Oh please EA wouldn't know 20% if it smacked them in the face, they have no idea what their using, their lazy and all about the money. Whether the PS3 is only showcasing 20% of it's potential or not, I think I'll wait for a better developer to give me their percentages...BTW I hate Sony for making that heavenly sword game, that game looks like rediculous fun, now I'll have to fight my friend for his PS3

they are still following the 40/40/20 philosophy they espoused this past summer???

EA pumps out games fast and with low quality.

Dime a Dozen.

It's seems as though EA has some kind of political agenda according to you folks. This guys just wants to give credit where credit is due.

I don't get excited whenever I hear the name EA but they've got a couple of games on the way that will be very interesting like Army of Two, Airborne, and Crysis! Well hopefully by 2008 someone will come out with a game for PS3 that blows us away(killzone) until the next xbox!

I hate it when people say how much of a percentage they use on a given machine!!! i mean, do these people honestly think they are only tapping a certain percentage? and how they come to "that" certain percentage would make an intersting read in itself.

EA wants to sell games on the PS3 also.that way they can triple their cash!!if they came out an said the Ps3 was crap an xbox was better, they would have just killed almost half of their sales!! they to make promises of potential in the future that way they keep peoples intrest in there product up!!!

Xbox Fanboys and Sony Fanboys finally found something to agree on!!!!! That we all think that EA and all there games suck!!!!! Guess there is a chance for World Peace after all!!!

You are on crack.

The ps3 uses almost 20% just to power it's operating system, so this is just EA trying to not hurt sony's feelings too awfully bad, since we all know it's all about the "m-o-n-e-y".
Will ps3 games get better? Sure, so will Xbox 360 and Wii games, it's just the law of video gaming advancements. The all get better w/time, unless developers start loosing faith in say sony and the ps3, then they'd let minute details go by the way side and just put out anything that they had to do. same goes for MS or Nintendo.

There's no real loyalty with EA, UBI or any other gaming dev. for that matter it's all $$$$$$ signs. They could care less about what's got this or that, there comments to some extent should be taken w/a grain of salt.

to say 100% of a system is being utilized wouldn't just be referring to it's allocated memory, there's so much more to it than that, but 20% is a lie as stated in my headline.

I see a parallel between sony and xbox fans in comparison to democrats and republicans. Xbox fans use scare tactics to get people to agree with them, and sony uses facts.

EA has it's own rack in my EB game shop and i walk past it every time.

Qoute: This guys just wants to give credit where credit is due", im not following you on how this is saying anything other than using 20% of PS3's resources, it seems like they use 20% on every game they make although they took it up a notch on Army of Two.

EA games are looking like Xbox games on next-gen console's end of story E-nuff said.

you didnt say that did you!! SONY use FACTS, come on dude you just lost all credability you would have had until you said that!!

Lets all believe EA...

It's the other way around, Ken K.-WMD's/4D 3x more powerful and 360's taking back the House of REPs and the Senate. It's the right wing PS fans twisting the truth and attacking DEMS/360 fans. The institution that is PS is tring to hold on to it's power and has done all the wrong things and people are starting to welcom3 chang3.

It's funny that you think Sony comes arcoss as the "new Dems" and not far right wingers.

...let alone master the n64.

I would say MS and their fans are more Blue Dog Democratz(conservative Democrats); than Right wing Republican(conservatives).
Sonys more like an Impire than a Choice giving Democracy. And the Wii and it's fans are far left Libs. LOL

WMD's(Weapons of MAss Destruction)and the need for Blu-ray for gaming(Need BR now when E-distribution is only a few years away for both 360 and PS3) are are one in the same. lol

This topic is about PS3 using 20% of it's power, not about EA being a good company or not, personnelly i don't give a rats if there good or not i just wanna point out if it said Xbox using 20% of it's power they would have had a field day, there would be no mention of EA being a bad company it would be ignorant stuff like well well well, Xbox games can look 5 times better than this lollol, or PS3 is doomed and al that crap, please MS fanboys yous are so god damm lame get a life and stop complaing, you now PS3 is good, you know the 360 is good, you know the wii is good, but why in gods green earth do yous people continually talk utter crap about PS3, it's pointless, you must be the saddest peole on the planet or just stupid kids!

if EA is still devoting 40 percent of their programming efforts to 360/ 40 percent to Wii/ and only 20% to PS3, that says to me that any new and original content will be released for 360 and Wii, and PS3 will be lucky if they get a port of any of them other than the sports titles, which they pretty much have to release on all three because that's where their bread and butter is. If EA starts snubbing the PS3, don't you think other developers are going to start doing the same?? (Didn't they already cancel plans for NBA Live 07 on PS3?) If they are dedicated to doing only ports for PS3 and not original content, then why should they even bother to learn how to unlock anymore power on the PS3 when what they already know about it is enough?? I think EA is making a definite statement here, that they do not like the PS3 and they do not want to develop for it, but they will do ports only because of all the fanboys who will buy Madden 10 years in a row, even though it is the same game, just with different names on the players uniforms.

Yes EA cancelled NBA Live 07 for the PS3. The game sucked plan and simple. Add to that there was already NBA 07 and NBA 2k7 both of which are better.

