Why so many remastered games?

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xHeavYx4004d ago (Edited 4004d ago )

Also, the there aren't that many remastered in comparison with new games. Just a lot of people crying about it.
There are many reasons why games are being remastered, like a lot of people owned a different console last gen and didn't get a chance to play big games.

Griever4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

I agree with you. There is demand for these remasters by a sizable group of gamers so the developers are producing them. Although I think one of the reasons for several remasters this generation is the x86 architecture. Maybe the x86 architecture has made it very easy to port previous gen games on current gen hardware. After all ease of development and porting was an often touted benefit of using x86 hardware in the current gen consoles. Of course that is just a theory without any proof but it just occurred to me while thinking.

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freshslicepizza4003d ago

to simplify why,

1. to make easy money

2. because both sony and microsoft don't do a very good job at backwards compatibility, again it's about maximizing profits while keeping hardware costs to a minimum.

3. familiar ip's means less risk, means good chances to make profits.

4. new owners that never had old hardware.

5. to make more money.

6. the hardware is capable of improving old software. we accept this philosophy when it comes to movies such as going from sd to hd, so why are we complaining when it happens to videogames? nothing wrong with playing old games again that are improved. why keep old games then if you never want to play them again? stop being a hypocrite.

7. because consumers buy them, equals easy money.

8. brings more interest to the franchise for new instalments and profits can go towards new entries into those franchises.

9. bottom line, to make money.

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_-EDMIX-_4003d ago

Agreed with Griever. Never thought of it like that.

@Moldybread.

1. When was the goal to not make money?

2. Last gen...we got ports from publishers other then Sony and MS. BC? All PS3's are BC with PS1....yet go on PSN and see PS1 ports. Why is that bud? Doesn't that sorta break your logic? Hell I own a BC PS3....doesn't mean I OWN THE GAMES!

Which brings me to my next point, no game just did 80 million last gen, thus....we all clearly agree that no person just played all games last gen. If you own a PS4 or XONE and never played a certain game last gen, if ported....why play a lessor version on last gen, when you can play a updated version THIS GEN?

I never played Sleeping Dogs...I own a PS3 AND PS4....so play the lessor? Why? OH But Sleeping Dogs was played by all bro, yup it sold 80 million plus thus has no reasons to be on PS4 or XONE......

Even if that was true....guess what? What would stop them from porting to PS4 and XONE? With 80 million sales...they have the money to port, some ports are as low as 1 million to produce, outsourced by another team so the main team isn't delaying or stopping a game for a port (ie the famous slow gamer myth). It goes back all the way to 1. MONEY!

If they can port...they will. It makes money because people want it because EVERYONE DIDN'T PLAYED IT..thus a market exist.

So besides my disagreeing with your 2. Moldybread is very much on point. Its not being made "instead of" it was always going to be ported.

The team that ports is not the team that creates.

Naughty Dog is making UC4..NOT THIS PORT.

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Retroman4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

possibly it is cheaper to remaster a game than spend millions developing from scratch .

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freshslicepizza4003d ago

@_-EDMIX-_
"1. When was the goal to not make money?"

did i say they didn't? did i say they are a charity? no i did not. i am saying this is easy money.

"2. Last gen...we got ports from publishers other then Sony and MS. BC? All PS3's are BC with PS1....yet go on PSN and see PS1 ports. Why is that bud? Doesn't that sorta break your logic? Hell I own a BC PS3....doesn't mean I OWN THE GAMES!"

we didn't get as many ports as we seen now this early in a generation. the ps3 did not play ps2 games unless you had an early model. the xbox 360 had select games. this gen neither offer bc (aside from ps1 games) and low and behold we see more remasters. coincidence? i think not.

"Which brings me to my next point, no game just did 80 million last gen, thus....we all clearly agree that no person just played all games last gen. If you own a PS4 or XONE and never played a certain game last gen, if ported....why play a lessor version on last gen, when you can play a updated version THIS GEN?"

why? because you can. why allow dvd playback on bluray players? to give consumers the option to upgrade at their convenience. it's called flexibility.

