable for Nintendo.

It takes more than a poorly selling hardware (that still profits the parent company), to make a business like Nintendo go bankrupt or vow out of the hardware race.

Sega had several flops that lost them billions of dollars before being forced out of the hardware business with the Dreamcast, despite it being an awesome console.

So, I suspect Nintendo wouldn't be out of the race even if the NX was an actual flop that lost them money. They probably could still come out with another new console, ro two, before calling it quits if those make them lose money, as well.

And that's without taking into account their handheld business, which is pretty healthy, to put it mildly.

hamshira3985d ago

This is about Nintendo's publicity profile and its relationship with third parties. Nintendo can keep going on its own if it wants, but if it really wants to rake it in, it needs to win back the third parties.

deafdani3985d ago

@hamshira: I completely agree with you, Nintendo needs to get the third party support back, big time.

That doesn't contradict anything I said before, though. I was only making the point that Nintendo probably can get through one more flop, or two. Not that they should do it, of course. :P

GordonKnight3985d ago

The same thing was said about the GameCube, Wii, & Wii U.

3-4-53985d ago

* Nintendo isn't going anywhere.

They could survive alone on the handheld money they bring in.

NX is going to sell well because it's going to be at least as powerful as the PS4/Xb1.

^ This eliminates any complaint of " not powerful enough", and takes one huge excuse away from 3rd party dev's.

* We will get realistic graphics/art style + colorful fun art styles as well.

Aside from graphics, I think the game potential for the NX is the greatest of the 3.

* It will be New = New games that CAN'T be played on XB1 or PS4.

* Will be able to play the games that ARE on the PS4 + XB1, so that gets rid of that Pro for the PS4/XB1 against Nintendo.

* It's basically going to even the playing field, + include new Nintendo games + some other stuff we don't know of yet.

* I think with Iwata's passing as well, whatever hesitations they may have, they may go through with them.

We may benefit from his passing in that his memory might serve the employees of Nintendo to do and achieve more and work even harder than they already do, to honor the legacy of Iwata.

Just my theory though.

NintendoSonyfan3985d ago

I agree they need to advertise the hell out of it, but if it did fail it would not knock Nintendo out of the industry. You say in the next post why would they continue to pursue something that is consistently failing, but you can't say that if only 2 of their consoles out of 7 fail that there is a consistency in it. 1 handheld out of their whole line has failed. I see nothing consistent in them failing.

pcz3985d ago

the NX needs to be a console for gamers that also has the benefit of being the home of nintendo games.

if it is a console for nintendo fans, with its only selling point being that it is home of nintendo games- it will fail.

nintendo needs more than nintendo to survive in the industry. nintendo needs to realise it needs third party support to give their consoles an appeal to a much wider audience.

carmelo433985d ago

so you enjoy playing the same games over an over, nintendo havnt made anything as good as mario64 since but hey if you like old games with new consoles thats great lol

N4g_null3985d ago

I swore you was talking about the PS4 remasters there for a second... WTF is going on with god of war... im really getting tired of the remasters.

Nintendo will be fine. They still make games that others just can't regardless if you like them or not. Plus they are not bleeding money off huge bad decisions.

Combining the handheld and console should work wonders for them. The droughts should be ending. The 3rd party thing... how knows? I mean they don't even really support PC all that well either.

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hamshira3985d ago

Just because you have enough capital doesn't mean you should throw away money - Nintendo's playing it safe.

GordonKnight3985d ago

Nintendo has not played it safe at all. They always do what they want and not what the industry wants. That's not playing safe by any means.

Officialxandr3985d ago

Which is all Nintendo does...play it safe (for the majority of the time).

pcz3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

nintendo have been playing it safe for years now.

since iwatas passing i have started to think maybe nintendos recent strategy (the last ten years) of releasing old technology might have been a deliberate move by a company owner fully aware of his poor health issues.

he is responsible for the company, maybe as his health became uncertain, he had to make business decisions to put the company in 'safe mode'.. the wii and wiiu both seem very cautious to me. as if the future of the company is uncertain so they play it safe by not investing money in technology that they would have to sell at a loss during a time of great uncertainty.

i think the NX will continue this trend for nintendo while they are in this transitional phase. but i dont know if they will survive it, because really- it shows lack of confidence and direction. the games suffer and the gamers arent interested.

nintendo has lost a visionary leader, one who practically gave them their identity and all their valuable assets. but even in the last 10 years, tragically that faded along with iwatas health.

i think it is the end of nintendo, as we know it. just as there was a golden era with disney, while disney himself was alive. the characters still live on, but they dont have that direction, they dont have that magic.

i know many people say nintendo lost its magic in recent years, i think with the shock passing of iwata, its starting to make sense why that magic was fading...

deafdani3985d ago

What a load of bull. You could argue that Nintendo did indeed play it safe with the Wii U (and I would agree with you on that), but not on the Wii.