I definately agree with you....You would see alot of goods and kudos for x360 if it were the other way around....Because every news on the ps3 is just not true or good enough to them. I did take a peak at the x360 news side and almost everyone as nothing but positive things to say about any freakin news that is posted....This site is definately for ps3 bashing.....LOL and it is just so funny to see people hate..Personally all the lame and bad comments towards sony, is just going giving sony more strenght and momentum for every new game released for the ps3....

Just my opinion.....LOL

EA is a financially shrewd company. They have been singing praises about PS3's potential way before it was launched, although they knew that their games on PS3 would look about the same as those on 360. They have gone out of their way to assure gamers that the PS3 will, in the future, be good. And even now, they are giving gamers hopes about what's to come. Like I said, EA is shrewd.

because then I can get the PS3 in 2 years when it is cheaper and has the best games. For now, no thanks.

It sure seems that the 'press' around Sony's new PS3 changed pretty quickly. What was first claimed to be the king of HD, the TRUE next gen (starts when they say it does) machine...has suddenly turned into the 'Wait and See 3'

I mean all these developer comments about unlocking potential 'down the road', and 'in the future' is becoming tiresome. I guess when you release a six hundred dollar console that doesn't really outpace the competition you have to continue baiting the sheep.

First Sony claimed how superior their machine would be (to prevent people from buying a 360).

Now once it is released, they promise down the road it will be awesome.

Sony's new 'Wait and See 3' pay now for future potential...

no thanks!

but I totally agree with jin.

this is EA lame ass reason as to why their games are becoming so crappy. and that goes for their 360 titles as well.

no innovation, sub-par graphics on both systems. being the largest has gotten to EA, and they need to go.

How long did we wait for Gears, how much longer are we gonna wait for Halo 3. How long are we gonna wait for the PS3 to have a kickass title besides Resistance or for the new Mario game to come. We cant go and judge platforms when they haven't been out that long. 3 years seems to be the sweet spot for when we see just what is capable with all machines. MS has 2 years to before it can really be judged, nintendo and sony have 3 to find there place before we put them out to pastor. Save your flames people, cause i'm pretty sure if you own any of the machines or all three your having fun with them. and if your not, get a new hobby.

They totally trashed the James Bond franchise by making games worse than Rares Goldeneye, they also tried to fool people into purchasing one of them by calling it Goldeneye, and it was even worse.

Sometimes, I wish Rare kept the Bond License.

Also why do they always have to make a new sports game every year, why not just leased downlaodable content, because as far as I'm concerned, they are the biggest problem in the industry right now, every time I go to EB games I see a whole shelf wih nothing but the EA logo, it's really annoying.

Calm down, what EA means is there coding is 20% effiecent. Obviously the processor is maxed out (why would they)as you see with framerate drops but the code isn't there yet. According to EA its "20%", but EA has really sloppy codes compared to other devs. A game like PDZ which was a launch title might take EA 3 years just to get to that level of visuals by improving the codes.

The PS3 has a whole lot of potential however it's not going to change the fact EA sucks.
-They ruin achievement scores on the XBL
-They try to milk gamers for every bit of cash possible with market place
-They fought to have there own XBL servers for games and they haven’t been able to do that right.
-None of there games have any innovation

but now every one is in agreement:
28 - proof from a company
shadowgamer - 07 Dec 2006 16:15 | Let him/her speak
that makes SHODDY PRODUCTS and a company that is pushing their product with 360 and lcds.agent864 called it.i knew i heard of this company before.they made a deal with microsoft.

jpomper,NOTHING I SAID ABOUT EA IS FALSE.where have you been the last couple of years in gaming:

FACT:EA PORTS GAMES USING THE LOWEST OF TWO SYSTEMS.

FACT:EA BUYS COMPANIES THEN DESTROYS THEM.

FACT:EA MUSCLES YOU WITH THEIR MONEY THAN THEIR GAMES.

FACT:EA BUYS LICENSES TO KEEP YOU FROM OUTDOING THEM.

FACT:EA USES THE HIP HOP CULTURE TO SELL SHODDY PRODUCTS.

FACT:THIS WAS A PUBLICITY STUNT TO SELL A PRODUCT FROM A DEAL WITH MICROSOFT.

where in any of those facts you missed that i was right about and that everyone else knows but you?

now everyone seems to think EA sucks.they might have some good games but overall they suck.one thing both sides think is true.who would have guessed.

I can't argue there are better things to come from ps3, thats undenialble. However, it won't be through EA who give games developers a bad name.They seem to excert to much influence over their developers and in the end make sure we get generic multiplatform trash.Of course if we didn't buy it then may be they wouldn't produce it. Typical EA game; Nope you can't go that way, but i won't to. Sorry you got to get in this truck and go this way and shoot this many germans before you can go to the next set of rails! Trash, absolute trash. I think ps3 guys will be happy with their purchase eventually ,but it will take a while.360 is there now, so thats where i am at this point in time. My opinion.

I know I will probably get "hate mail" or flamed for saying this, but EA isn't that bad.....of course I will always be a little upset with them for killing NFL2k it was alot better football game IMO, but Iam a diehard football fan so I'm stuck with Madden. EA has made alot of great games and I'm sure we will see some great titles from them in the future *BUT the problem is that they put out too many mediocore titles and it doesn't help when you put out sports titles every year that are marginally better than the year before. It's not that EA isn't capable of making great games; they are a huge company with the resources to do so BUT, when you try to "minimize" budget & dev time to make "maximum profit" margins the games tend to suffer....also they could use some good original IP's. IMO, Army of Two looks very promising, if it does well it will be a improvement over what EA has shown lately, which would help their reputation.

