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The Four Worst Things about E3 2015

Daniel of PopCults.com writes "Although it’s been going on since Sunday night, Day 1 of E3 2015 is over. We’ve already seen all the press conferences and had all the biggest reveals. All but the sneakiest of announcements have been made. Now, its time for the press to get their hands on the product and the retailers to decide if they want to buy the product. Maybe, if we’re lucky, some smart-ass developer will announce some new title and knock all the press out of their scheduled routines.

Given that I cannot attend E3 this year, the news cycle is over for me. And since it’s over for me, then it’s time for a list. You people like lists, right? So here are the four worst things about E3 2015."

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NovusTerminus3983d ago (Edited 3983d ago )

That is the creator of Drakengard and Nier, Taro Yoko, who doesn't show his face as far as I can tell, so he dressed as a character from Nier. he has used a puppet before, he hates doing interviews and press events.

DarkOcelet3983d ago

So he is basically sort of the Sia of gaming?

I dont know what to call him. But honestly i dont care because NIER 2 IS COMING!

NovusTerminus3983d ago

Something like that.

With his stated hatred of interviews and such, I was floored when they called him on stage.

I've loved his work, Nier was great and teaming up with Platinum is a dream!

Relientk773983d ago

I kinda thought him in that mask, was a bit creepy

gangsta_red3983d ago

"Then it showed us a tiny teaser (with almost no information to go along with it) for a game that the fanboys won’t shut up about. Then they ask us to give them money if they want a game to be made! What are you doing, Sony?"

"Boy shows up. Dog-thing shows up. Boy yells at dog-thing. Dog-thing jumps. Boy falls in slow motion. Dog-thing catches him. Boy yells at dog-thing again. Boy falls in slow motion again. Dog-thing catches boy again. They climb things. C’mon now!"

LMAO! Exactly! I couldn't get excited about any of those two things.

For a game that has been in development hell for 10 years what they showed was mediocre. And I think a lot of people are putting too much on Shenmue, the game was okay back on Dreamcast/Xbox but I think people are forgetting just how boring the game was.

And Nintendo basically just advertised the death of the WiiU with their conference. To showcase almost nothing for WiiU just proves that they have moved on to whatever the NX will be.

DarkOcelet3983d ago

Nier had a cult following my friend. You don't understand, i think the message was obvious from Square Enix, they are saying 'We Are Listening'. That alone if enough from me.

If you have played ICO and SOTC then you will know why we are hyped for this experience. Its not just a game, it will be a story you wont forget. And its not a Dog-thing, its more of a Cat-thing.

plmkoh3983d ago

Lol the guys downplaying The Last Guardian are really doing themselves a big disfavour. Perhaps they're minds were too busy being in the dumps to even grasp the idea that Fumito Ueda doesn't need to prove himself with his simple by powerful games but he's done exactly that twice before. Time after time he's made "Boy and Dog thing"-esque games and time after time he's been bombarded with praise for it.

I don't even like the Team Ico games, but they consistently rank in the top 100 games of all time for a reason. I guess these petty cynics are just being cynical for the sake of it because they can't live with the fact that they have to agree with the majority.

And Square Enix conference being crap? How cares, publishers don't even need a good conference because they throw their games across all the major platform conferences. If anything the biggest take-away from SE is that they've been shit for the past 8 years, but they're finally ready to start winning you over.

gangsta_red3982d ago

I like Nier, I'm excited for that game because it's also Platinum.

I played ICO and SOTC. I enjoyed both those games but not to the point where I am waiting on pins and needles for 9+ years for LG to drop. What they showed wasn't compelling and wasn't worth the long wait.

IamTylerDurden13983d ago (Edited 3983d ago )

Ur so eloquent Mr. Gansta red sir, i'd love to hear your rendition of Journey next - "Weird floaty thing flies around. Floaty thing meets friend, friend and floaty thing fly around, they climb a mountain. Come on!"

Let's do the varied gameplay of Crackdown. "Hero kills gang. Hero upgrades. Hero climbs stuff, hero upgrades. Hero kills gang again, hero upgrades. Hero climbs stuff. Come on!"

Shadow of the Colossus. "Boy shows up. Monster shows up. Boy climbs monster, boy kills monster. Boy finds new monster, boy kills monster. Boy finds new monster. Boy climbs stuff. Come on!"

"LMAO wow those games must suck lol, i can't get excited about those 3 games!!!"

"I think ppl are forgetting how mediocre the last Crackdown and gears were, and how generic and boring they were."

"ps Nintendo sux, by dissing Nintendo and Sony i can secretly promote ms and the xbone."

In all honesty the worst thing i saw was gears 4, it was surprising that they were allowed to show it. The difference between Epic Games and a newb studio who has never developed a game b4 is obviously immense. This did not look like Epic's gears games, epic always had cutting edge grfx and nobody could outdo them in brutal violence and superb combat - DOOM was 1000x more brutal, violent, and had far superior gunplay.

I was a little upset they didn't show Morpheus vr more.

Upset we didn't see Bend's rumored 3rd person Resistance.

