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E3 2015: Microsoft Strikes Back

PYB: Microsoft finally answered back to Sony with one hell of an E3 Presentation and sent shockwaves all over the gaming stratosphere. After two years of slack from gamers, is Microsoft back for one more round against Sony?

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joyride913957d ago

well written piece. It doesnt try to take any sides and is very obective about the entire E3 presentation by Microsoft. I hope Sony counters this move with better games (which they plan to) if they can't deliver bc.

Hellsvacancy3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

You agree with an article you wrote yourself....... niiice

And what are these "shockwaves" you speak of?

joyride913957d ago

I didnt write it. but the article talks about the shockwaves.

nix3957d ago

Here comes the heaps of websites we've never heard of.

breakpad3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

i dont think it was a strike back ...BC on Xone is pretty much useless (doesnt have the huge library from PS consoles and all their quality games are re-released as remasters), Rare showed a completely bland game and Gear 4 needs a lot of work to be characterised as megaton

styferion3956d ago

Maybe he was talking about how there are so many articles talking about Halo 5, GoW, Forza while FFVII, Shenmue, TLG, and Horizon barely mentioned in any game news outlet... oh wait.

badz1493956d ago

Strikes back? Shockwaves? With what? BC or the same old IPs they have presented in their E3 every year? HALO, Gears, Forza, Fable...rinse and repeat!

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johndoe112113957d ago

It blows my mind how all of a sudden xbox supporters have decided that backward compatibility is the greatest thing ever. something that I guarantee you most of them would never use. After bragging about all the great exclusives that microsoft will be releasing this year and the next when will you guys be getting the time to play all these old last gen games? Please someone, enlighten me.

FlexLuger3957d ago

"It blows my mind how all of a sudden xbox supporters have decided that backward compatibility is the greatest thing ever."

You guys sure do love to exaggerate. Nobody is saying BC is the best thing ever. Its a great feature for those us that have XBLA games that number in the hundreds.

"something that I guarantee you most of them would never use."

Dont make guarantees on something you simply cant. I know I will make use of the feature so you are not speaking for me or any other xbox gamer.

"After bragging about all the great exclusives that microsoft will be releasing this year and the next when will you guys be getting the time to play all these old last gen games? Please someone, enlighten me."

Well...we do have both. And we are not being charged to play games we already own on our new consoles. But thats not even the main reason for buying an XB1...you DO realise that right. Its simply a great feature. The thousands I spent on XBLA and on content for my older games, doesnt go to waste because I sold my x360. It dont matter if we dont have time to play them all, what matters is we have the option to keep playing our old faves alongside those great NEW exclusives if we choose to. Its not one or the other for us. Will PS fans be playing all those exclusive indies they link from listwars.com? I doubt it but that never stops them from posting a full list.

johndoe112113957d ago

@flexluger

"You guys sure do love to exaggerate. Nobody is saying BC is the best thing ever"

I cannot t3ll you how many people on this site, and many others, have said that bc is a game changer and that it will turn the tides of the ps4/Xbox one console war. You know this and I know this so stop it with the hypocrisy.

"you are not speaking for me or any other xbox gamer"

I may not be speaking to you but you are in no position to tell me that I'm not speaking for anyone else. The history of the ps3/xbox 360 (which both had that feature) showed that bc was not a very used feature.

You seem to be telling me what I can't do while doing it yourself. BC is not going to change the fact that the ps4 will continue to outsell the xbox one. It's great that they added it but the way it's being treated as some secret weapon is ludicrous.

FlexLuger3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

"BC is not going to change the fact that the ps4 will continue to outsell the xbox one."

Who said it would?Quote them. Sometimes its like talking to a brick wall with you guys.

"It's great that they added it but the way it's being treated as some secret weapon is ludicrous."

Whats ludicrous is that you sit their and conjure this kind of theory up. how old are you? Its a great feature for long time xbox users. That also happens to include X360 owners. This is a great bonus for them when choosing their new console. Its not a 'secret weapon' or some kind of 'game changer' and it doesnt even matter if it isnt. XB1 is outselling its predessor. They can be second placed to PS4 all gen, and probably will to be honest, but they are still making their money. Business is still good. And as an xbox gamer Im happy with all the cobnsole offers and has coming.they have looked after their customers good with this one. It deserves praise. Buts its no gamechanger. Im telling you that as an xbox gamer. I hope this calms your nerves.