Bottom line is EA is huge company and like it or not, unless they have a few terrible years of sales they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

I love NBA street Vol.2
and Def Jam 2: Fight 4 N.Y.

But when he says EA is using only 20% he's Right cause the System uses the Other 80% To try and run the Games its playing.

Thats just mean and blatantly untrue,but funny!
Now be more contructive in future :)

i wonder how much other third party devs have got out of ps3. ea is apparently biggest third party developer, and has largest dev staffs. if the biggest devs can only get 20% atm, then ps3 is not system for budget third parties, its just for EA, Ubisoft, Activision and First + second parties

imo

Because we gave it to them. We never stoped buying Msdden when it stated to suck back in 2003. We kept buying NBA live. So do not rag them rag the fans. NFL2k looked next gen on the X1 nad the PS2. So did the NBA games. We are the one to blame because we boght EA's vomit.

No I do not want them to go belly up though. They have Army of TWo and MOH AB and CRISIS launching soon.

EA's PS3 use is described in FNR3 and the oncoming lord of the rings online franchises that are the games which really show pushing some stuff, so if these games which pretty much would consume the life out of a full grown PC only require 20% of the PS3, then EA is really gonna show what a true use of PS3 will deliver.

Gears uses 40% of the 360 power as they said because basically all it uses is the GPU...c'mon tell me what else was there in gears...also the procedural synthesis is not a 360 commodity as we're coming to figure out now, so I don't think we'll ever see something out-of-this-world on 360 in future like e.g. deformable worlds or volumetric nuances...the way gears is overrated makes me think that basically we've seen the edge point of 360 and there isn't much going beyond that.

I`ll buy a EA game when they get it to run without any fps problems, hmmm that means never then...Well to be fair they do have some games or no... a game i`m interessted in Army of Two, it looks promising, hope it lives up to the expections (I don`t include the really good-looking crysis here, since EA is a publisher, and not developer). And since i don`t like EA that much ; )- they ruined Bond as said before. SSX is good, Medal of Honour was good. The % thing dosn`t really matter to me, we know games will get better anyway.

the operating system on the PS3 uses almost 25% of the PS3's power, so add another 20% and that is almost 50%.

Now, I am by NO MEANS a Sony fan after the pathetic PS2 broken promises - but I am hoping he is not lying and there is still 50% more power in the thing because that would be awesome for us gamers as a whole later down the road.

But I doubt it. The reason people will never get to use the CELL's real power is because the lack of RAM and the fact the CELL processor is starved for on chip CACHE.

Sony could have blown the world away by simply skipping Blu-Ray and adding a little more cache and a little more system RAM. : (

Oh well, maybe next time the the console makers will get it right?

I'm not surprised by this because EA are a bunch of lazy bastards that rely on brand recognition to sell their games. This is very much apparent in thier Madden series. 2K made a better NFL football game so they just get rid of the competition and monopolize the NFL license. Every year is a rehashed version of the same crap with a few more features and slightly improved graphics.

So, EA is working overtime to make the PS3 looks good. Wonder why... mmm. maybe becase they are a 3rd party developer and their bread and butter depends on it? Also, trying to manage expectation from people buying their games, "but like any new platform it's going to take us a little bit of time to unleash it" they are pretty much saying, "Game will suck for a while until we learn how to use the console." It would also help to know how EA comes up with these figures (20%), I mean; if they already know how much they are using then it means they know what they are not using; what's stopping them from simply using what they know they are not using. Also, since EA knows so much about the PS3 hardware in order to know how much power they are using; how come they don't give us the official specs for the PS3 GPU since Sony seem so resistant to share with the world. Lets pretend the PS3 sucks (which it does not) would EA say so; considering the fact they are developing games for it? As matter of fact they always going to keep a neutral stance about all consoles. For example, why didn't they say the 360 sucks on this article or that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360? besides, don't think that developers program in ignorance they do get functional and technical specification and lots of documentation on the console SDK. They will develop better business practices and learn how to go arround certain system limitations and how to better optimise their code, but 20% sounds like a top of the head statement not well analized fact.

51.2 MB of RAM which is 20% of the PS3's 256MB really makes a next generation experience....

NOT!!!

I think they are using 20% of every single systems power! HAVE U SEEN THEIR GAMES!!! I used to like EA nt no more ever since they bought the right for NFL games they started slacking NBA Live is not the same... its fun but for some reason I played 2K a little more. I used to play a lot of Madden but they have been very sad games the last couple of years. So... Please Please EA start freakin DOING SOMETHING!! I hope that their contract for NFL expires soon we need different NFL makers out there so that WE can enjoy better NFL games. How many times did I say NFL? NFL NFL NFL!!!!!

it's nice to see the mutual hatred of EA bring fanboys together at christmas time.:)

yes, fu(k EA- on PS, xbox, wii

shameless company.

now 20%? where do they pull these figures from? are you sure it's not 19% or 21%?

lol

should revoke EA's license and give it to 2K Sports. They always had a better game than Madden,anyway, and EA is making the NFL look very bad with their crappy game.

only use 20% on any console lol .

i mean look at tiger woods 07 on the 360/ps3 it should look alot better than that , what happend to the links golf ? .