"I never played Sleeping Dogs...I own a PS3 AND PS4....so play the lessor? Why? OH But Sleeping Dogs was played by all bro, yup it sold 80 million plus thus has no reasons to be on PS4 or XONE......"

so you now speak for everyone?

"Even if that was true....guess what? What would stop them from porting to PS4 and XONE? With 80 million sales...they have the money to port, some ports are as low as 1 million to produce, outsourced by another team so the main team isn't delaying or stopping a game for a port (ie the famous slow gamer myth). It goes back all the way to 1. MONEY!"

come back when you can make more sense, thanks.

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_-EDMIX-_4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

@Moldybread- "i am saying this is easy money" and I agree. Merely point out that MOST of gaming is...its a business, nothing more.

"we didn't get as many ports as we seen now this early in a generation"

Yes...yes we did. I'm sorry but coming out day and date doesn't make it less of a port. I mean..unless we are calling Gun and Tony Hawk Wasteland next gen games (ie 360 next gen games) I never saw those games that way.

Many PC ports, Far Cry, BF2, Burnout Revenge, Phantasy Star Universe, Dynasty Warriors 5, Samurai Warriors 2, Guitar Hero II, Rayman Raving Rabbids, The Orange Box (as HL2 released on XB), FFXI, Bully.

Soooo I would say the only reason we even saw 360 get less right now then PS4 and XONE currently was based on 360 used DVD, as XB used DVD as well some of those ports where not even feasible based on space limitation.

As to why PS3 got more collections even from games that are not published by Sony.

Splinter Cell, KH, Prince Of Persia, FFX, Tomb Raider Trilogy, AC collection (might have been 2 of em) etc

It could be based on bluray as a format as to why it got more collections, but more importantly it might be why we didn't see as much collections or HD versions of last gen titles as much during the first year or so of 360's life.

But the reality is....we still saw ports regardless. I again don't really leave out some cross gen games as some of those titles where barely enhanced if at all when put on 360 cough Gun cough. So the only thing about those is that they have might as well just be ports that released day and date as I wouldn't just call them games of that gen as suppose to games that released on that system at the time.

"so you now speak for everyone?" Nope. Merely showing that no game was 100% played by 100% of gamers last gen, thus if released this gen with enhancements, and someone owned a PS4 and XONE, once again....why play the lessor version?

"why? because you can" Even with the choice of a better version? Mind you I stated if you didn't play the last gen version. That isn't just based on not owning the system, its also based on not owning the game.

ie I own a PS2...I don't own Persona 3 or 4, I own them on PS3 as those versions have better load times and look slightly better. Hell I own a PS1 as well, doesn't mean I own Parasite Eve 1 or 2, I'll get them on PSN for PS3 as again, better load times and cheaper, google that game new.

Its not just about having BC. I mean..do you not have the choice to also keep the system you where playing them on?

"and low and behold we see more remasters. coincidence? i think not"

Wii had BC, yet got GC ports. PS3 had BC with PS1...got PS1 ports.

PC is FULLY BC with MOST PC titles..still gets enhancements, remakes etc. I don't also think its a "coincidence" either...its because they have bluray and HDDs. They have more space to do it on both systems in HD, something they could't do on 360. Also like someone mentioned it could be due to x86. Was 360 not BC? I thought it was to some point and it still has XB originals that were ported to XBL.

I just don't buy the whole (ports to sell you twice) idea as you don't need to buy it, you can keep your old games and OLD SYSTEMS and we are even seeing it with systems that had BC.

x86 is their new architecture.

and you again can just keep your old games.

You don't need to buy the ports...you don't need to burn your last systems lol, you'll live.

The market exist for ports because again...not everyone got 3000 games last gen.

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lelo2play4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

"Why so many remastered games?"

Because there are people out there with way too much money to spare, don't mind purchasing the same game over and over and over again. I wish I had that much money to throw away, but I don't. C'est la vie.

Aloy-Boyfriend4003d ago

It's funny because I have a good job and money to spare. And the only remastered game I've bought is The Last of Us. I Don't plan on buying anymore maybe except Uncharted Collection

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CorndogBurglar4003d ago

Yes, lets be bitter and totally one-sided and not even mention that there are a lot people that never played these games the first time around.

