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Mass Effect GamePlay Comparison Between Xbox One & 360

Just a quick comparison between the same segment of the game running on both Xbox One with BC and the original Xbox 360.

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green3988d ago

Wait!!! so BC on the Xbox One actually improves performance the performance? Better texture loading and no frae rate drops.

Seems this christmas, i will be finishing the game for the sixth time.

christocolus3988d ago

The power of software emulation. You got to hand it to MS. They are skilled at stuff like this.

SonofGod3988d ago

I want to know how they did it. This shouldn't even be possible. Looks more like forward compatibility!

4Sh0w3988d ago

They look damm near identical but X1 version performs slightly better= Hell yeah I'll take.

I'm moving forward with next gen games but please give me
Mass Effect 1, 2, 3
Crackdown
Gears 2 and 3(I'll buy the remaster)
Splinter Cell Conviction
Batman AA
Ninja Gaiden2
Bioshock
&
I already got the MCC

-That's about all I need for my nostalgia fix.

Kingdomcome2473988d ago

Please everyone, "Would you kindly", vote for the Bioshock games. 1 and Infinite preferably. :P

XanderZane3988d ago

Yes, yes... I wonder what else this emulator can do and what will have once the O/S switches to Win10/DX12 on the XB1. Hhhmm....

Kavorklestein3988d ago

First off, THANK YOU MICROSOFT!
I was playing Mass Effect on XB1 yesterday, and the graphics and background/rocks/surfaces actually glitch on certain planets in the Mako... but only when driving full speed.
I was on Edolus, and I haven't seen it on any other planets yet, but yes, overall the performance on the Xbox one is a lot better in most situations, and the colors are deeper and more rich.
I also noticed some graphics or assets are sharper, and some are slightly sub par.

For example, the trees look fuller and more clear on the Citadel, and lighting seems more vibrant in MOST situations.
In fact, The only real sub standard effect I saw was the one while driving full speed in the Mako.

Overall, this emulator is sweet and works like a charm. (:

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gedapeleda3987d ago

E3 demo looked like it had frame rate issues, however this seems better.

@4show
I bet EA will announce ME trilogy remaster sooner or latter

4Sh0w3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

shloobmm3, yeah I hear all the time Lost Odyssey was great but its too much like a jrpg for me and jrpg's are not my cup of tea at all.

gedapeleda, the ME games on 360 looked fine, I'd be OK with them just making ME 2, and 3 available through BC now, doesn't really need a remaster imo.

blackout3987d ago

They are not lying when they say that they have the best engineers in the world. Everyone one was saying BC on next gen was impossible, well congratulations Microsoft for shutting up the non believers.

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Christopher3988d ago

Are both editions digital? If 360 version is on disc, then it being on the HDD on the XBO alone explains the gains in load times and the like.

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Death3988d ago

The games are recognized by the Xbox One and then downloaded and installed to the consoles HDD. They are not played from the disc, it's only used for game verification.

Christopher3988d ago

@Death: I think you misread my point. I know the XBO is digital, but in the comparison, is the 360 version being played from a digital copy as well or off the disc. Reading from the disc will result in those slower load times that are shown n the video.

This has nothing to do with whether or not it's digital on XBO. That's given.

JasonKCK3988d ago (Edited 3988d ago )

The digital 360 version would have better load times over disc. The digital version does nothing for texture pop in, I think that's the X1 hardware.

IDK I can't really test this. I could test 360 vs PC which would be pointless.

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KUV19773988d ago

Well, actually it was to be expected that slowdowns due to hardware-performance on X360 would not be emulated too. With more resources the same things generally perform better. It's undoubtedly great but hardly a surprise.

starchild3988d ago (Edited 3988d ago )

Not necessarily. Emulation is never anywhere near as efficient as the original hardware the software was designed to run on. It requires a significantly more powerful machine to achieve the same thing through emulation. It's not a given.

KUV19773988d ago

Sure, if the architecture is vastly different. But the technical difference between hard disk drives, for example, is minimal. The new one is faster, there is more cache, it loads textures faster. There is hardly any magic there. If the One would be slightly faster than the 360 I would agree, but the One is several times as fast as the 360 with somewhat similar architecture, so it would be expected to not have that much loss in resources due to emulation.

I am not saying this feature is bad or useless, the opposite in fact: it's great. But when getting the feature, it is not the super unexpected surprise to get better performance. Every console emulator (before PS3) on PC has better loading times, better framerate, mostly even better resolution than the console counterpart, because: more power available. In this case MS themselves created an emulator on a system where they knew everything about the previous and current hardware, which, again, aren't as different as PS3 and PS4 are, for example. So if the One would have run the 360 games at the same or worse quality, now THAT would have been the real surprise.

Death3988d ago

@KUV,

You are misinformed. Both the PS3 and 360 are PowerPC based consoles. You are being confused by Sony's marketing department. The Cell and Xenon are both RISC based unlike the new consoles which are both x86 based.

Team_Litt3988d ago

Schooled. Be thankful for the free education

KUV19773988d ago (Edited 3988d ago )

Yeah, sure, you got me.

I guess the hard discs in both consoles are also vastly different technologies, making it a miracle again that the one loads textures faster than the 360 did, as was part of my argument.

Also the one does not have a multiple of the resources the 360 has, again making it close to a miracle the One has better performance.

While the games for the X-One are based on DirextX, the games on the X360 are based on a vastly different API, called DirectX.