Thats my honest opinion. None of this conspiracy, secret weapon, nonsense

"I may not be speaking to you but you are in no position to tell me that I'm not speaking for anyone else."

Dont make me laugh! You are not even an xbox owner. You are not even remotely qualified to talk on an xbox gamers tastes outside of your own 'dudebro' stereo types you probably have of them. Your opinion of the cannot be taken seriously and you SHOULD be chin checked, hence why I responded. Quite frankly you cant speak for anybody but yourself and you damn sure cant speak for a demograph of gamers which you have no real contact with beyond N4G. You sound silly saying that. Of course you should be called out on that.

nicksetzer13957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

@john doe you are right, noone really wanted backwards compatibility. It just suddenly became a thing people want because MS announced it, no other reason.

People definitely don't want to play 360 game on their Xbox One or get their digital purchases back either. It certainly wasn't the number 1 most requested feature.

https://xbox.uservoice.com/...

Of course, using facts is for "fanboys" ... right?

christocolus3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

@Flexluger and @nicksetzer1

well said. bubs up guys.

@John doe

You have no idea what you are talking about cos you are not an Xbox gamer and you obviously don't have a back catalogue which you'd love to go back to so dont speak for Xbox fans. This was the most requested feature by fans on the feedback site and we got it,i wonder why its so difficult to understand this.Its a big deal for Xbox one fans and those who're still playing on 360 but plan to move over to Xbox One this holiday.

omegaheat3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

@ John Doe, that blows your mind? You're concerned about someone else's obsession to play their old games library on their newer console as well as being concerned about how they may have the time to play them. I can enlighten you...Get a f@$king life man. Backwards compatibility is not going to all of a sudden cause your PS4 console to shut down when owners of an XboxOne play there Xbox360 back catalog on their console. Yeah, I went there.

ScorpiusX3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

When doesn't matter , what matters is knowing that at anytime during our console ownership we can play all the games offered to us be them new or old . Just knowing you can is a big plus for any xbox one owner.

Dramacydal3957d ago

You have to separate gamers from posers first. The reality is backwards compatibility doesn't matter anymore. If it did, there would have been BC outrage at the start of this generation. Sony obviously went another direction with PlayStation Now, focusing on digital streaming and back catalog access for a monthly fee (indirect BC), while Microsoft said they "couldn't" provide BC because of architectural differences between the 360 and the One. People accepted it and moved on.

BC isn't the end all be all, but it is a great value add and shouldn't be spun as useless or pointless when, by fan reaction, that's not the case. I dig being able to play 360 games on the same box I play One games and without having to cough up a monthly subscription. I don't dig the popularity contest they've created to determine what gets BC. Everything in me, you and Dupree's libraries should be playable.

warczar3957d ago

@FlexLugar

Playstation owners didn't need backwards compatability, they have these things called "Playstation 3's" that work for more than 2 years. Has it ever occurred to any of you that bc is the most requested feature by xbox fans because the 360 is such a poorly made system that if it's not dead yet is probably on its last leg?

freshslicepizza3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

@johndoe11211,
"You seem to be telling me what I can't do while doing it yourself. BC is not going to change the fact that the ps4 will continue to outsell the xbox one. It's great that they added it but the way it's being treated as some secret weapon is ludicrous."

the system is improving with new updates and new features and new games yet for some odd reason the attitude from many is the same.

so tell me, what is the point you are trying to make? some people think it's a great feature, some think it's ok and others don't care. now that that is out of the way does the system interest you at all or did you just come here looking for answers you don't want to hear?

"BC is not going to change the fact that the ps4 will continue to outsell the xbox one."

why don't you address that to those who said it? the point is the xbox one is improving and you seem to be focused on those who aren't here in this topic and want to generalize instead.

the thing is microsoft has now become more aggressive and that to me is a good thing for the consumer. they are adding more features like bc, they are lowering the price, they are offering free games. so why are you upset about a few people who may have said bc changes their opinion of the xbox one (who aren't even here that you are replying to), does that make you enjoy your ps4 less?

Docknoss3957d ago

Well considering how many 360 gamers that are still out there. Bc is extremely great in terms of sells for MS.