EA= rush job

I found the address to NFL properties so write and tell them how much you hate the license deal they signed with EA

Here is there email:
newproducts@nfl.com

Make your voice be heard people!!

Anyone play the new Superman game? That was fun as heck...maybe even better than Activision's Spiderman 2!

Any Madden fans out there???
Yeah, Madden sells like hotcakes. Everyone LOVES it. EA BIG is freakin' awesome! They did the SSX titles. (ssx3 is still the top rated snowboarding game of all time) They do Need for speed. EVERYONE loves those. Carbon is one of the best racers of the year! You are all saying EA is bad because it almost Monopolized for a little bit there, and you HATE when a company gains power. Like Sony, they are on top right now, but you all WANT to see them fail because of your precious American 360...that has so far UNDERDELIVERED!!! I would like to know what the 360 did for gaming besides better graphics...

NOTHING...which is why MS doesn't help the gaming community at ALL!!!

Can't any of you see that? You MS fanboys (and this site is FULL of them) can't see how biased you are because you are wrong about the PS3 day after day and it shows. Your the laughing-stock of the gaming community...

You guys are saying that EA uses 20 percent of the system's power ever time...

Look at FN:R3... That doesn't look like 20 percent to me. It was the best-looking game on any system when it came out. It's still in the top 3. The physics on that game are mind-blowing. 2k can suck it for all I care. They gave me some pretty terrible games...

Let's get this straight. Every companys main goal is to make money. Every company just cares about the money. Its just the way EA chooses the 'quick profit' route that is disgraceful and what makes them so different.

EA is a big publisher of games.not a big maker of games.or they buy good developers.but that doesn't make EA a great company.where is ssx now?they blew it with number 4.need for speed used to have high performance cars,daytime,cities,country roads,forests.now it's all night time junk.watch real boxing,then play fight night.the animation is choppy,slow,has no presentation(how about entrances with robes on with slow boxing jog and entourages coming to the ring),poor repetitive sound from the commentator.madden just gets upgrades and they killed nfl 2k5 by buying licenses,not making a better game.i don't know if you saw the new def jam video,but it looks like crap already.

you see,EA has taken that money they made and they do nothing with it.just enough to get by,then market it like crazy to the same loyal fans.that doesn't make them good.they have mindless sheep that buy the same product each year.Ea saw burnout was becoming a better racing game.so they bought the company.but to also get renderware and BLACK.40% of companies used to use renderware to make games.EA thought they would cash in on it.now,no one uses it because they bought criterion.now most want to use unreal engine 3.EA SUCKS!!THAT'S THE TRUTH RUTH!

What the hell? it turned racial and anti-american and everything.... whats going on???? Underdeliver???? wow show you how much he know about gaming...Gears of War Buddy!!!!LOL then he is going to turn around and say FALL OF A MAN you freakin hamburger eating american!!! I think MS is just getting started. I mean think about it they are the richest company in the world and its owner is the richest man in the world also AMERICAN by the way.... so what can they NOT do??? I go nothing against any country but I would like to know where he is at....they can afford to lose this console wat and join 50 more console wars and loose every single 1 of them and still not be broke... Sony had this one left if PS3 fails (I dont think it is) but if it did. It would sink sony down so bad they would go bankrupt and force to sell out to who???? MS if they wanned to. I mean who can just turn around and say I wanna purchase Nintendo...??? Who??? Oh yeah I got offtrack....I am gonna go into the NFL site and send a message posting how I feel about the Madden games specially I really dont care about the others because I have a choice and I dont have to play NBA live if I dont want to. but thank for the site address.

1. Sony is not losin anything, 2. Sony has been in the console/game industry more the ms so they know how 2 handle small probs like ms (no worries people) 3. stop all this racial thing cus both consoles get produced in China.. And why are u xbox fans so angry about ea sayin they've only used 20% of the ps3 power?? Sony have revieled this info before and every site has confirmed that the PS3 is the most powerfull consoles ever made on papers and that just turns out 2 be true since devlopers say they've just use 20 % of its power, I cant see nothin wrong in that since we all kno the fact.. with that been said, 360 is a powerfull console it self and nobody can say that xbox is goin the same way sega went thats just not posible with a near 10 mill. fan base.. but we just have 2 accepte the fact that the PS3 have more power under the hood, fights and comparing can't change whats been made people.. So I suggest ya all just go and grab a controller (360 or PS3) and play ur favorite game, that way u dont have 2 worrie about what the media say about any of the consoles out now... NB! just bouth ''Black'' on my PS2, damn that game is the sh*t can't wait 2 see it on the next gen or should I say now gen consoles.. have fun people

"Sony has been in the console/game industry more the ms so they know how 2 handle small probs like ms"

I didn't know a company that makes more money monthly then Sony does in a year will be a small problem. Sony went from over 60-70% of the gaming market to less then 10% of the next gen market.

"but we just have 2 accepte the fact that the PS3 have more power under the hood"

fear the almighty 256 MB Ram PS3!

You make me laugh with how stupid you are! LOL

And u make ur self look like that pic on ur avtar with how dumb u are.. ya know what?? it just doesnt help tryin 2 talk to 10 or 11 years old kids, just ask ur mom and she'll tell u that ur dad is a PS3... I guese I won't see ya answer now cus ur mommy have sent ya 2 sleep, its late kids, so answer first thing 2morrow early.. And I realy dont have 2 say anything els 2 make ur life a more livin hell the PS3 is doin a great job with bettah and bettah news comin in everyday and that just kills u inside, its called a slow and painful dead, its a Japanese method of destroyin an opponent..
!!Flash news!! its reported that the PS3 Fans is grown and smart, 360 fans is 10 years old and under (don't have brain yet in other word) - Wii, u won't see them around after the end of 2006..