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Insomnia_844003d ago

That made no sense at all.

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OtakuDJK1NG-Rory4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

how come it didnt happen previous generation OH right devs refuses to push out smaller games these days cause they only care about spending large budget and want million sellers games instead of trying to try different things.

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gangsta_red4003d ago

I remember a common excuse of people accepting not having BC in their consoles was because they didn't want to play old games on their new expensive consoles.

But now it seems people are willing to pay for old games to be played on those very same new consoles. It makes no sense.

Games from previous gens I can maybe understand, like Resident Evil 1, a complete overhaul was done to that game to make it appear new. Those are the types of re-masters we should want from these developers. Not a game from last gen with a shiny new coat of paint only slapped on.

Spotie4003d ago

Are the people now willing to buy remasters the same ones who said they didn't want to play old games on their new consoles? How common WAS this excuse? Is their decision set in stone? Are they not allowed to change their mind later on down the line without being a hypocrite?

Does their- at this point entirely theoretical- hypocrisy eliminate the larger number of people who HAVEN'T played these games? Does their interest in these highly regarded titles not count for anything?

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Brotard4003d ago

Most people think developers are taking most time to do remastered instead of original games. That's dumb in two ways. 1 if they are it helps them understand the new hardware better quicker. And 2 most remastered are done by companies that specialize in it like bluepoint

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chrisco84au4003d ago

Comment #26.
Read, move on and enjoy your life.

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dancerOfDeath4003d ago

allow me to suggest an alternate reason.

*ahem*

Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo!

rainslacker4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

I have a different theory. I believe these game companies produce so many remasters so the gaming press has a way to make money by making up daily articles asking why there are so many remasters. You'd think after the last few years of this same question being asked(and answered), they would have found their answer, because most people who comment on it seem to know the answer, and that answer is true for pretty much every comment on the subject. To bring the game to more people, to cash in on a popular title, to offer more content, etc.

I have another theory as well. The gaming press often isn't that bright, and it requires the readers, and subsequent posters, to answer for them which they in their place within the industry should have an intimate understanding of. I don't mind people that want to write on why they think it's too many, or whatever, despite disagreeing for the most part, but I do not like this trend of starting articles with a question. in my opinion, if you have to ask a question to start an article, it's a weak article because an article is supposed to be the author asking a question, maybe forming a hypothesis on the answer, then finding out the answer to that hypothesis(regardless of if it matches the authors belief), then presenting what they found out to the reader...much like how the scientific method works. Nowadays, too many articles are written on the premise of the reader providing the actual content, which is just lazy.

Sorry for the side rant, just something that's been bugging me of late...or the past 5 years or so.

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Rimeskeem4004d ago (Edited 4004d ago )

I'll admit that remastering games is not what I want this gen to be about. But at the same time, I have never owned an xbox till now. I am very grateful for the MCC remaster and Gears remaster that allow me to catch up on 2 major xbox franchises. If I didn't already play Uncharted or TLOU, or God of War 3, I would also be grateful for those games.

So far this gen as been the fastest growing console community ever. With that I'm guessing many of these comers are new and Have probably never experienced the other side. Remasters allow them to see the amazing adventure they may have missed.

Of course the downside is that the rest of us are left with a game we already played so we feel left out. But that is why there are new games coming as well.

I say there are remasters that are good and remasters that while maybe good they are not necessary.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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SmokingMonkey4003d ago

Why so many articles on why to remaster games?

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scark924003d ago

Why so many comments on why articles comment on why remaster games?

xD

deafdani4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

Why so many replies to so many comments on why articles comment on why to remaster games?

Wait, what the f*&k did I just say?

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EazyC4003d ago

It's a hot potato at the minute on gaming sites, and a real source of catty-nerd convo on forums!