Fable, it is sad what the once geat franchise has become. 4v1 mp only, a far cry from goty FABLE 2. Did they call Fable legends a free to play or did i hear wrong? If so wth ru doing ms and Lionhead.

gangsta_red3982d ago

I don't think you realize that I am quoting the actual article. Those quotes are not from me Mr. TylerDurden, I didn't write them I just agree with what was said in the article.

Spotie3982d ago

First: Can't show too much of a game like TLG. Can't give away what it's about, and I'm perfectly fine with not knowing a whole lot about the next game from a developer that has only exceeded my expectations. Plenty of other games out there for you that'll spoil the whole damn game for you, if that's what you want. In the theater where I watched the Sony conference, we were on the edge of our seats for the majority of the demo. We didn't think it was that mediocre.

As for Shenmue, it apparently wasn't that boring, as it warranted a sequel, and plenty of people have been wanting a third title for ages. Maybe you've forgotten how not everybody shares your opinion.

gangsta_red3982d ago

"Can't show too much of a game like TLG. Can't give away what it's about,"

I played ICO and I played SotC and story wasn't really the big points of those games, it was environments and puzzles. So what they showed in that game there is a pretty good chance that is what the game is going to entail mostly.

"We didn't think it was that mediocre."

Great for you and the people on the edge of their seats, sadly I wasn't but I never stated or said that everyone should share my opinion. You seem to have forgotten the same when you constantly state that gamers don't want BC in many of your own posts. Or have you forgotten that too.

"it apparently wasn't that boring, as it warranted a sequel,"

Through kickstarter...14 years later...yea.

Spotie3982d ago

"state that gamers don't want BC"

Never said that. Don't go twisting remarks to suit your needs. I would prefer BC, so me saying that would be beyond stupid. Why the hell else would I have gone out and bought a BC PS3? Or will you claim I was lying about that?

"story wasn't really the big points"

We have nothing to talk about on that front, then. For me, both games were all about the story. Of course, I'm able to reed story in more than just onscreen dialogue. The desolate landscapes of SOTC told a story of their own, as did the oppressive emptiness of Ico. The story of companionship and how it plays out is massive in both games, too. The environments and puzzles you care about are informed by the story I care about. Anyway.

"Through kickstarter...14 years later...yea."

And then there's the ignorance.
http://n4g.com/news/1744919...
Just kickstarter though, right? And I was referring to the original, to begin with. That said, Sega's poor handling of... well, everything is what caused it. That, and the lack of popularity it received on the OG Xbox. But I guess according to you, demand can't increase as time goes by. More people can't discover they love the game, or can't be intrigued enough to want a new entry because they missed out on the old ones. Simply that it took so long for Shenmue III to have an opportunity to be made is justification enough to say it was boring.

Here's a thought: if you're not interested, don't comment. There are plenty of other subjects to speak on without being negative just because.

IamTylerDurden13982d ago

Gangster red - regardless, you aligned yourself with the foolishly naive description and obviously quoted it to show your agreeance. Though you didn't actually make up this riveting reenactment you clearly broadcast at the same twisted frequency as the writer and like clockwork i can count on your slanted static in every Sony article that arises.

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Relientk773983d ago

That live Just Dance performance at Ubisofts conference

and EA Mobile

Chaosdreams3983d ago

...The mask didn't bother me. My first thought was, "oh, cosplay?" I mean, that's how my mind works. lol

ZaWarudo3983d ago

Too much mobile crap during Square Enix conference.

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Why The Game Industry Needs In-Person Shows Despite The End Of E3

Skewed and Reviewed kick off 2024 with a look at the need for in-person game conventions with the End of E3 and compares the cost-cutting methods of Hollywood who still value in-person events.

gold_drake863d ago

so, this article didnt tell me why we NEED to have in-person shows like e3, other than the authors nostalgia and remembrance of covering one of these shows.

but it also doesnt mention everyone outside of america who have never had the chance to see it in person either haha
we had to watch the darn livestream, if they had it available, at 3am in the morning haha with lags amd crashes (not all the time)

while i think these shows are great and all, i dont really "need" to have them. people are busy, im busy. id rather watch a livestream than to book a flight, a hotel etc.

but theres still pax and all of that.

Garethvk863d ago (Edited 863d ago )

I did mention that you cannot have hands-on and meetings with key people and the excitement. Europe has Gamescom and had Paris Games Week and N.A
Needs an industry event again.

A Livestream does not even come close to what was lost. I much prefer seeing and playing the games in person and asking questions to developers and marketing people versus watching talking heads doing shtick on a scripted showcase with a carefully edited video.

gold_drake863d ago

"need" is a strong word for it, imo.

"good to have it" would be a better way to describe it.

and sure, gamescom is in se germanland, paris week in .. paris.

most people dont rly care for it anymore. they either tune in to a livestream or vod or read about it online.

but opinions are opinions. if u think we Need them, then there ya go.

