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Why Backwards Compatibility Isn't That Necessary

Currently, if you’re an Xbox preview member, you can start trying out the Xbox One’s backwards compatibility. We’ve all heard of this and the fact that Microsoft announced backwards compatibility for the Xbox One, which will support around 100 Xbox 360 games (it starts at the end of the year, 2 years too late guys…). This is great and all, but it isn’t necessary, or even any kind of a requirement for the vast majority of gamers. Consider this last sentence a trigger warning for some of you.

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Sonyslave33981d ago ShowReplies(16)
N0TaB0T3981d ago

Why is having access to more games bad?

Ricegum3981d ago

This ^

Xbox fans moaning about Sony fans downplaying the feature, Sony fans moaning about Xbox fans completely over hyping it.

Backwards compatibility is a good feature. Game changer? Not at all. Just a good feature.

Professor_K3981d ago

like uncharted and horizon right?

let people hype what they want

Vegamyster3981d ago

I disagree, i game primarily on a PC and every large Steam sale i always find a game i missed the first time around that i want to give a try, Xone's BC is different since not every game is supported and its emulated but it's still a great option to have.

SonofGod3981d ago Show
marlinfan103981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

What do you or anyone else care what people hype up? It's pretty sad when you guys feel the need to downplay something because someone might be excited about it

ShinMaster3980d ago (Edited 3980d ago )

BC is great.
But it's overhyped in that Xbox fanboys keep bringing it up as if it was a new game to downplay the game announcements from Sony's conference.
Expected consequences.

@ Dr_K

Uncharted 4 and Horizon are new GAMES.
Backwards compatibility is a feature.

NatFanBoyRestricted3980d ago

Shinmaster,there will always be new games. Always, get over it, but getting hardware to do different things then intended is different. Allot of playstations player base on this site will downplay the shit outta BC because it's related to Xbox. There's more Ps people here then Xbox people. The more people try to downplay something small, simple, and free is just starting to look stupid know. Even over hyping it. This community is something else

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Raf1k13981d ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I saw on the MS conference it seemed that BC on the Xbox One was for digital games so discs won't work.

MSpence5163981d ago

Disc games do work. The One installs the game in order to run the emulator. Whether you need the disc after the initial install, I don't know, but would assume so.

rainslacker3981d ago

For supported games, when you insert the disc, it will download the digital version from XBL.

You'll still need the disc in the drive for authentication purposes. If you brought the game digitally though it should work the same as on the 360.

Vystrel3980d ago

I was hoping disc games would only be a local install but youll need to download the entire digital version and leave the disc in. Other than my slow internet and need for a large external drive I am still looking forward to it.

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Sly-Lupin3980d ago

Because of idiot fanboys who will bend over backwards to defend the worst kind of nonsense.

I particularly enjoy the nonsensical argument that, "X is irrelevant, because I don't like X."

See it from idiots all the ****ing time; and it feels like there are more and more idiots in the gaming community now than ever before.

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Neonridr3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Of course it isn't necessary. But it is a welcome addition.

If I surveyed a bunch of PS4 gamers and asked if they would rather have a PS4 or a PS4 that played PS3 games, what do you think the voting results would be? Are you telling me that everyone would be like.. "Oh I bought a PS4 to play PS4 games, I never want to revisit any old games on this new console ever again"..

??

I can't understand why so many people are trying their darndest to put this thing down. Nintendo has always been praised at their ability to offer backwards compatibility with their previous systems. It's not required no, but some people spend a lot on their game collection, and it's nice to not have to keep multiple consoles hooked up to the TV just so that if you can revisit an older game.

People say that this feature would have only been beneficial at the launch of the console. Consider for a moment that there are still a lot of people that haven't jumped on the next gen train. Last I checked there were over 150 million combined consoles sold from Microsoft and Sony during the Xbox 360 and PS3 generation. Last I checked there was only about 35 million or so PS4 and Xbox One owners..

That means there are millions of people that have not made the transition yet. This feature could be something as a bonus to entice 360 owners to ditch that console and make the upgrade.

Now we know that not all titles will be supported so it's not like Nintendo's backwards compatibility, but you can guarantee that any first and second party titles will work along with select third party games so there's a good chance a chunk of their library will be supported eventually.

LifeInNZ3981d ago

The first line of defense (or attack) when a competitor offers something you don't is to downplay it. However, the only way BC should be seen as a bad thing is if they had to take away other features to make it happen.

I've yet to see a single argument that makes me think BC is a bad idea/feature.

MysticStrummer3981d ago

"I've yet to see a single argument that makes me think BC is a bad idea/feature."

I've yet to see anyone claim it's a bad idea/feature, just that it's overrated as a system seller or E3 conference winner.

WelkinCole3981d ago

Off course many PS4 gamers would want BC for PS3 if it was an option. But for an added cost most likely all of them would say no.

Its a nice feature but it is not the second coming of Christ like many xbox gamers are claiming.

35 million in the first two years are generally the hard core gamers with a collection. Not the casuals that jump in later that generally don' have much of a collection to begin with.

Even then, most of them will jump in when there is already a back log of current gen games that many would prefer to play than replay any old games they might still have.

Its really is in the early days of a new gen that BC would matter a bit because there are still great previous gen games release with little to no new current games available.

Some xbox fans are expecting BC to turn the tide but they are solely mistaken. Just like they were with more markets for x1 or DX12 etc.

Neonridr3980d ago

you said it there though, you would want it, but not for an added cost.

which is exactly what MS delivered.

NatFanBoyRestricted3980d ago

Welkin, where exactly are the Xbox gamers claiming this to be as big as you describe?

WelkinCole3980d ago

Neodir. The point is it is not a must have feature that PS fans would pay for.

Yes x1 fans will not pay for it and that's why it was a great feature when announced. However it is clear you and I both agree it is not going to win MS the console.

@macxb1. Go into any Who won E3 articles and you will find plent of them there.

rainslacker3981d ago

I'm sure a majority would say they wanted the feature. Particularly if it were at no added cost and if it didn't take away anything from available resources and all that.

If they had to pay for it though, I think the number would go down significantly.

But, I have seen plenty of people say that they buy a current gen console to play current gen games, and that they don't care about BC. This has been said countless times before there was BC on either console.

Sly-Lupin3980d ago

Forget PS3 b/c for a moment.

What about PS1 and PS2 b/c?
There's ZERO excuse for its absence from the PS4.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio18d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing18d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9218d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit18d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing18d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9218d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay20d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn221d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn220d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown20d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay20d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay20d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac20d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger21d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300021d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde21d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde20d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7522d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_19d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.