It is the most powerful console in history!!!! Its kinda like a muscle car with big balls that has a stupid driver behind the wheel. Microsoft is kinda like a 6 cylinder Supra with twin turbo and a smart driver behind the wheel.... just to prove that you don't need the 8 cyl. you can do with 6 and still have more horsepower in the long run. I agree the PS3 IS the most powerful game console in history I wont say nothing about that. MS is the smart driver that knows that with their twin turbo and a little Nas(Halo 3, Gears of War,Blue Dragon etc.) the 8 cyl. doesn't stand a chance. BUT thats just my opinion. Like I said before I DO WANT A PS3. I don't want it a the current price. and I dont currently wanna play none of their games because they are garbage.

Why because I think EA games suck and I dont have a PS3.

I don't have the time to elaborate on every dumb post here, but let me once again bring Thammie back to the earth.
Thammie you are right, 512MB is better than 256MB, but you somehow are leaving out the fact that PS3 doesn't have just 256MB, but 512MB splitt in 2x256MB. It's the same like on the PC. If you would have any clue about PC and memory, you would know 2x256MB isn't worse than 1x512MB. Actually it's better. Just ask any PC gamer, I'm one and I know what I'm talkin about. On PC you have the advantage of using Dual Channel speed, something you can't use with just 1x512MB. PS3 is not a PC, there is no Dual Channel, but the advantage is that both, CPU and GPU can adress the RAM in the same time. Let's also not forget that one part of the PS3 RAM is clocked at lighting fast 3.2GHz. There is no such speed on PC or anywhere else, just on the top notch PS3. Educate yourself a little buddy before you pop that mouth ;-)

I can't help it, but the Terminator once again enforced the truth haha

Ok on the face of it EA does appear to be a big corporate monstrosity of a game publisher. Churning out crap yeay after year. (Madden etc)
But they do put out some top quality stuff aswell.
Bf2 is one of the best games ever. Really, if you have a pc you owe it to yourself to try it. As for Ps3? Well, I'm a little uncomfortable that alot of screen shots showing washed out bright images (aka old nvidia xbox look), but we will have to wait and see, As Nba 2k7 and fight night dont appear like this. I hope I'm wrong but if the nvidea chip is giving off crappy 'Grey' blacks and washed out look, EA or anyone else can't save Sony. And thats coming from someone who loves his sony consoles! I really hated my xbox for alot of reasons, one of them being the very poor image quality of the gfx chip when compared to the ps2's.(b4 u scream at me fanboys im not talking about resolutions or speed).
But I must admit. ATI is a great company.And you have to agree that colour balance and black ratios on the 360 look really nice. Maybe Gamespot just shows images of ps3 with gamma way up, as they do seem to be all about licking MS behind right now. We can only hope.

"HUSH NOW 360 fanboys.....no one likes you...."

please go hide in a corner. 20% power and they couldn't even get good HDR light?

This reconfirms how great the ps3 can be. Only 20%? Wow. They also need to learn how to balance everything through the 6spe's used for development, and tap into more space from the 50gb bd dics. Late 2007/2008 on the PS3 will be amazing.

We all know the Ps3 is the best. Great article! :)

EA is using only 20% of PS3's power and almost 100% of 3shitsy's DVD and power capacity. Sorry, but the 3shitsy will not go much further than this.

"We all know the Ps3 is the best. Great article! :)"
"HUSH NOW 360 fanboys.....no one likes you...."

ahhaha omfgbqqroflgtf etc etc its really amazing that people defend a system, like if its ther destiny....really i know how 360fans are but Ps3 fans are just horrible!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Notice the Grainy textures and the Bad Lighting.I Thought the CGI on blu-Ray was better than this? In recent news one brave little girl had a Seizure watching this in a dim-lit Room.Her Older Brother, A PS3 Fanboy is being held in Contempt for Endangering the Welfare of a Minor by Viewing Games trailer of this game for PS3. Without Proper Medical Consent.

Xbox 360, Get Down Or Lay Down.

theyre probly just a buncha ppl they pull off the streets and offer food and a salary to fool around with the developer equipment and try to make something that might be called a game.

Amazing to see so much horse manure produced to try to downplay any news that may cast a positive light on the PS3.

#73 - Most causes of seizures from watching video is simply because of bad lighting or the screen flickering. That is why you use a prismatic diffuser with neon lights - because neon lights can trigger seizures.

People prone to get seizures from flickering lights should be careful to watch any television screen - and no - that does not make the little girl "brave" - just stupid.

Why you try to spin it as something against the PS3 only you will know - but it is really really pathetic. Most probably the most pathetic attempt at spinning that I have seen this year - and believe me - the xbots have came up with real lame ones so far - even so far as to lie about a house being burned down - and then having to publicly apologise. I think you should check what you are saying - because you don't want a p-off multi- billion corporate on you 12 year old ass and having your dad explain why you tried to spread such a pathetic tale.

20% - yes - simply because they don't have enough experience with the hardware yet. EA is a big corporate with big budget and they will get there. The first few titles is to "test the waters" while they get the development assets in place.