Garethvk863d ago

I think the industry needs them. The rank and file public not as much but our coverage is greatly limited via livestreams compared to what it was to say nothing of streams. Hands on previews Re very limited as well as we used to play big games months before release.

ApocalypseShadow863d ago (Edited 863d ago )

I get what you're saying. In person is always preferable with a hands on. Because there are those like myself that like to try before buying. That likes physical mostly over digital.

But having said that, I think it's more *your personal need* than a need for the industry itself. You need to be the middleman giving your point of view, possibly your own personal bias or subjectivity or objectivity to the equation. *We* as gamers don't actually NEED it. We can come to the same conclusions, positive or negative about a game as you can.

Companies like Sony or Nintendo used to sit back and watch others give their take on things that were negative to the message or had an agenda. Especially during the PS3 era of website bias, swag bags, advertising hand shakes, biased video, free laptops, etc.

Companies like Sony took the reigns and decided to let their base see for themselves what the games look like, than through the eyes of some journalists, bloggers and vloggers looking to cash in on click bait and advertising.

Delivering their message directly to the consumer killed a lot of that nonsense. You see the developers, you see the game, and in many cases, you can speak to these developers on discord than worrying about some article's take on something.

It's not that I want you to become obsolete. But for some, I'm glad it killed their business practices. Also, we live in an era where these games could be streamed directly to the consumers after the presentation from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft that gives that hands on of a game. They just have to implement that technology and make it high quality without latency. And *WE* as gamers can speak to each other on a preferred media platform and give our opinions on the gameplay we just experienced. Many journalists have not been fully honest on games before release because they fear losing their backstage pass and free gifts. We would know just by playing if a game is something we want. Remote play is possible now without lines, without expensive trips, etc.

To close, Sony has sold mostly 50 million PS5 consoles, over 110 million PS4 consoles and Nintendo has sold over 120 million consoles without a journalist take. They delivered their message and it's still reaching the consumers they are targeting without spending the millions of dollars on in person setup at a venue

I get what you're saying. I lived through the whole era when E3 was created and watched. But I don't need it and never been to one. And really don't need a journalist to tell me what to like or dislike.

EvertonFC862d ago

The ques for 1 game were 4 hours long for the most part, that's NOT fun.

S2Killinit862d ago

The problem with live shows was that it became all smoke and mirrors and a show of things not related to gaming. Therefore I would argue that it added a new layer of cost to the game developers and console holders that necessarily will need to made up for. Either we the consumer have to pay for that cost or the developer/manufacturer will have to bear the cost thereby taking away from profits leading to smaller studios dying out.

Remember xbox buying celebrities to make appearances? Thats a good example of unnecessary cost.

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JackBNimble863d ago

You don't need to go to the movies either, you can sit on your ass and watch any number of streams but that doesn't make it any better then actually going out.

This generation has become so spoiled and lazy.

gold_drake863d ago

booking a flight and a hotel aint the same as going to the movies, but pop off i guess ha.

Garethvk863d ago

Streaming cannot replace the communal experience of event films.

EvertonFC862d ago (Edited 862d ago )

Actually it does, for one it's cheaper eating my own snacks at home than over priced pi** take cinema prices. 2 it's About £150 to take the family to the cinema or £15 for a new cinema release and watch at home on my awesome 4k TV.
3 We can pause the film when needed, sit in the warmth of our home and have no di*kheads talking through the movie.
That's called using your brain, not being lazy or spoiled dude.

TheColbertinator863d ago

I'd rather publishers send out closed betas to garner gamer concern and interest like how we had demos back in the day.

I don't miss E3 as much as I loved it at one point but that era is long gone.

Garethvk863d ago

There is a need but refinement was and is needed.

Zenzuu863d ago

Sad to see it go. It was a great event for gamers and developers all around the world getting together and celebrate gaming as a community.

The announcements of new games/hardware, hype, surprises and seeing live audience reactions, it's something only events like E3 are able to bring. It will be missed...

hombreacabado862d ago

if its going to be anything like the game awards where celebrities that dont even play games are there and its just full of fluff and commercial crap than no we dont need in person shows. we just end up watching the trailer montages the next day anyway.

Shiro173862d ago

To be honest E3 was one of my favorite times of the years when I was younger. I couldn't wait for all the big conferences and new announcements. It was hype even if nothing good was announced we had cringe moments to laugh at.

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The Rise and Fall of E3

Rest in peace, E3. It may be easy to understand why you wasted away, but you will be missed.

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Terry_B881d ago

Nah..it won't be missed. Times changed.

mastershredder880d ago (Edited 880d ago )

E3 pre-2005 will be missed, everything after than ain't even close or worthy of mention to be missed. Late 90's E3's were phenominal, especially the after parties.

Dwarrior880d ago

Those that scoff and hand-wave it away are kids that were never there. Peak E3 was peak gaming.

It already IS missed.

darthv72880d ago

"$299".... and the rest was history.

jznrpg880d ago

It’s been dead for a good while so I don’t miss it. Things change

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Remembering the most chaotic trade show, E3

Pour one out for E3; it's finally deader than the dodo.

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