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Nvidia Gameworks And The Controversy Around It – Explained

Asidcast says "For those of you that might not know or have not bothered, now might be a pretty good time to get acquainted with Nvidia Gameworks. Initally launched in 2014, Gameworks is a collection of propriety technologies and APIs that Nvidia offers to developers."

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Razputin4016d ago

I don't put it behind nVidia doing fishy things with their products.

I bought two 970s in the hopes that it would perform well, but with the huge crap that it implemented with false advertisement, lying, and doing some skeptical jumping around trying to explain what they did with the VRAM, its really hard to believe or trust nVidia anymore.

I go with their products simply because games do run better on them, even though with performance on paper AMD beats them.

I do firmly believe nVidia could do a lot more allowing AMD to have better performance and better transparency with their "gameworks" suite.

ninsigma4016d ago

Yeah they lied but in all fairness to the 970, it's a great freakin card. I decided to turn off sli to see how witcher 3 runs with everything on and up full at 1440p and it ran at 30 fps. I expected it to tank so I was impressed. But yeah it is hard to trust them, i think everyone can see that now. Only problem is they have the best performing cards.

Bolts4016d ago

This only happened because AMD is utterly getting crushed. Let's face it. AMD open source stratgey isn't working. Just look at Steam. The open source and nature of PC gaming is dead. Everything is proprietary now and Nvidia ability to drive game development by having a seat at every big game release simply works.

AMD will need to out spend Nvidia in terms of game development and support if they wish to turn the market around. But that simply isn't their business model and for that they're screwed and so are the gamers. Nothing good come out of an Nvidia dominated world.

zRude4016d ago

AMD getting crushed ? Hardly. AMD is making shit tons of moneu, thanks to their hardware deal in both new consoles. And Now AMD is stepping on with their new strategy to go for the high performance cpu / gpu level Intel has. And not focusing on the cheap PC genre that much anymore. AMD imo is hauling his prick in intels bunghole atm.

T9004016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

@zRude

Check AMD financials, they are making losses. APUs sold to consoles sell for very low prices, not much money to be made there.

Edit: even then imagine if Apple was selling 100usd Iphones, the profit would be so low they wouldnt have money for any real research. Same goes with APU sales for consoles, the profits are so small it barely leaves AMD with any money for researches.

NuggetsOfGod4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

If amd wasn't doing badly sony and Microsoft would be f$#!ked!

Nvidia turned down sony because they were to cheap for them and intel graphics suck.

Console have one company to rely on lol
If AMD ever says "it's not worth it" then you better enjoy your ARM or Cell 2 console.

Still, AMD single handedly changed the industry with a serious push for low level api's + HBM.

Nvidia is creating good drivers and perfecting realistic pubic hairs.

uth114016d ago

This is not a good thing. If AMD is made irrelevant, then the PC market will lose all the benefits of competition. So that would likely mean higher prices, slower development, other shady anti-consumer practices.

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ARESWARLORD4016d ago

it is unbelievable how dirty Nvidia did everyone with the GTX 970. 3.5 gigs of VRAM is crazy no company in the world getaway lying to their customers the way Nvidia did

Lon3wolf4016d ago

I agree (and a lot of 970 owners do too I bet) that was low, but the card performs great regardless. I jumped from AMD to NVidia when the 970 came out, had enough of AMD's constant stream of beta drivers.

urwifeminder4016d ago

Why do all new nvidia cards have such a low bitrate? Amd have larger ones now its like they swapped.

tablecloth4016d ago

It's more optimized, compared to larger raw bitrate. Otherwise those with more bitrate would outperform those with less ( in the same class range ), but that's not the case.

hiredhelp4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

Its Nice to see Nvidia gamers see this same way mature PC Gamers do despite my Logo I used to be big fan of Nvidia and since amd got there act together and have stable drivers video cards that debunks alot these myths which are no more. I have had more than 6 AMD cards in my time but more Nvidia.
The reason i chose get the R9 290x after owning a 7970 was thinking going back to Nvidia was because the way nvidia have changed not for the greater good.
Its sad cos Nvidia always had the Market for sometime now without these tactics.

Lon3wolf4016d ago

I recently jumped from AMD to 970 as I was one that found their drivers anything but stable, I used ATI/AMD since 2004 until last year. Nothing wrong with AMD hardware at all, all my issues were driver based.

