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Xbox One Independent Developers Pack Revealed

It's not E3 yet, but Microsoft has taken the wraps off of this "Independent Developers Pack" Xbox One, in Australia of all places.

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Rimeskeem3997d ago

So they will probably announce the new controller and the new bundle during their E3?

LAWSON723996d ago (Edited 3996d ago )

If so kind of lame... Sure release these new decent items, but to dedicate time in a 90 min conference for something so miniscule is just stupid. Announce an awesome Halo 5 console or maybe a larger HDD SKU not this

LexHazard793996d ago (Edited 3996d ago )

No You're LAME, this is awesome. Xbox One more skus with different games is not bad. Plus they can always announce more skus at E3.

Sorry for the edits..frrikkin this auto correct and for some reason everytime i hit backspace it just gives me like ten words. Like thisthithisthisthi

SilentNegotiator3996d ago (Edited 3996d ago )

Hopefully they announce that they're finally updating the Xbone to include dev kit capabilities. That would be a good tie in to this bundle.

gfk3423996d ago (Edited 3996d ago )

So ironic to see on the one hand MS releasing a X1 bundle with indie games, while on the other hand Xbox fanboys accusing (without reasons) Sony gamers for buying the Indiestation 4.

Wow, I cannot wait to see how Xbox fan boys will react to this. Most probably, they will praise this decision made by MS and twist in a way their accusation.

Irrespectively, it is now OFFICIAL that X1 is the Indie-station.

badz1493995d ago

IndieBOX

but yeah, curious to see if the hypocrites from the xbox camp will ever come forward to troll this.

Sureshot3997d ago

This reminds me of the xbox 360 arcade pack.
Sadly I don't see this selling very well.

kenmid3997d ago

this is nothing like a arcade pack

LAWSON723996d ago

How?

The Arcade 360 was the bare bones system that had a less premium look and worse extras. This is 7 indies game with a regular Xbone console

rainslacker3996d ago

Think sure is talking about the arcade pack unplugged 360 bundle which included some XBLA games on a disc.

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zsquaresoff3996d ago

As great as indies are, don't see anyone going out of their way to buy this bundle when its kept next to a Cod or fifa bundle.

SonyOnly43996d ago

XD I love indies but I find it hilariously Ironic how we have heard "Indiestation" being thrown around by Xbox fanboys.....Then Microsoft literally put out an Indiebox LMFAO.
#Idarb is a great game though still this makes me chuckle.

ilikepizza3996d ago

xbox started the whole "indie" phase on consoles. Xbox never ran away from having indies but its sony bending over backwards to get indies on there platform,it's also sony themselves who stated they are cutting back on triple a games and focus on prmoting indies,thus the indiestation 4. xbox has exclusive heavy hitters,indies ps4 is indies and remasters. Big diff

DialgaMarine3996d ago (Edited 3996d ago )

Oh, really? Is that why Sony has far more AAA exclusive titles in development for their console? Don't believe me?

ND is making a game
Santa Monica is making a game
Guerrilla is making a game
Guerrilla Cambridge is making a game
Sucker Punch is making a game
Quantic Dream is making a game
Media Molecule is making a game
Polyphony is making a game
Sony Bend is making a game
Insomniac is making a game
Sony Japan Studio probably has multiple projects going
Level 5 is making a PS4 exclusive
Sony just opened a studio to develop project morpheus games
From Software is probably going to be starting the initial stages of the BloodBorne sequel soon
Ready at Dawn is probably making a sequel to The Order.
Atlus is making a Persona 5
Capcom is making Street Fighter 5

The list goes on... You Xbox fans keep talking about all these big heavy hitters M$ is coming out, but what's gonna happen after the holidays this year? You're gonna wait several more months for Quantum Break and ScaleBound, and then what? Another sideline Halo/ Fable/ Forza? Gears 4? M$ starts off every gen with a decent amount of AAA games, but then after the dust settles, they immediately fall back on only what sells the most, leaving you fans getting 2-3 "heavy hitters" per year, and you then you all fall back on "Oh uuhh uuum... Quality over Quantity!", but then you aren't even getting that. Get over your bullshit propaganda.

jukins3996d ago

Lol sony isn't bending over backwards. Thier policies are just more welcoming than microsofts and let's not forget the larger install base. So it makes sense for smaller devs who can't make multiplatform games at the same time to go for the console who has little to no stipulations on allowing the game to be released on the console as well as larger potential sales.

TheCommentator3996d ago

@dialga

You basically listed studios and put "making a game." You should have listed what MS is working on right now as well because you compared nothing in your post, so how can anybody really believe you? Either way, I'm sure Sony will show some of these games at E3, which we all look forward to, but MS has some secrets as well, maybe even some exclusives from 3rd party studios. We just don't know enough yet.