The Wii was a pretty big risk from Nintendo's part. Shying away from the powerful hardware route, and betting on motion controls as a integral part of their new console, giving it a completely different identity from the other two consoles? That was a pretty damn big risk they took there.

Nah, I don't believe Iwata's decisions regarding Nintendo as a whole had anything to do with his own health. That's an absurd theory and there's no proof whatsoever about it, only your wishful thinking.

GamahFoLife3985d ago

I think they will do well this time around.

They were already showing hardware to developers at E3, and dev kits will be going out soon: postimg.org/image/jm2qqn003

Also the lack of upcoming Wii U games means that they are already moving those projects to the NX. This in turn gives them a good launch line up.

BigDuo3985d ago

We have no idea at all when NX is coming out let alone when Nintendo has or will begin to show NX to some of the third parties.

For the record, here's Wii U's R&D development scheduled based on information taken directly from Iwata Asks interviews and comments from separate occasions made by Iwata and/or Miyamoto:

- Wii U development began early discussions in 2008
- By April 2009, Nintendo's console engineering team was busy designing Wii U's basic architecture structure and testing of its performance

- By the time Wii Sports Resort came out in June 2009, Nintendo's EAD began prototyping for what would turn into the GamePad controller and its asymmetric gameplay capabilities.

- By 2010, Wii U launch software development was underway. These projects would later be used as playable tech demos at E3 2011.

- Also in 2010, Pikmin 3's development was far along, but Miyamoto made the decision to transfer the game's development to Wii U and Iwata would later announce the game's status as a new generational title at E3 2011.

- By April 2011, prior to E3, more rumors were spreading about Nintendo's new home console. It's codename, Project Cafe, was leaked and its controller was said to include a touchscreen and asymmetric gameplay.

- Third party devs like Virgil Games, revealed that it was in possession of its Wii U dev kit back in early 2011 just roughly a month before E3 in June. The dev kit controller it was given resembled a large, clunky Gameboy. The GamePad controller revealed at E3 2011 in June, was not the same controller it was given earlier in that year.

- At E3 2011, Nintendo revealed Wii U as the official name and the public's first look at the prototype GamePad that used circle pads on it and console box. This was also presented to third parties for the first time, even developers that already had been given Wii U dev kits prior to E3. However, some features were not yet included such as the NFC tech while the built-in camera was not completed until Summer-Fall 2011.

- By July, Virgil Games was in possession of a 2nd party dev kit. Virgil stated that Wii U's hardware power was basically on parr with Xbox 360 and PS3's, but due to the nature of dev kits, they could not confirm if it would become more powerful in future released dev kits.

- In January 2012, Iwata publicly announced that the GamePad would support NFC technology, but the development team did not expect Iwata to reveal this news since development was behind schedule. Fortunately, the dev team was able to add in the NFC device in time for its reveal at E3 2012 in June. However, it was not shown to be working, so it could have just been for appearances only. Pokemon Rumble U was the first game to use NFC in 2013 followed by Amiibo in 2014.

- At E3 in June 2012, Nintendo revealed the near finalized version of the GamePad. It featured various improvements such as analog sticks added, NFC added, lighter weight, enhanced ergonomically design and changed positions of buttons.

- Around June 2012, third parties were in possession of final dev kits that were tagged as "mass production units."

- By September 2012, Nintendo revealed Wii U's pricing, two SKUS and launch date.

- The Wii U launched in November 2012.

Angeljuice3985d ago

That's a lot of research you've done there.

ABizzel13985d ago

"We have no idea at all when NX is coming out let alone when Nintendo has or will begin to show NX to some of the third parties. "

*Several 3rd party developers have already stated seeing the NX, and making games for it.

*Nintendo already said they'll discuss NX at E3 2016, (2016 - 2017 launch).

MadLad3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

As much as I love Nintendo, I could honestly see them stopping with the home console business if they have two weak showings in that space, back to back.

It would make more sense for them, financially (not to mention less headaches), to then just concentrate on the handheld market. Leaving them to act as a 3rd party publisher in the console space, where they could increase their install base, though keep the cost of development the same.
And then you always still have the Amiibo crazy (probably then handled as Activision does Skylanders).

Strong handheld presence, mobile, and possibly the most reputable 3rd party publisher with the largest amount of high quality content in the console space.

To call them a powerhouse there, all the same, would not be a stretch.

That said, I would like for them to stay the company as they are now. The Wii U certainly isn't doing for them that which they wish, however.

Relientk773985d ago

Nintendo will still make handheld but if the NX does do terrible saleswise Nintendo may drop out of the home console race

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The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7774d ago (Edited 74d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer99d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi98d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure98d ago (Edited 98d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer99d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot99d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box98d ago (Edited 98d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno99d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay99d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno97d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK97d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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