ARESWARLORD4016d ago

not a big fan they're completely gimpung Keplar which for me is the GTX 780ti that I own in most new games. After the big fiasco that was GTX 970 I hope to go with AMD next time I buy a card

Khajiit864016d ago

I got a 970 and if it is 3.5 then big whoop, still play Witcher 3 on very high with Hairworks on and get 1080p and 60fps.

ARESWARLORD4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

like paying for a v8 and getting the six cylinder its still quick so big woop eh? I have to tell you that you are just really ridiculous

Khajiit864015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Im happy with the 970. Could be better but can it really be that much better where I have to feel left out or something? Does 500 mb really make that much of a difference where you have to disrespect me on the internet? If you dont like 3.5 then you shouldnt be too excited about 4gb just go with 8 or something. Im happy where im at pal. \

Edit: I really thought there was no fanboyism on PC... boy do you prove that wrong.

justlikeme4016d ago

"As to the surprise of many Reddit users, even the last gen flagships such as the 780Ti were struggling to keep up with the current gen 960 even though having far more power as compared to the card. "

So Nvidia is gimping old gen graphic cards, even though they were more powerful, to make people buy newer ones? Great buisiness model.

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Veteran artist behind Mass Effect, Halo, and Overwatch 2 weighs in on Nvidia DLSS 5

Darryl Linington from Notebookchect.net writes, "The backlash around Nvidia’s AI push and DLSS 5 has opened a broader question in game development. Beyond performance and image quality, veteran artists are now weighing what AI-driven rendering means for authorship and visual control. If a system can add or reinterpret detail after the fact, the issue is no longer just technical. It becomes a question of how much of the final image still belongs to the people who built it."

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NVIDIA DLSS 4.5 Frame Gen 5x & 6x Come to RTX 50 Series GPUs + Dynamic Multi Frame Gen

The latest GeForce driver introduces DLSS 4.5 Multi Frame Generation 5x and 6x alongside Dynamic Multi Frame Generation to RTX 50-series GPUs. The former increases the number of interpolated frames to 4 and 5 (between every two rendered frames), further reducing reliance on the CPU.

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blacktiger51d ago

Big corp bowing down to another big corp is nothing more than helping each other. But try any games it doesn't work

Smellsforfree50d ago

I don't mind frame gen but only use it if I'm already >70fps without it. It is kinda nice but if I see any visual artifacts I will turn it off. Whenever I'm playing games on my 120Hz LG C3 I will almost never use it because frame rates >120fps look really bad. I think spatial super sampling is a far more interesting and beneficial tech than frame gen. Boosting 30fps to 60fps with framegen is just garbage.

SimpleDad50d ago

Tvs were doing this 15 years ago with their telenovela effect... Idk how anyone can play with this on.

There is definitely input lag there and artifacts.

CornholioX50d ago

It's commercial how they show it. Typical any company does that.

Goodguy0150d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Frame gen just has too much latency and visual glitches for me, don't think I can ever use it for most games. I'd compare with it on and off and it's a world of difference in the feel. I need the very least input lag in my gaming. Companies should rely on actual optimization. As for potato hardware, I suppose it could have it's use.

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Is the AI Push in AAA Gaming Giving Indie Developers A Golden Ticket?

WTMG's Jordan Hawes: "With the advent of NVIDIA's DLSS 5 tools, and the whole debacle surrounding AI usage in AAA gaming, is this new push an opportunity for smaller studios to showcase they are the ones vouching for artistic integrity in the gaming industry?"

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Obelisk9261d ago

They already are. Indie studios are the only developers that constantly strive to publish innovative and experimental experiences. There has been little to no art in AAA gaming, with just a few exceptions.

Yi-Long61d ago

Indie-studios have been showcasing their creative superiority and bravery over AAA-studios/releases for a while now.

Personally. I have zero interest in AI slop in any of my entertainment, so regardless of what Sony, Ubisoft, MS, EA, etc believe the future is, I'm just not gonna touch any of that stuff.

blacktiger60d ago

Everything you said but for me MS is always the problem.

isarai_lee61d ago

One more thing in a long list of things that already give indie Games an advantage

Miacosa61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

In reality a dev having a simplistic tech statck does not really impact the end user experience. If the game is good and worth playing is what matters. In other words some cooks make care if 2 or 3 eggs were used to make a cake but the person eating it doesn't. And in the case of DLSS 5 the chef is soley responsible for the recipe and how its mixed together.