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Nintendo Needs To Shut Up

Richard Drummond of Gaming Tech United writes:

"It's common knowledge that Nintendo's E3 Digital Event didn't go off as smoothly as they had hoped. Many hardcore fans were left disappointed and angry at what they saw, and the lack of major titles had many scratching their heads. Since then, Miyamoto, Reggie, and Iwata have came out to discuss E3 with the media, yet the way they have done so has not settled with many, including myself."

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KindaGrump3970d ago

I actually agree with you on this one. Nintendo is not in the position to be criticizing their competition. They're in third place right now and their competition is showing NO signs of slowing down.

"All in all, I get like this with Nintendo because I love them. They have the best characters, some of the best first party games, and the creativity there is something special. "

And I like that you don't act like you don't like Nintendo either. Very fair criticisms.

NinjaRichParty3970d ago

Thanks man. Like you pointed out from the article, I love Nintendo's work, but with them in this spot, I just can't support that criticism. I think their time should be spent on fixing their own problems, not pointing out those from the competition.

KindaGrump3970d ago

Exactly. Nintendo has a lot to address internally right now, I don't know that their resources and time are best spent talking about Sony and Microsoft.

GordonKnight3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

You are not out of your mind at all.

Nintendo does have a right to give their opinion, but should they? Not at this time.

Everyone is very opinionated when it comes to Nintendo and the hate is horrible. These guys were bound to a shot back. They're in a dark place right now and it must be very hard not to take shots every time they talk with the media.

RPGrinder3970d ago (Edited 3970d ago )

They are first place in software
They are first place in toys to life
They are first place in handhelds

Only thing they are not doing great at is console hardware right now. The rest you cannot argue with.

@RDR

Hardware is really not the most important. Hell Wii U still has the best collection of exclusives. Nintendo has done right by Wii U.

NinjaRichParty3970d ago (Edited 3970d ago )

No one is arguing they're the best in those categories (although software is up to personal taste). They have the best IP's, the best characters, and the best handheld library.

They just have to work on their hardware, and unfortunately, hardware is the most important. The Wii U isn't holding a candle to the PS4 and Xbox One in sales and it's been out longer. If the NX can be a powerful machine, that welcomes easy development for third parties, then I'll be a huge supporter of it.

I love Nintendo and their characters, I just wish they were on the same playing field in terms of hardware.

EDIT:
Sales numbers indicate that hardware IS the most important. Sorry bud.

KindaGrump3970d ago

How is hardware not the most important? Of course Nintendo has the best exclusives, they have for awhile now, but numbers tell the story. In a world that revolves around money and numbers, sales numbers are king.

The only thing that the Wii U is lacking is hardware power and third party support. The numbers talk. The PS4 and Xbox One have better hardware and will sell more. That's not being a fan boy, those are just facts.

RPGrinder3970d ago (Edited 3970d ago )

Nintendo has been in profit. Sony has not for the longest time. Has hardware helped them then?

Would you rather have

1) A console that is not selling but the best exclusives

2) A console that is selling but does not have the games to back it up.

That is basically the argument.

Nintendo at the very least is supporting the Wii U and the 3DS as best they can with the games they have.

Sony is not supporting the PS4 or Vita. PS4 is coming, but Vita they abandoned. Where were the articles saying they should not have run there mouths about Vita recently? Or about software?

Nintendo is not perfect, but they supply games.

The reality is Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, they all run there mouths. Calling out Nintendo is bush league.

Edit:

You mean the Playstation 4 brand is strong. Sony gaming software has been down (in sales and in critical reception of most games). Vita is down. They have one leg they are standing on. That is a bright future? Different strokes indeed.

I know this is hard for many people to get but 3DS is a huge money maker. Like PS4. The difference is Sony has completely abandoned its non money maker Vita. Nintendo has not abandoned Wii U.

Nintendo can trash talk with anyone. They all do it.

KindaGrump3970d ago

Sony has been in trouble, yes, but the PlayStation brand has not. I'll take the system that has third party support, the power to back it up, and a future that looks very bright.

The Wii U's best days are close to being behind it. LoZ is the last major game that will come to it. Nintendo is focusing its time and development into the NX.

I'm not arguing that the Wii U doesn't have great 1st party titles, but there's nothing to play in between them. I've played my PS4 every single day since launch with 1st party and 3rd party titles.

Different strokes for different stroke, my man.