As to the "grainy textures" etc comments. Developers and artists choose the colour pallet's for the title for reasons. You little twits will comment on dark shades and "bland" colors - yet that is sometimes what is more realistic. Or did you want some bright cartoon color palette to really make Ali look like Goofy?

As to the 512 vs 2x256 comments. The same persons seem to repeat it where it just does not even fit in the thread. Just shows you how desperate the paid viral marketers are becoming - and for the idiots that actually take those comments as valid - shame - you really need to keep quiet and not confirm to those who understand technology what idiots you are.

I just had to share my experiences with the wireless xbox 360 steering wheel. Un Freakin Believable. The force feedback is like nothing I have played before. I had used Force Feedback wheels as a PC gamer before. But this one is by far the best I have played. Never before has a CONSOLE steering wheel had force feedback. Rumble...sure...But not Force Feedback. It makes the games much much much more exciting and Realistic to drive. Granted the game has to be made to utilize the actual force feedback. All the racing games for the 360 use the rumble...but the only two I have tried that uses the force feedback is PGR3 and Need For Speed Carbon. And its Toooooo Much fun folks. I can't stop playing Carbon now. You can actually feel every groove and brick in the road....you can feel the turns...when you get bumped or hit a wall....your steering wheel jerks with force....its out of this world. MS has done a masterful job with the steering wheel. I can't imagine playing any racing game without it now. honestly...it makes that much of a difference. Prior to the wheel I would have gave Carbon a mid to high 8 score. But with the wheel its easily a 9. I highly reccomend any racing fan to invest in the wheel. I promise you....You will be deeply surprised and amazed at how much it adds to Carbon and PGR3. And I'm specifically talking about the way the force feedback is utilized in those two games. Once again...not every game uses the force feedback...but they all use the rumble and the wheel itself. If you have used a steering wheel before....you will feel like you have never used one once you get a feel of the force feedback in Games. It changes everything. As you can tell I'm super hyped up about this. And anyone who has been on live lately will know....Carbon and PGR3 are the two games I have been playing all weekend. TOOOOOOO Much fun. After using the MS force feedback wheel...it should be against the law to not buy one if you buy a racing game. Its that Great folks.

I didn't do that to agrue with rabid fanboys like yourself. I'm just supper excited about it. And NO CONSOLE has ever had a force feedback steering wheel until now with the MS 360 wheel buddy. Thats a fact. PC's have had it. But never a console. I think you are thinking about rumble. Rumble and Force Feedback are two different things. And even if you have experience Force Feedback on a PC before....I guarentee you haven't experienced like this. MS has done a masterful Job on it. Unlike anything I have experience in regards to racing wheels. I understand you must be a noob to think rumble in previous steering wheels for CONSOLES are the same as Force Feedback. I assure you its not even close. Example...

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Previous wheels....you go over bumpy roads and your steering wheel rumbles...

MS wireless Force Feedback wheel....You go over a bumpy road and your steering wheel actually jolts with Force...it affects the way you steer...and if you hit a wall...your steering wheel will Jerk with force....Not rumble...

So, TK....you lied. But why doesn't that surpise me when it comes to sony and its fanboys. Typical.... You show a link to any steering wheel for ANY console....that uses Force Feedback and I will never post on this site again. ha ha ha ha ha....either that or you man up and apologize for lying....Stop being a Hater buddy.

P.S. Back on topic.... I love EA. Sure they are a big company. And many of you don't understand that big companies have to try to make everyone happy. Thats how they get the type of success they get. Sure they don't always give us the most revelutionary type games. But many of their games are solid and fun. And thats what games are about to me. And Need for Speed Carbon is freakin unbelievable with MS's Force Feedback wheel. Its the best racing experience I have had EVER. I'm sure Forza 2 will blow it away. But in the meanwhile I can't see any other racing game coming close to the experience you get with Carbon and the Force Feedback Racing wheel by MS. It changes the way you play racing games. It really puts you in the game like no other.

Now as far as them using 20% of the ps3....Thats the sad part. I think its more of a difficulty/expense to use more than that. Its not even worth it. The rewards you get for spending 1/3 more than the 360 and struggling with the hardware just to have a game make a failed attempt to match what the 360 does easily....with a bigger fanbase....10 million by the end of this year....its just not worth it for 3rd party devs. Remember sony fanboys...its a business first. If you spend less time and less money on a game that superior on the console with the bigger fanbase...its a win, win, win for the developers. I'm sure they feel like me when I say..."Thanks Microsoft".
TheMART

"Man have you played with the Thrustmaster Ferrari Enzo Force Feedback wheel for the PC? "

Yes I have Mart. And the 360 wireless wheel is much better. More percise...The force feedback is insane...and ultra realistic. MS basically improved upon the tech that was aleady available for the PC market. But I will never use a contoller or a standard console racing wheel again. It really really really makes that big of a differnce. It adds a whole new level or realism to the games.

Carbon and PGR3 are unbelievably fun using the first force feedback racing wheel for consoles by MS. I guarentee anyone who buys it will feel like me about it. Its ultra fun. WOW.