What really doesn't sit well with me though, as Sony stated, is they are starting to see a gaming drought. MS is going through one that is going to be over soon and got bashed all over this site for it, and now that Sony is everything is still fine because they have games coming out later? I don't appreciate the double standard. If you can't see at this point that Phil is changing how MS does business, maybe E3 will open our eyes to new possibilities.

rainslacker3996d ago

Sony had their simple series of games back on the PS1. There were a couple hundred games released for it. Each on came on its own disc. It offered an inexpensive developers license to smaller independent studios which wasn't available before on consoles after the NES and developers required publisher support to make a game for consoles themselves, mostly because cartridge production was rather expensive.

MS innovated by making XNA to allow the more accessible hobbyist developer, which could also include rather small indie studios, and they did have their accessible indie initiatives for smaller developers that could self-publish through the internet, but this was something born of the internet.

All the other comparisons in your statement are just wrong.

Anyways, if PS4 has more indies now, doesn't that just go to show that MS kind of gave up on the market, whereas Sony embraced it? Should they be criticized for that? That seems a bit disingenuous given that you applaud MS so heavily for bringing it to consoles. By your reasoning, you would say that MS did a bad thing for bringing indies to console.

gangsta_red3996d ago

@Rainslacker

"Anyways, if PS4 has more indies now, doesn't that just go to show that MS kind of gave up on the market, whereas Sony embraced it?"

Sony pretty much pushed the whole indie marketing movement complete with the PR tagline of "<3 indies" to compensate for their lack of triple A titles. This was pretty much the motive behind this band wagon movement coming off of the heels of MS's own successful XNA games.

I said this in the past and it seems pretty obvious now. MS never gave up on indies they just didn't need to put them on a pedestal and force feed them down their fans throat as Sony did.

rainslacker3995d ago

I don't think MS gave up on indies, just that ilikepizza's reasonings conflict with one another.

I don't see Sony's push for indies as a way to compensate for their perceived lack of AAA 1st party titles, just as Sony recognizing the merits and popularity of indie games that has come about in recent years.

Sony was pushing indie games last gen as well when they were releasing a ton of games. They've expanded on that this gen, and made indie game development more accessible on the PS4. Why wouldn't they promote that as a key part of their marketing since it is a key part of their system. They haven't stopped making AAA games in favor of indie games, they've only started investing more in indie development.

It's only fan boys who want to make the indie scene a negative now, mostly to try and reinforce this narrative that Sony isn't making or releasing AAA games.

wegetsignalx3989d ago

Sony is not cutting back on AAA 1st party games. PS4 has both exclusive heavy hitters and indies/remasters. You are spreading lies and trolling as usual.

Sony has far more 1st party support. To be announced shortly: The Last of Us 2, God of War 4, Gran Turismo 7, Horizon, Gravity Rush 2, and AAA games from Sucker Punch, Media Molecule, Japan Studio, Guerilla Cambridge, Sony Bend, Sony London, and Quantic Dream.

DigitalRaptor3988d ago (Edited 3988d ago )

Jesus Christ, Gangsta.

What garbage are you spewing? Are you trying to prove that you're not a fanboy, or that you are?

Sony started their adornment of homebrew indies last gen, and ramped it up during the times in which they were releasing the most first-party content out of any of the console manufacturers. What an obtuse liar you are proving to be. So where's your proof of that which you claim? You're always so eager to ask Sony fans for evidence on claims (not Xbox fans though, they're golden), but not playing by your own rules now are you G?

Nope - you are making up things to suit your agenda of discrediting indie devs and their place on the PS4, whilst ignoring that no generation in PlayStation history has had a stellar first or second year in terms of first-party releases. Yes Gangsta, a "bandwagon movement" to do the same as any other generation with their first-party developers. What a useless bandwagon.... LOLZ.
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"MS never gave up on indies they just didn't need to put them on a pedestal and force feed them down their fans throat as Sony did."

The developers don't seem to be saying that en masse now do they? They were sure as heck asking for a program that MS didn't make sure to incentivise or makes appealing to them. Goddamn to your lies. You've shown your colours one too many times.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot12d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle12d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7712d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Star Wars: Bounty Hunter Let Jango Fett Loose

LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7717d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300018d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7217d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit17d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania18d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit17d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0717d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr17d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr17d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9517d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7217d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

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What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7217d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket17d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm17d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde17d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago (Edited 17d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_18d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted18d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit17d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9217d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT18d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers18d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14917d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0717d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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