GamingChip793970d ago

You're coming off as Anti- Sony / MS and less Pro-Nintendo. I think that's why people are being negative towards you, dude. You can hold up Nintendo without trashing Sony. PS is winning the console war right now. There's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't mean that you're wrong in enjoying the Wii U and 3DS.

feelforlove3970d ago

they are last place in

third party support
online service
hardware

feelforlove3970d ago

yes, so far Wii U has best exclusives out of 3 home consoles. Wii U is also longest on market - released 1 year before PS4 and Xbox One - in next 12 months PS4 will get Persona 5, Street Fighter V, Uncharted 4 and Ratchet & Clank.

feelforlove3970d ago

"Nintendo has been in profit."

yes, last fiscal year. you don't want to talk about 3 years before?

"I know this is hard for many people to get but 3DS is a huge money maker. "

sure it is. 50 million hardware sold, 200 million software sold. For instance PS2 sold 1,5 billion software - 7X more

Chronoman23970d ago

@feel

Oh the ignorance........The last 3 years before Sony was losing billions.

Really? Your reaching back to the PS2? Really? I feel bad for you. Not like I brought up DS.

The trolls sure are desperate here.

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GamingChip793970d ago

I think you're spot on with this. Nintendo has been on its high horse for awhile. When they're on top, it comes off as being very wise, but when they're in this spot, it just seems cocky and out of character for them.

NinjaRichParty3970d ago

I'm glad I'm not coming off as a dick here. Like I said in the comment above to KG, Nintendo has killer IP's and I love their characters, but I just don't know why they're acting like they're on some sort of high horse here.

GamingChip793970d ago

Yeah, I don't think you're being too negative. I think it's good that you're analyzing quotes. If this was unprovoked and you went after them, I'd be against this, but these quotes did not sit well with me either.

Majin-vegeta3970d ago

Nintendo really are beyond dummies at this point.They need to replace iwata&Reggie and replace them with someone who knows what fans want.Look at SE Wada just left and now SE seems to be going in the right place.

ALSO WHERE THE HELL WAS MY POKKEN TOURNAMENT?!!At least it would have been somehting that was actually worth watching at their lame conference

NinjaRichParty3970d ago

I want to say Pokken Tournament is an arcade game to will eventually make its way to the console scene? I think I had read that somewhere.

OT: I do agree that Nintendo needs some fresh faces facing towards the public.

GamingChip793970d ago

Yes, RDR is correct. It is hitting arcades this month. I don't know if it has been discussed about it coming to console though. Maybe it'll be a NX launch title?

NinjaRichParty3970d ago

I'm glad you agree. Hopefully I didn't come off too negative in this piece. I enjoy Nintendo's work, but this is just a bit too much for me.

KindaGrump3970d ago

I just hope Nintendo returns to form. I hope the NX is a powerful machine that is easy to develop for. I can't imagine a console that has great third party support AND the amazing first party line up of Nintendo IP's. I would go crazy for that.

RPGrinder3970d ago (Edited 3970d ago )

They are first place in software
They are first place in toys to life
They are first place in handhelds

Only thing they are not doing great at is console hardware right now. The rest you cannot argue with.

They can talk about what they want. Not to mention half the things in this article are fallacy, like the VR thing which was confirmed to be nothing but half quotes and half truths.

Spotie3970d ago

First in software? Not to me. Not last, but far from first.

Toys to life? Are you making up categories now? That's sad.

Good for them in handhelds.

What about consoles?

Third party support?

Software sales?

The Wii U has been out three years, and already they're making news of its replacement commonplace.

Get out of here with this blind as a bat nonsense.

Chronoman23970d ago

Metacritic, journalists would disagree with you on the software front.

NPD recognizes it as a category now, way to keep up.

Best collection of exclusives on consoles.

Does not have third party support, the others do not really have first party support, so whatever is important to you.

Would you rather Nintendo do with Wii U like Sony is doing with Vita and kill it slowly with nothing?

It is called logic. Get used to it.

superchiller3969d ago

@ Spotie - Have you noticed that RPGrinder uses his second shill account, Chronoman2, to try to support his inane comments? Mods really should disable the Chronoman2 account, it's a sleazy thing that shouldn't be allowed. Was it you who originally noticed this, or someone else?

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Relientk7745d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer69d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi69d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer69d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot69d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno69d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay69d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno68d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK68d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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