Sory but i already enjoy force feedback and its a lot better . GT-4 GRANTURISMO 4 For PS2 yup Its PLAYSTATON 2 u got that? yah that game is fucCing awsome its The REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR Can't WAit for GT-5 cmon bring the game SONY.

i got my PS3 its a Fuccing long story i was fuCcing lucky man . Anyway i played Motorstorm the demo its awsome.the Picture in the internet it suks but once u got to play in your hands its Fuccing amazing. Also Formula F1 downloaad the demo looks great but stil need improve other than that its ok Game .

i bough Resistance now playing it on my 32 lcd hdtv.
4got to mention Bluray is awsome brlliant picture Taladegas nite is comedy shyt lol.

if you want to buy PS3 just call walmart or besbuy every Morning . they come in Random

Too bad you won't have any type of feedback with thbe PS3!!! LOL Somebody (Sony) decided to be to cheap to include that in the PS3! Next Geretion, MY ass!!

Noob...ha ha ha ha ha ha...You mean this racing wheel for PC ONLY. Once again...There has never been a "FORCE" feedback racing wheel for consoles until now. The 360 is the first console to utilize the "FORCE" feedback motor in a steering wheel. And the Wheel that MS has created is far superior to the Logitech PC wheel. I tell you. Some people will never learn. Don't be embarissed...just stop being a fanboy and talking about things you have no idea about buddy.
http://www.ebgames.com/sear...

P.S. And the logitech wheel you are talking about for the ps2....Does not have a Force Feedback motor buddy. I had that one. Its Rumble feedback. There is a difference. Sure the one you are referring to "WAS" the best for consoles. But what MS has done is use the actual Force Feedback MOTOR. If you haven't played a PC with Force Feedback....You have no idea what I'm talking about. Racing wheels can rumble....but when you feel the motor of True Force Feedback...Jerking and pulling your wheel in differnet situations...You would be amazed. thanks Microsoft.

Force Feedback didn't exist before the 360 Racing Wheel, which goes to show often he jacks off to Bill Gates' picture every night.
http://www.logitech.com/ind...

Yes Topgamer, it literally says "Feel all the action with state-of-the-art force feedback technology." And that's just for Gran Turismo 4. They had a force feedback wheel for GT3 as well. PS2 had it before other consoles Buddy. Sorry to burst your 360 Love Bubble.

Now leave before we embarrass you even more.

Some future games will so complex, have huge maps and will not fit on a DVD. 360's owners will feel obligated to buy the HD DVD atachment. I really believe that some great games for the 360 will only be available on HD DVD. Thats not good. 360 is just not complete! No wonder... It was released an year ago.

if that happened, then i'd probably die laughing. seriously. but that really wont happen. WHAT will happen is that they will give you a install option for a super compressed game file like sony before they think of using the nex gen dvd format as a cruch. i dont think anyone is stupid enuff to make 8 mill+ fans pay $200 or any other price but the game itself to play the new AAA title for their console.

They would release 2 versions. One on HD Dvd and one on multi dvd's like Blue Dragon is now. Its really not that complicated. No company would release a game ONLY on HD dvd. A game being on HD dvd or Blu Ray have no benefit in terms of content or game quality. One game that is on HD dvd or Blue Ray would be identical to the same game being on 2 or 3 Dvd's.

So, once again, if game developers decided to make a game on HD Dvd...they would also release it on multi Dvd....And they only way a developer would do that is if the game actaually need to be 30 gigs like Blue Dragon is. I wouldn't be surprised if Blue Dragon is released at a later point on HD dvd. Just for those who want it on ONE disc. A neat little perk but it doens't change the gaming experience. Graphics and Content remain the same. Blu Ray doesn't make games better. It just gives developers more space to work with on ONE disc. Game developers aren't limited in regards to disc space on the 360....Blue Dragon is a perfect example of it. Its larger than Resistance is for the ps3. Next gen is here...its now...and its affordable. This year Oblivion and Gears of War is cleaning house with the Gaming awards. Even the Wii recieved 2 awards. Sony on the other hand...WOW...Absolutely NOTHING. Nada...Zero...And you couple that with the whole Spike TV comparisson where the 360 beat the ps3 unanomously on National TV. The word is out. And I have been saying the War is over. Sony fans have a reason to be angry. Sony has made an arse out of them on national TV AND on forums like this one. ha ha ha ha ha

djbassay2k5

REASON 1 MS did say its for movies only. And I think it should be for movies only. I just wouldn't be surprised if a dev released it on HD dvd at some point and Dvd's simultaniously. And they would handle it just like they do specail editions of games.

REASON 2...I haven't read anywhere that the specs are different than blu ray. I would assume the data speeds are faster on HD dvd. But, I could find out on Wikipedia.

REASON 3 Yes Devs would release games on HD dvd and multi dvds simultaniously. HD dvd isn't unproven. Its the evolution of DVD. Blu ray is unproven.

REASON 4 Like I said before. If a dev wanted to release an HD dvd specail edition.....it would work out just fine. I don't think they need to personally. But, I wouldn't be surprised. Blue Dragon being on 3 discs works out just fine for me. I'll take faster load times over slow load times anyday for games. My ps3 games load ridiculously slow. Slower than ps2 games. ITs a shame that next gen loads that slow.

Off topic

why are you comparing the core 360 with the 60GB PS3?