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Ipunchbabiesforfun3957d ago

I don't even understand why you guys sit on the internet and argue over completely useless topics. Microsoft added BC, its cool and welcome to anyone with an Xbox. I don't even understand why it's such a point of discussion? It's somehow negative that they're giving their customers the ability to play their old games? Really?

I don't even own an Xbox anymore, but I was jealous because I have a ton of PS3 games and no longer own a PS3. I'd like to play uncharted and god of war but I can't, that's my fault, but I'd like it if I could just pop in my disk and do so.

Ripsta7th3957d ago

It was actually Sony fans praising BC because the ps4 had it first thru ps now, the xbox fans were saying how they had bough their consoles to play new games
Now it just flipped, Sony fans saying its watevers , and now the xbox fans actually are praising BC

mark_parch3956d ago

nobody's saying its the greatest thing ever. Its a good feature, it was most requested by fans so it will obviously get used and its free so no complaints here. I can't wait to play south park stick of truth and also bioshock infinite as i missed that plus i would also like halo reach to complete my halo collection.

GenuineGamer3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

I don't understand why so many people are slagging off bc and trying to convince us all that its not a big deal.

Well i beg to differ. BC is a HUGE deal. It may not be for you but it is for A LOT of people!

Also recently there's rumor that original xbox games will be supported in the future too.

The amount of digital games on the xb1 store will vastly increase built up of games from every generation of xbox.

The ps3 is very similar in offering ps1 and ps2 games on the online store and i think its great.

Don't sit there and tell me that just because some games are in the past that they don't matter anymore and i don't want to play them.

Azzanation3956d ago

Lets have a look at console value. Both sell for $399 and one can play two libraries of games while the other cant. One you can sell your old console while the other you cant. BC isn't a important feature. It should be a standard feature across all systems. After all these consoles are sequels of there previous models. I would hate Steam if I couldn't play my old games, just like I would hate Xbox if I couldn't play my old games.

Not only does BC allow you to play your games you paid for last gen, it also gives access to a much bigger library of games which today sell dirt cheap. It also means we don't need another console hogging our room space and power sockets.

You may not care but now Devs can focus on more important games then remastering there old games and charging full price for again.

Its a free feature that doubled the consoles value, if they charged us for this feature then I can understand your point but again one company is giving this feature away while the other one is charging you. You do the maths.

Fallen863956d ago

Look at you fanboys! allways hating..Let's be honest. Sony fanboys just seem to be getting worse.Although more or less accepted here it has to be said that you guys act like a bunch of dunce cavemen across the web.Sony fanboys are flat out insane. They are feral beings and they freaking worship Sony. They attack every platform that is not a Sony console, they brag about paying 50 dollars a year for PS+, they pretty much think PS4 is the only gaming hardware ANY GAMER SHOULD GET. Did you know that Sony fanboys attacked a Toys R Us video to the point of it being taken down SIMPLY because it was about Xbox One? i have ps4 and xbox.. For fuck sake.. i play on them both!more on the xbox.. And yeah The 'Hater-wagon-hopper' fans. and yeah you have the ones that hop on any hate wagon 'trend' that is the latest cool-factor to attack games/series/companies just because 'Everyone else is doing it'.

Blachek3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

Backwards compatibility would have been big, for either console, if announced at launch. It would have helped early adopters by giving them a catalog they could play day 1, but I agree it isn't huge even then. Why buy a new piece of hardware just to play what you already could on your last gen device? That being said, it's good to see Microsoft making some changes that increase the utility of their console. I haven't traded in my 360 games yet, but looking at them I still don't think I have any I would try to play on an Xbox One if that's the direction I decide to go.

On a side note I'd rather see backward capability options than premature 'remasters' of games that were recently released and sold a second time. I can't comprehend how Uncharted, a great game, was remastered so early after it's initial release when so many other incredibly nostalgic games are waiting for a rebirth.

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Magicite3957d ago

..and sent shockwaves all over the gaming stratosphere.''
Bwahahaha, now thats a hyperbole!

Ricegum3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

Lol. It did make me chuckle. How this garbage gets approved I do not know. Sounds like my little 12 year old brother wrote it.

Edit: just seen Rookie_Monster's post below, haha dear Lord. Now that is hilarious.

JMyers3957d ago

There is still TGS, PSX and Paris Games week. Surely there will be more announcements from Sony. Things we haven't seen and updates on many in development projects

joab7773957d ago

What? Better games? Like The Last Guardian, Persona 5, Street Fighter 5, Uncharted 4, Horizon,The Drake Collection, and the fact that multi plats usually play quite well on it.