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rainslacker4003d ago

It's easier to write an opinion piece on why there are so many remasters as opposed to trying to get some information about a new game that is announced or speculated on. Not to say that the average game journalist could easily get that information with some effort, just that there isn't a whole lot to write about most of the time in the gaming world. Since hits are driven by people getting pissed off about a topic, we see things get written on that tend to be a volatile topic...although I think most people don't really care about remasters either way unless they're interested in them, or they want to use it for console war arguments.

bub164003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

Out of all the remasters out there, THIS IS ONE I REALLLLLY WANT, and cod4 :(

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EazyC4003d ago

Classic MP games are a good choice. I remember CoD 4, Resistance 1, and Gears of War 1 all had really cool MP modes, would love remasters for them

Paytaa4003d ago

If they re-released CoD 4 with everything as it was when it came out in 2007, I'd be all over that in a heartbeat. No Call of Duty has ever recaptured the sense of awe and entertainment that CoD 4 delivered, that includes MW2.

BlackTar1874003d ago

o surprise another article about this. I've commented on 5 just today and i haven't commented on 1/2 of them.

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Imalwaysright4003d ago

Because there is no BC.

spicelicka4003d ago

THIS^^^

This is what started it all, now the success has lead to it becoming a trend.

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luis_spartano4003d ago

Why so many stupid articles about remasters like this?

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PhoenixUp4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

To promote a future game in the series, to reinvigorate interest in a particular franchise, and to give people who missed it the first time a chance to experience it because not everybody plays everything.

Real question is why are we getting so many articles about a basic topic

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scark924003d ago

Why not? I personally welcome remasters, it is a shame we cannot play the previous backlog of games, like on Steam etc, but if we are unable to, then I do not mind, I hope Mass Effect becomes remastered.. why? because I missed out on the trilogy, but some people will disagree on that, and thats ok.

buttcheeks4003d ago

Why are people so bothered by them

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re2_apocalypse4003d ago

Because they spend dem dollars on a system to get new games god damn it; and by golly the developers could work on new games (even though most remasters are done by other teams) and it hurts them because they sit on the shelves in which they don't have to by dem, lol

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buttcheeks4003d ago

If they bought the console to play new games why dont they do it then instead of worrying about the uncharted collection buy metal gear or mad max instead of complaining about devil may cry 4 remaster buy batman you know pay attention to the many new games coming out instead of focusing on something that has no affect on you and just makes others happy and most of these remasters are made by studios that do nothing but ports and remasters

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re2_apocalypse4003d ago

I agree buttcheeks; but hey look at the downvotes I got. Clearly people don't agree with my post on the matter

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kevnb4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

its not really that many guys, and as long as there is a market for them...

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wayne4574003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

I don't really understand what the fuss is about. I can count on one hand the amount of remastered games I'm interested in.

A lot of the remasters are not done by the main studio and are usually outsourced by specialists. They provide some extra revenue and bridge the gap between future releases.

It's understandable to want new experiences but if it wasn't for some remasters people would miss out on some great games.

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EazyC4003d ago

Good point; a lot of it stems from fan frustration, it serves as a reminder for the main event - ie the next proper game in the series!

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EazyC4003d ago

I know from my own experience that this only ever bugs me off when it's a game I've played myself. For example, I missed Borderlands 2 and TPS last gen, so I'm seriously lapping up the Handsome Collection at the moment. On the other hand, I'm not so excited for the Nathan Drake collection as I've platinumed every Uncharted game on PS3! I was thinking, if they overhauled MP from them it would be an insta-buy, but they left it out unfortunately :(

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kevinsheeks4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

I'm so tired of these washed up excuses "well john wants the game and hasn't played it so thats why."John had 5-9 years to get the game if he hasn't gotten it throughout all this time he didn't want it so please try a better excuse.

The logical response should be "it's easier to develop and has a higher return and companies love money even at the expense of those who purchased a new console with expectations of new things."

Why did you get a PS4 if all you wanted to do was play last gen games? And no I will not mention Xbox because I've never owned a Microsoft console and I will not use them to pacify insecure grown men who think someones bullying/trolling a particular company.

Flewid6384003d ago

Companies only make products people buy. You do know that right?

But hey...if you feel like these companies feel like randomly making remastered games that no one will buy cuz they are bored, go ahead.

That part about companies loving money? Yes. The only way for them to make this thing called money is for there to be a demand for a product...one people will buy.

LOL what grade are you in?

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gangsta_red4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

Exactly, it has nothing to do with "Joe Consumer may have never played it", that is a very poor excuse. It has everything to do with cashing in on a quick buck by re-selling an old game with a shinier coat of paint.