Also a multitude of developers back then came out and told all of us, that the X360 is easier to develop for, because it isn't as oulandish of an architecture than the PS3. All lies obviously, perpetuated by the SONY marketing machine, even the ones from third party developers.

I never said they use the same architecture, just that both MS-consoles weren't as different as SONYs which, no matter how you turn it, is not wrong. So maybe 'somewhat similar architecture' was a bit unfortunate of a line that you mistook as 'they are the same architecture'. But please, go ahead, and refute my other points.

Is it not more likely that better hardware causes better performance than it is likely that Microsoft performed a freakin' miracle?

If SONY created a PS3-emulator which obviously they are not going to do, I would also expect it to run my PS3 games better than the PS3 itself did. Even though the architectures are different: the hard discs are faster, the CPU is faster, the GPU is faster, there is tons of more RAM, the developer knows everything about its hard- an software.

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starchild3988d ago

Does it add any additional anti-aliasing? It seems they could apply some post process anti-aliasing fairly easily and it would improve the look of the games quite a bit.

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TrollHard4Life3988d ago

I don't see it, It's a bit clearer. I wouldn't call it amazing though. The hardware has 8 years between each other for a slight enhancement.

Letthewookiewin3988d ago

Ya looks like I'll be trying to find the Mass Trilogy set at my GameStop. I didn't know it was going to improve frame rate. That is huge for me.

medman3988d ago

I don't understand people...I still have my 360 and ps3, with a large gaming library. I don't go back and play games I've played multiple times already, my backlog of current games is more than enough to keep me busy. I think it's a small percentage of people that actually revisit games in this way. I love the Mass Effect series, and it's my favorite trilogy in gaming history, but I have less than zero desire to replay the games in the trilogy again. Give me Mass Effect Andromeda and get out of my way. I'll let Shepard and crew live in my memory.

JeffGUNZ3988d ago

So you have no desire to replay old games but still keep old systems and old games?

Kingdomcome2473988d ago

Thats my question as well, JeffGUNZ.

KiwiViper853988d ago

I hope they BC Deus Ex: Human Revolution, as I have never played it and would like to before Mankind Divided comes out.

And I don't even have to pull my 360 out of the wardrobe...

Condemnedman3987d ago

I have games I have not started or finished on the 360 playing them on the x1 is a brilliant idea. Props to Ms for not trying to charge for this.

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Perjoss3988d ago (Edited 3988d ago )

Impressive! does anyone know if the 360 version that was tested in the video was installed to the HDD or running from the disc? I'm liking the sound of this as I have so many 360 games I could literally make my own Throne of Games http://tinyurl.com/oavz7w4

also...

Mass Effect <3

someOnecalled3988d ago

we dont want BC i rather pay for psnow. long live sony they knows whats best for me.

gninja923988d ago

if the mass effect mako at full speed, looks bad that sounds like just about any driving games may not work well.
But i just really need
NFS: Most Wanted 2005, to be added after all it was a launch title and a very popular one.

slasaru013987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

I think, if they have some time, they could force some additional AA, as regular emulators do. Can they?

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TheGreatGamer3988d ago

Wow I wasn't expecting any improvements alongside the almost 1:1 standard emulation, seriously got to give a shout to the engineers at Microsoft for their work

TrollHard4Life3988d ago

You can't be serious, What is 35 people seeing that I am not. It hardly enhanced the game.

Death3988d ago

When you compare it to paying for streamed games at reduced resolution with added lag it seems pretty impressive.

Dizzydrifter13988d ago

It's free if you have a disk or previously purchased it digitally so there's that....

NeoGamer2323988d ago

I don't think anyone is saying that the games are being essentially re-mastered by the X1...

I think what people are saying is that when you see most attempts at software BC, you typically never see any performance improvements. But what we are seeing with X1 BC is that it is improving load times and the ability to hold better frame rates than a real 360. I think this is the first time I have seen software BC done so well.

BTW: This is not an emulator. This is probably a virtualization. When I boot BC games on my X1, I see an X360 startup splash and it logs into 360. Every single BC game has an extra 250 MB reservation file for it. This is probably configuration or an image of the BC VM.

gninja923988d ago

people love ot hype and praise when it comes from official sources, and they love to spend money they dont have on things they dont need, so how dare you sir "TrollHard4Life" tell us that there is no difference shame on you and your name

DragonbornZ3987d ago

Well you do troll hard for life.

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vikingland13988d ago (Edited 3988d ago )

I wonder if it will help RDR & Skyrim when they get BC? Still impressive.

Letthewookiewin3988d ago

That would be cool I have Skyrim digitally along with Tales of Vesperia. Wow and here I thought I didn't care about BC. Egg on my face.

Sokol3988d ago

Looks identical, well done. Excellent feature.

Grap3988d ago

more like XONE is better.

Sokol3988d ago

In which sense is it better? judging from the above video they are running and looking perfectly identical which is a superb work on Microsoft part.

Maybe if we could see some gameplay footage to get a better idea?

zidane13413988d ago

At soil:it's betterbecause there's less pop in and better frame rate on Xbox one.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot21d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle20d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7720d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7725d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300026d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7225d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit25d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania26d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit25d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0725d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr26d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box26d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr25d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9526d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7225d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--25d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7225d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket25d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm25d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde25d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9225d ago (Edited 25d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_26d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted26d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit25d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9225d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT26d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers26d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14925d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0725d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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