Downgrades will obviously not stop happening, but what's more important as far as Witcher 3 goes, is that they said there was no downgrade with a straight face. That alone should tell you something.

No, they will never stop. Developers and publishers will never stop these deceiving advertising techniques because...well...they work.

People see these early trailers at events like E3 and they get all hot and bothered...buzz gets generated, anticipation builds, and pre orders grow. Sad, but true.

Will optimization ever stop? Answer to that is the answer to you question. People act like consoles could handle the graphics. You build the best game you can then make edits where needed. Always been that way, always will.

I thought the game looked very nice? Ran into some nasty bugs that passed me off(should have been in reviews but I'm used to that...well when they want to not mention it that is) overall the game looks beautiful to me and from what I've seen of pc looks gorgeous too

oh get over it ffs... The game looks incredible anyway.

Maybe they should keep the original stuff out of sight and no one will think this.

If the consoles were more powerful & able to hit 1080/60 you'd see less downgrading.

I am playing this on Xbone and for the most part it looks beautiful, I also have the PC copy and odds are when I fire it up I will just face palm and wonder why people want to cry about everything

Lol there is no witcher 3 "downgrade" on PC which is the platform that devs can push the most when a title is multiplatform (unless we're talking about a shitty port)

Consoles are very cheap in comparison, less hardware capabilties, and fewer options are available to balance shit out. I have my consoles only for those juicy exclusives you won't get any other way, and those babies are usually much more capable quality and performance wise. But multiplatforms are generally fucked, unfortunately.

Reality is hitting hard for those that thought "custom optimization" was a real thing. Its fucking not.

Besides I would play witcher 3 even on a ps2 given no other option.

Maybe all the whiny little b****** should once and for all learn their lesson and stop pre-ordering games, instead of putting us all through this s*** every time something is not 100% perfect - exactly what they want - the best thing ever.

It happens. A lot... Alpha footage != final build, Bugs not caught by QA, server problems not exposed during testing.

"BUT BUT BUT super nintendo games were perfect @ v1.00"
They were also about three thousand times less complex than your average 201X AAA games. And even those were almost always far from "perfect".

"BUT THEY PROMISED". No. They didn't promise anything. They all showed alpha build footage, clearly marked as "NOT FINAL BUILD". You just jumped to conclusions.

The AAA gaming community is so toxic these days... ridiculous. The only articles certain to go "boiling" are these "WHINE WHINE WHINE" articles and business reports.

Downgrades will stop when they start showing actual gameplay footage running on consoles and not on some expectional good pc, now if the pc version ends up looking better than was expected is a win win situation for everyone

F**k the crybabies, great job CDPR!

bruh companies have been stealing yo money with DLCs for years and yall still ain't doing shit about that so none of you will do shit to stop downgrades. As a gaming community we should unite but we won't.

CDPR made a game worth 60$ yet community still complains because what they were shown first was running on a PC. I mean I don't know what to say. People need to stop acting like the game is unplayable if it doesn't look how it looked in an announce trailer

Waiter! I was expecting awesome tasting soup and you gave me slightly less awesome tasting soup! Take it back!

This must be the authors first console generation if he thinks graphical downgrades started with Watch Dogs.

People are complaining about companies blatantly lying in their face and then telling them they did not say that when there is mountains of evidence point to they saying the trailers was gameplay and that they wouldn't be downgrade and party. That all change after launch. I find it funny how people are forget that people are saying this because they blatantly lied to our face and not the fact that the gfx is not the same as the trailer for over a year ago.

I'm going bookmark these articles ( which I wouldn't bother) to all the people that say that parity and lying is now OK. The state that the trailer before was gameplay not some target and state a couple of weeks ago that the game is only one build and aiming for parity. Like the guy above stated early since we seem to be the majority and it seem like people blatantly skim over the fact that customers hate being lied to, I will just take the lost for gaming as a whole.

After this there should be no ea buggy games because a lot of games are buggy. Thats a given these days, its more how devs handle it. But look at GTAv online was a mess for months but got a free pass while the same time bf4 was getting trashed.

Not more downgrade talk no matter what because majority stated its OK if the gameplay is OK. Its not the principle of the devs blatantly lying to you and could continue to do so even worst its the point that we accept without saying so.

No more parity talk. I heard countless time on this site how xbone is holding back ps4 and countless story of if ps4 was the lead platform and port from there. How many time I heard devs didn't want ps4 to look significantly better than xbone so they kept the gfx close.

So everyone in this week that defended this that ignore the reason why people stated what's wrong and what was wrong before ex Ubisoft lying, have no more to say about the matter. This is done no more downgrade talk and when devs lie to you face and try to act like they didn't say or promise that b4 and give you and excuse after AFTER the game launch its COOL.
Its now cool for anyone to lie too you thats the new rule.

If division or any of ubisoft or any devs/ pub don't look like the trailer (which most besides ubisoft and cdpr, state that its a teaser or target render/demo) I don't want to hear anything from these people defending blatantly lying to customers and parity

So no one here has ever seen a movie trailer that made the movie seem like it was going to be the best thing ever, and then go see itvand realize that the best thing about the movie was the trailer for it?
If someone gives it their all and finds that they can't achieve what they want by going all out on the bells and whistles(graphics) is it wronge of them to tone it down a little to achieve their vision?
Infamous ss was gorgeous, but dead. Unity was gorgeous and full of life, but buggy as all heck..
If you hate the gaming industry so much than why do half of you play games? You complain when your burger doesn't look like the picture too? It's a fantastic looking and playing game! You want the moon, well sorry you can't have it. I'm a council gamer and I'm just thrilled that my games don't look like the Atari 2600!

Will Downgrades Ever Stop? Nope, unless you have psychic abilities and can predict what the entire game development will look n play like, from beginning to end.

Will Downgrades Ever Stop? maybe when Quantum computers becomes a reality 10 years from now.

Theoretically, Quantum computers should be able to do optimization aromatic in real time.

By then, the gaming industry will be taken to a whole new level.

Will people stop being gullible? There's the real question.

It wont stop no but why do pre orders even happen?! just to get a steel case? Bugger that! I never pre order.

Well when you promote a game for months and months showing gameplay videos until its release, then digital foundary spills all showing performance downgrades, then is that not false advetising?
I cant complain cos I have an xbox one I know what im in for.

When they make a game, they make it how they want it to look, if the console they want it to play on isn't up to running the game how then want it they will have to downgrade stuff, it's not rocket science. It's what happens to average pc's over the years, you have to knock some settings down to get it running. People get a grip & stop thinking your Playstation/Xbox is capable of running a aaa game at 1080/60fps , it's never gonna happen, it can barely run at 1080/30, so expect games to get downgraded to make them the smoothest they can on the limited hardware they have. If you want 1440/60fps ultra texture games, get your hands in your pockets & get a gaming PC.. Otherwise stop crying.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau

Wuchang is great. Nine Sols didn’t have a physical copy so I never played it but I’ve heard good things so I will check it out. I stopped playing sports games many years ago when before the card dlc’s or whatever they’re called.

Last comment… ):

Great month for others, but not me. Hate soccer and soulslikes. Maybe Nine Sols is good.

🫡 it was fun while it lasted, N4G.

FC26!