At least offer these re-masters 5 or 6 years into the consoles cycle. It's just way too soon for a lot of these games being remastered.

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rainslacker4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

Right. We're getting no new games because of remasters. Got it.

Most remasters aren't of newer games. Some are, but most are of older games, and 5-9 years is a long time in a gamers life. It may not even be a matter of they haven't gotten around to it, but maybe they couldn't afford or didn't want all the consoles. Maybe they were in their early teens when the game originally released. I wouldn't expect a 14yo to have played GOW3 when it released(with responsible parents) but at 18yo now they can without hesitation...same with DMC4. Some are collections of games that released over 10-20 years ago. Some didn't have the time when it first released. Maybe they never had a console, but now they have a steady job and are partaking in games and would like to know about these games that people talk about. Maybe they never heard of the series until more recently...like say Alan wake which has a solid fan base, but isn't talked about much. Or DMC, which while popular, would be a rather niche title for it's time.

But feel free to think that everyone has time to play every game, and everyone has always had the means to play every game, but that's not really the case. I've never owned an Xbox console, but would a reasonable Xbox fan not want me to enjoy something like Halo or GeOW should I decide to finally get a X1? Remasters should be welcomed for this reason alone...it brings new people into the fold, and helps foster a community of people that can relate to something they both enjoy.

Of course they're "easy" to make, and it's a cash in(relatively speaking), but it doesn't take away from new games. If anything, it brings in capital to help fund those new games so many people think remasters actually take away from. Very rarely does the original developer ever work on a remaster. TLOU:R was the only one I can think of, and that was really just a skinning job which had a 4 person team.

fashionst4003d ago

New article -
"Why so many articles decrying remastered games?"

Flewid6384003d ago

No console in the history of gaming has ever had even a quarter of its gaming library remastered....including this current gen.

Someone tell me again why this thread exists since it has nothing to do with anything real?

Thanks.

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RJ920094003d ago

What playstation one had a shit ton I mean a shit ton. Just don't say facts if they are not true

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Flewid6384003d ago

Really dude? They remastered Genesis, SNES and N64 games all over the place during the PS1 era? Na man I was there.

Like i said....during each consoles lifecycle there is a library. Wiki that library for each console. Remastered games will make up the minority.

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RJ920094003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

Those were still remaster tho there's always been remaster since nes day remember super Mario all stars?? What about all the namco museum 1 threw 5 on ps1? Sonic jam on the sega Saturn or sonic on the game cube hell final fantasy 1-5 on ps1 the old nes mega mans on gamecube they even did a resident evil 2 duleshock edition so I really don't get why people say there so many now when this is a very common thing and of course each passing gen you will have more and more remaster it's just how it works.

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rainslacker4003d ago

Those weren't really remasters, they were more just throwing a bunch of Roms into an emulator, and providing a menu with an opening sequence and some concept art. Hardly a remaster. All of them played and looked exactly like they did originally...for better or worse.

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RJ920094003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

There always remaster hell there's remasters of remasters same with music, movies and tv shows just happens with time . what I want is a remaster of a bunch of old games I have way to many systems .I wish my ps4 would play all my old playstation games and same with my Xbox lol I'm for them I've been for them past gens

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yankolo4003d ago

People keep buying remasters...they will keep doing remasters...that simple....ill love to play all the batletoads series if they do it ill buy it for sure...

Shineon4003d ago

Because the consoles lack BC and it's easy money for devs

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Summons754003d ago

Because greed and no backward compatibility...

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mastershredder4003d ago

It depends on the level and quality of the remaster for me.

I can appreciate a good remaster, but when it's one of those "oh, this is the definitive edition, our true vision" then they can stick right were it does not shine. A "definitive edition" has so much more meaning when it is done from the get go.

Petebloodyonion4003d ago

Why are they making remaster?
Because they cost next to nothing to produce and ppl buy them
Simple as that!

And if Sony says it's the greatest thing on the planet then the sheep follow.

Here's a fun fact: Remember how ND was working so hard to cram that nice 1080P/60 frames sec in TLOU that every day there was a article about how hard they are working to achieve this. well it seem they lost the art of programming because Blupoint (a B studio) seem to be able to achieve that in a really small amount of time with the same engine!