Yeah, MS has more this holiday, PS4 had 2 big ones at the beginning of the yr and will have more in early 2016. MS may have too many at once this yr, competing against huge games like MGS5, F4 and Battlefront.

It's back and forth like always.

And yes. I think BC is overrated. I said it. Most ppl want it as an option and then don't use it, or very sparingly.

ThePope3957d ago

What? Better games? Like The Last Guardian, Persona 5, Street Fighter 5, Uncharted 4, Horizon,The Drake Collection, and the fact that multi plats usually play quite well on it.

3 of the 6 games you are so proud of you won't see until 2016, 2 others have no release date at all and 1 is a remaster (which people on N4G bashed the X1 when MCC came out) so your better games argument is weak at best.

I personally don't care about BC I can't finish the games I have now. Speaking of which The Witcher 3 does have an ending right?? Lol. But BC is and has been since the early days of Xbox voice the #1 most requested feature.

Don't down play it because in truth you don't know how many people will,use it as it's not out yet. Smarten up. Do you know why we've seen so many remasters? Because last gen had arguably the best games ever made. This feature allows X1 owners to relive those experiences.

Sorry PS4 owners. You lost this one. But hey take solace in the fact that the PS4 is selling better. I mean that's as fun to play as all the BC games....I'm sure.

Rachel_Alucard3956d ago

@Thepope

Thanks for putting on your soldier gear everyday and contributing to the eternal console war. I'm sure you'll get promoted to seargent by General Phil one day.

frostypants3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

MS introduces a 360 emulator and digital downloads for it (NOT BC, that's like saying yout PC has NES BC because you have a Nintendo emulator) and...what? What interesting new IPs? The One is doing some things right but they are hardly winning in terms of compelling upcoming titles.

nitus103956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

From the article it mentions Microsoft's "ridiculous DRM and online-only policy" which lost them a huge amount of sales.

Secondly the article mentions the proposed backwards compatibility which "is something that gamers would almost always entertain as a value-added feature."

Thirdly the article mentions in passing that "the HoloLens demo was quite promising."

Well that pretty much sums up the article. Oh and Phil Spencer from Microsoft also gets a cameo mention. Oh and don't forget (drum roll) "Microsoft Strikes Back" - Sigh!

Yahdaree3956d ago

Microsoft had a decent presentation. However, Playstation, once again, has one-upped them. This generation MS seems to be a few steps behind Sony as far as PR goes, leading to a huge mind share lead for Sony. It was the best Xbox E3 in years but that doesn't say much..

kenshiro1003956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

Lol, a strikeback. What, with games we've heard about already? BC that only a small amount of people will probably use?

This article is terrible.

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Rookie_Monster3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

They sure did. Lead by Lord Darth Spencer and his Death Star, Backward Compatibility. It had since sent the Sony Rebels scrambling. Many of the 80 plus millions xbox 360 can and will migrate over to the dark side. They just can't resist.

MS will surely capitalized on this and with an unmatched Fall releases of AAA games that are months away rather than light years away from releasing, that their opponents simply have no answer for (sorry, but 2 PS3 Jap niche ports in Persona 5 and Godzilla and another 2 HD remasters that don't even have MP) isn't competing with the XB1 Fall lineup regardless of how people of certain forums are proclaiming it.

Edit @spaceranger below

"No need to say the competition has no games just because they don't let you shoot everything in the game of its not a yearly racer."

Hey, I'll take a yearly racer (actually bi yearly as Horizon and Motorsport are two different type of racers and developed by different studios) than waiting 5 years for a prolog and then 2 more years for a proper AAA racer on another console. ;)

Also, speaking of shooters, Since Sony doesn't have a Killzone and Uncharted 4 is delayed, all they did was buying exclusice marketing deals for timed DLCs for Destiny, COD, and Battlefront...all of which, you know, have guns and shooting. ;)

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SpaceRanger3957d ago

The no games argument again lol
C'mon Rookie_Monster, you know there's plenty of games coming out for both. No need to say the competition has no games just because they don't let you shoot everything in the game of its not a yearly racer.

Xavior_Reigns3957d ago

Not sure Phil and MS would like being compared to Sith Lords who ultimately lost and got their Death Star blown up twice...