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chrisco84au4003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

New games outnumber remastered games many times over.
Do we whinge about all the sub par new games coming out?

I am sick of hearing about how it 'might' be stopping the studio from making a new game, how it's a money grab etc etc, we are the general gaming public do not know the finer details of ANY of this, stop acting as if you do.

Why as GAMERS do we feel the need to do complain when we are getting MORE games? Old, new, great, good, crap, they are all games for us to make the choice to buy and play.

You cannot blame anyone but yourself for your gaming purchases. Don't like remasters? Don't buy them. Simple really. Don't whinge about something that at the end of the day has no bearing on yourself unless you go out of the way to buy them by choice. Therefore 'victimising' yourself, those people I pity.

I am all for games, new, old, remastered. Don't care. Give me as many as possible to choose from and then I, as a consumer will buy the ones I feel I will enjoy. The ones is don't buy have ABSOLUTELY no bearing on my life.

It really is that simple. We are one big great community of gamers, show some maturity, take some ownership of your choices, enjoy this magic gaming period we are in (new AAA ips, supreme indies, amazing sequels, majestic remasters, amazing hardware) and bloody enjoy it and STOP THE COMPLAINING about something that can ONLY affect you if YOU choose it to let you.

That cover it all?

Peace my fellow gaming brethren.

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JasonKCK4003d ago

99.8% are just cash grabs.

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Ricdog4003d ago

Funny thing is, people that hate/love remasters....must hate/love COD. Otherwise they are hypocrites.

The EXACT SAME arguments one can make in favor, or against, remasters are the same arguments one can make for COD.

COD is the same game every freaking year and millions buy it, BUT plenty of gamers hate COD and say its buying the same game over and over. And technically the same argument applies here. If you buy remasters, then your no better than a COD fan who buys the games every year.

captainexplosion4003d ago

I've never really understood this generic CoD copy and paste BS. The CoD games have dipped in quality but they arent the same game over and over. That generic insult started w MW2 which was very different than the ones before it. Then Black Ops came out and kicked up the "copy and past" crap to an alltime high, but it was VERY different than MW2. It was more run and gun, less strategic, different perks, had Zombies, the top down shooter, much better matchmaking, more options for friends to play together, different era, weakened perks, weakened killstreaks, the theater, and the awesome free for all party modes. MW3 and Ghosts didn't add much, but they were still far different than Black ops 1 and 2 which preceded them. And the last one was AW which was much different than Ghosts (movement, boosting, pick 13, vertical maps, less camping, incredibly underpowered perks and killstreaks, can't hear foot steps, etc).

slappy5084003d ago

I'm sure I've seen articles like this before. Maybe this article is a remaster. Anyways I'm off, going to eat my remastered corn flakes

captainexplosion4003d ago

I don't get why people complain about remasters. What do they hurt? They don't usually take away from the development of other games. Saints Row 4 did not interest me at all. I never intended on ever playing, but some how Gamefly sent me the PS4 re-release and I absolutely love it. WIthout the remaster I never would have played. And although it's exactly a remaster, just a port and re-release, I never would have got into Borderlands without the Vita re-release of Borderlands 2. There are very few re-releases I care about but a Gears COLLECTION, a Mario remastered collect, and another Ratchet one would all be day one for me. Maybe even Modern Warfare 2.

hello124003d ago (Edited 4003d ago )

Dont mind remasters long as they go crazy with it and release too many.

PS4 vs XBOX one

Well the PS4 has more remasters
Broken Age
Grim Fandango Remastered
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
Oddworld: Abe's Odyssey New and Tasty
Injustice: God's Among Us - Definitive Edition
Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate
Toukiden: Kiwami
Dead Nation: Apocalypse Edition
Final Fantasy X/X2 HD Remastered
Final Fantasy 7 (remastered PC port)
Uncharted Collection.
God of War
Last of US.

Compare to Xbox One:

State of Decay
Gears of War not announced yet.
Halo MCC

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4003d ago

uth114003d ago

Because some people are glad to have them, and many of the new games aren't ready yet.