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DXPS33957d ago

Xbox brand,It's always Halo,Gears,Fable(what a piss poor franchise),Forza plus 1 more exclusive which in this case is Tomb Raider and it's just exclusive to Xbox in 2015.Lets talk about Microsoft wining formula more;wipe the dust out of your machine 9 months of the year and put something innovative and brand new exclusive(yes I'm being sarcastic) in it in the last 3 months of the year.And about these exclusives;When it comes to milking Microsoft is up there with Ubisoft and Activision.Hell they milk the shit out of their franchises until original developers run away like what happened to Halo and Gears series.I'm sure by the year 2020 we would see Halo 10,Gears 7,Forza 12 or sth.It's a sure thing
and about another MS invention the backward compatibility.Sony had it early on PS3.Did it help them to sell more units than xbox 360 back then because of this?No.Why?Because it can't.You want to play your old games you can stick to your previous gen console and live in the past.So have fun with this useless option as much as you're having fun with Kinect.

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Onig3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

No,they have the option to bc (plus next gen titles) you don't. So have fun paying again with ps now end of the story

Antwan3k3956d ago

Two comments:

1). Halo 5 is milking a franchise but Killzone: Shadowfall isn't?.. Gears 4 is milking a franchise but Uncharted 4 isn't?.. Forza 6 is milking a franchise but Gran Turismo 7 isn't?.. Fable Legends is milking the franchise but God of War 4 isn't?..

Sony fanboys like to rattle off the "teh Halo, Forza, Gears!!1!" when it comes to Microsoft's tentpole franchises yet totally ignore the obvious hypocrisy when they get excited Sony's tentpole franchises.. stop with the hypocrisy dude.. Xbox fans have the right to get excited about another round of Halo, Forza, Gears, and Fable just like PlayStation fans have the right to get excited about future Killzone, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, and God of War titles..

2. Yes, PS3 backwards compatibility helped. It certainly helped to keep a decent portion of the PS2 community from totally jumping ship after the disastrous PS3 reveal. Backwards Compatibility was one of the only bright spots with that console launch.. without it, it would have been a bloodbath for much longer than it was, imo.. I personally held off on getting a 360 because of the PS3's BC with PS2 games.. my PS2 library was a strong reason for me to stay with the Sony console.. The same can be said for the Xbox One.. 360 owners have little reason to jump ship to the PS4 at this point thanks to Xbox One backwards compatibility.. and that's pretty much the entire point..

DXPS33955d ago

***to Antwan3k***
sorry I couldn't reply directly to your post so I just replied to my earlier post

yes Sony used to milk their franchises back in early 2000s but not as much as Microsoft do nowadays.Well lets talk about the games you mentioned separately.

1)Gran Turismo versus Forza - In 18 years,14 Gran Turismo games have been released on home PlayStation consoles which is milking sure but only 4 of them were published for PS3 and out of these 4 only 2 of them were major releases.Now lets talk about Forza.In 10 years Microsoft published 8 Forza games(including 2015 FM6).3 of these games were released between 2005-2010 while 5 Forza games is released between 2011-2015 considering this year's FM6.This means a Forza game per year.So in the first 2 years of xbox one's life cycle Forza has the same major releases as GT had on PS3's 8 year life cycle.That's as much milking as Call of duty and Assassin's Creed.

2)Halo versus Killzone - Halo has 8 major releases on xbox consoles since 2001,three of them between 2001-2009 and 5 of them since 2009 and I'm not even counting the collection,anniversary and Halo: Spartan.As with Killzone we only had 4 since 2004 besides there's a very good chance we won't see another Killzone in the future(thank god) unlike Halo.I understand Halo means much more to Xbox fans compared to Killzone to us sony fans but again it shows Microsoft recent trend of milking their franchises 2009 onward.

3)Gears 4 versus Uncharted 4 - Uncharted is definitely a flagship franchise for Sony yet Uncharted 4 will conclude the series;is it going to be the same thing with Gears?No.Hell Microsoft found another studio just to milk it as much as possible same as Halo.So we have 2 very different approaches here between sony and microsoft.

4)Fable to God of war - As we all know God of war series had 2 major releases on both PS2 and PS3 in 11 years while Fable had 3 major releases and 2 spin offs only on Xbox 360 which is a lot considering the Fable franchise is on a downhill.

So basically Microsoft's trend in milking has become more aggressive since 2009 and the only studio doing bold moves for Microsoft is Remedy and they're not even owned by Microsoft while on Sony's frontier Media Molecule,Guerrilla Games,Evolution Studios,Naughty Dog and ... are doing new IPs on sony consoles.In 14 years Evolution did 3 franchises on PlayStation,how about Turn 10 for xbox?one.That's what I'm talking about.With Backward compatibility and Halo X,Forza Y and Gears Z Microsoft will probably absorb a major chunk of previous xbox console owners but not PlayStation owners.They need 5 studios like Remedy and a trend to make and care for new IPs.Hell if they release one new IP like Alan Wake and Quantum Break every year I would buy a Xbox One ASAP and those games don't need to be critic approved "AAA" bullshit just something adding fresh blood to the console as much as games like Heavy Rain,Demon's Souls,The Last of Us,Infamous,Bloodborne,The Order,Horizon and The Last Guardian did and will do for PlayStation.

Sheikh Yerbouti3955d ago (Edited 3955d ago )

Kids keep your consoles.

I still play my PS3 and PS2. So I think this fuss over BC and PSNow is funny. But anyone can go to Disc Replay and get old games for most any system. And the console too if they don't have it. There are cheaper options other than PSNow. Surer ways than BC.

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pyroxxx3957d ago

The horse is dead,.. move on Jimmy

SpaceRanger3957d ago

BC is a good feature, but in no way a huge game changer. If it was then people would have been rushing out to buy a Wii U from the start, considering it plays every Wii game from last gen.

Backwards compatibility right out of the box, runs games sub-HD to HD, is less expensive, free online, TV integration, it relies on its overused franchises, motion controls...I'm sure a lot of people would find this to be a good deal from all these feature and more.

NeoGamer2323957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

I agree. BC isn't a game changer. But, it is a nod to fans of the 360. Which will help them sell consoles to existing gamers who still have a 360.

Also, I have X1s and 360s. Now I can eliminate some 360s because of BC. And I don't have to replace any 360s that eventually die. While that isn't a game changer it is more like a loyalty program.

What does matter is games... Disgaea, Forza Motorsports, Until Dawn, Halo Guardians, Persona, Fable Legends, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Rare Replay, and Gears of War Ultimate, etc.

Then, going forward, more games... Scalebound, Last Guardian, Crackdown, Horizon, Quantum Break, FF VII Remake, Sea of Thieves, Dreams, etc.

Gamers are winning because there are a lot of great games now and in the future on both major platforms.

PhucSeeker3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

To be fair, who plays Wii games ? Of course, there're some decent Wii titles, but no way can they outnumber X360's or Ps3's.

medman3957d ago

Microsoft had a great E3 conference....then Sony upped the ante and blew the roof of the convention center.

NeoGamer2323957d ago

How did they do that? By showing what they are still delivering in 2015? Everything they did that was so great does not have a ship date. Not a single game that gamers talk about has a specific ship date yet...

FF VII - 2016-ish
Dreams - No Date
Horizon - No Date
Last Guardian 2016-ish
No Man's Sky - No Man's Date

They blew the doors off with trailers and gameplay from vaporware.

TheGreatGamer3957d ago

Don't forget Shenmue 3 won't be finished until MAYBE end of 2017 if not 2018.

Ravenheartzero3957d ago (Edited 3957d ago )

They didn't need a release date. They surprised us and brought a lot of attention to their conference and Playstation which is exactly what E3 is about.

We have known about Quantum break, crackdown and scalebound for over a year now and they still have no release dates either. Shall we ignore them? By the time they release we will more than likely known about them for 2 years.

SoapShoes3957d ago

And why exactly should Sony put the spotlight on games we already have seen and know are coming out? Persona 5, Disgaea 5, No Man's Sky, Until Dawn, Dragon Quest Heroes, Godzilla, Uncharted Collection, Tales of Zestiria, , Planetside 2, and lots more just this year. We already have seen lots of them and would make for a dull show.

styferion3956d ago

smh.. Sony confirmed 3 mythical games and now people bicker the only ones that count are those released the same year.
I swear these people would come up with another excuse if next year's Sony conference filled with 2016 games, maybe something along the lines of 'show us some new games' or 'it's only new gameplay video' or something.

MysticStrummer3956d ago

From the official E3 page :

"For three exciting days, leading-edge companies, groundbreaking new technologies and never-before-seen products will be showcased."

E3 isn't meant to be a commercial for things that will be released in a few months, or things that have been known about for awhile and seen repeatedly.

Sony won by debuting three huge titles that many people thought would never happen. They also debuted some stunning new gameplay from Uncharted 4, an inarguably huge title. No Man's Sky is one of the most talked about games, and it's little slice of gameplay was a low point in Sony's press conference. That's how good their show was.

NeoGamer2323956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

@MysticStrummer
If E3 is all about showing vaporware then count me out going forward. Honestly, people can put anything into their presentations then and it means absolutely nothing.

Last year MS showed Phantom Dust, Scalebound, and Crackdown trailers and Sony fans said they were vaporware... Sony shows vaporware this year and gets marks as brilliant. Honestly, it is really clear now... Whatever Sony does is automatically good and receives very limited criticism... If MS does it the microscope gets put on it.

N4G has simply been filled with a rash of articles doing their best to discredit the BC announcement from MS and full of articles about how great Sony is for showing off a whole bunch of stuff that could be anywhere from 6 months to 7 years (That's how long since Last Guardian showed first at E3) from now.

MysticStrummer3956d ago

If you want to redefine "vaporware" count me out from continuing this discussion. If someone last year called those games vaporware, then you should have had the same response. You're basically saying it's ok for you to say it even though you didn't like someone else saying it. Peace and good gaming.

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Letthewookiewin3957d ago

@Medman,Raven and Soap - you guys hit the nail on the head. It's actually gotten worse with some of the fanatics around here. After MS failed to 'Win" by the landslide that Xbots were expecting they are resorting to articles about why X1 is better than PS4 and forming a pack of Sony resistance in each comment section on multiple web sites hoping they can convince people to by an Xbox, almost like it's their last stand.

DDOS-DelDaemonicOSes3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

You're BACKWARDS (thus the inevitable disagrees). Sony fans have went around to multiple sites this gen basically claiming "Xbox sucks", and they did that because Sony has been making their last stand, and practically everyone knows that stand is PlayStation.

PlayStation is now practically everything to Sony, and Sony fans are so dire that they will insult what's best for gaming as they slight BC, they will accept PS3 remasters as what headlines E3, they will pay more for Sony remasters, they will forgive delay after delay, they will accept promises of games YEARS away (even after they took over 7 to release TLG after its reveal), and they will accept many other things that are fLAMER, such as daily "trips to the station for charges", AKA being put on a leash.

There has definitely been a force from Sony fans this gen trying their worst to slight Ms for that Sony wins their last stand... everyone should try reversing the logic of all Ms naysayers for determining what's closest to the truth...

For example, Letthewookiewin explained, "forming a pack of <Ms> resistance in each comment section on multiple web sites hoping they can convince people to" buy a PS4, for that Sony doesn't go bankrupt and lose their last stand.

Obviously, if anyone is making "a last stand", it is Sony... Ms can lose 5+ gens and still be in the game... Sony can't. "#FACT!"

I think Sony's success this gen does give them a bit more staying power than before, though I still don't think it is enough.

Microsoft is practically guaranteed to win this gen as far as "platform"... all the XO's software improvements (such as unifying OS, Universal Apps, DX12, holographic support, VR support, Cortana integration, cloud tech, etc.) this gen transfer to faster hardware with all the benefits retained, unlike last-gen.

I think Sony has already lost, though you won't notice it (yet) until Microsoft releases upcoming features and a faster XO.

Edit: Here's another example of Sony fans being BACKWARDS.

xPiffGaming wrote, "Yea Microsoft had an amazing e3 halo 5 and tomb raider. :yawn: "

As if those are yawners and not 2 of the PS4's main titles for the "rest" of the year, Tearaway Unfolded and No Man's Sky, and the PS4 OS itself is a year-round yawner compared with XO's new OS that has Cortana AI built-in... Sony fans always appear to be projecting whatever is really the problem with their choices.

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Isn't it past time to make a new FF MMO?

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Interesting. I will try the base game free trial when it comes out. I heard you can try the it as long as you want with Lvl 70 cap.

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Soon with lvl 80 as Shadowbringers (3rd expansion pack) will be in the free trial.

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I wish this was an update for FF16.

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Hell no! Let that garbage DMC game die.