Because its about the games to MOST gamers. For 200 in some places to 300 dollars you get the 360 that can play games that out perform the ps3 version of the games at a much higher price. Its the point of the matter. Sony talks about how much value you get. But they forget about the most important value of all. THE DAYUM GAMES FOLKS. Hello Sony. When we buy a video game console. We want Great Games. And as of now, the ps3 games do not stack up well to the less expensive 360. PERIOD. Of course sony will say...wait for the devs to take advantage of the ps3. What else can they say? Sorry folks. This is what you have been waiting for? ha ha ha ha ha...Naw, they got to string you along some more to get the sales to pick up and do some damage control.

Why does so many ppl think 256MBx2(PS3) is worst than 512MB(360)? Because it is worse. Split ram is a mess to get around as far as the GPU is concerned. Sony gave the gpu 256 ram and gave the sytem 256 ram. But the Cell needs that ram. Thats why its there. If it wasn't there the cell couldn't operate. Developers are very happy with the unifed ram for the 360's GPU. Thats why they have been on record saying that the ps3 won't have textures any where near the level of detail as the 360. Its a fact. A developer can't use all the ram on the ps3 for graphics. Its there. But it goes against how the ps3 works. DJ, and others try to confuse people about the whole ram issue. Developers can access the split ram yes. But not for graphics. But for other floating point operations that the Cell does.

"Fact 5. Where the 360 leaves the ps3 in the dust is its software and services. xbox live and its xna and direct x 10 capabilities. Its light years beyond the ps3. MS is a software company. They have the best developement tools on the planet for games. Its clear. Couple that with the most powerful GPU and CPU. WOW. Now you can understand why the 360 games look and play better than the ps3 games. And it will only get better.

The war is over. History clearly states that the first to 10 million wins the console generation. But I think this might be the most lopsided first to 10 million in the history of video games. When the ps2 had 10 million the dreamcast had 8 million. Now its 360 with 10 million and the ps3 with at most 800k. WOW. The war is over folks. Really. Its ok. There is always a next time.

Who wants to spend an extra 200 dollars for a failing movie format that actually hurts games with its slow load times?

Sony fans are casual gamers as a whole. Thats why the ps2 was 1.8 games per console. Thats why the ps3 is 1 game per console. 360 gamers are gamers who actually buy and play games. Thats why its over 5 games sold per console. Breaking the previous record held by.....the original xbox. WOW. Interesting indeed.

The Cell obviously isn't great for game code. Developers have gone on record saying it too. Its good for hd video streaming...but not for next gen video game code. Sure they can force a game to run on it. And what you get are games ranging from a score of 1 to 6. Slow downs in every game. Poor graphics compared to the less expensive competition...ect....

Do I think there will be games on the HD dvd? I hope not. Sure its convenient to have a game on one disc....but the load times would decrease all throughout the game. I can't stand long load times. Most 360 games load seamlessly and fast. Now, ps3 games load horribly slow. If a game needs to be 30 gigs....no problem. Just do what they did for Blue Dragon. Fast load times and change the disc once every 20 hours. No problem here. I always said disc space would never be an issue with the 360. If a dev needs 30 gigs for a game. There is absolutely nothing stopping them on the 360. Thanks Microsoft.

U know u're really funny?? u've typed all this bull 2 make ur self feel like u didnt buy the wrong console.. Spike Tv = American = MS pay me and I'll lick ur ass = they trynna sell their piece of sh*t console. but overall ps3 will take over again like the ps2 did, america rides every d*ck that hits the top and once we're in march ps3 will be on the top like uselly, so americans will take off their pants again and ride it like the times before, remember when u rode sony's d*ck in 2000?? yes u do cus ur assss hole still hurts thats why u hate sony that much now (u lookin for a green d*ck now??).. now get the hell outta here before u embarrass ur self even more..

just 20% of the PS3 and its allready lookin like that, wow the take over is here.. and my friend owns a 360 and he told me that they've used 90% of the 360s power 2 make gears of war so that means they'll stop there its over no more improvemnt, cus they can't use 100%, nobody have done it and nobody will.. so yea u wont see something bettah on the 360 and that means gow2 will look the same as the first (crap) they're not smart, cus uselly devlopers saves something for the next title of the series, but ms is 2 stupid 2 think that far they've used all 2 make the ps3 fail and it turned out that ps3 didnt fail and nobody both more of that piece of sh*t console cus of that game, just the greenbots who had it from before both the game .. I feel sorry for u xbots, and ur console feels like old gen allready, especial when ps2 is sellin bettah.. thats ok, ya can go window shoppin the ps3 when ya find it so ya'll feel a little of what next gen is gonna be...

old news, plain and simple. The devs are saying that they have only tapped thepotential of the ps3. Wait till the devs really understand the CELL and RSX together. Its gonna be over for the 360. I cant wait for motorstorm next year, and many many more.
PLAY B3YOND.

At this present time. But keep watching. It will change. It will have to.
MS will realease a firmware update adding game capabilities for hd-dvd. It's just a matter of time. not hard to do, actually.

DJ, I want to play a little game....

You name your biggest PS3 gripe, and I'll tell you mine with the 360. Option open to others just keep it civilized and brief.

over to hd DVD. but no that just aint gonna happen.

REASON 1 MS assured all xbox360 owners that the HD DVD drive is MOVIES ONLY

REASON 2 its data specs are worst than blu ray. well at least the tranfer speeds are

REASON 3 you said it yourself, a dev would release a game on multiple discs rather pay the extra costs of switching to a new UNPROVEN format

REASON 4 even though Hd DVD and standard DVD have the same production costs, they are still different formats which mean that a developer would have to TWO different production lines. which means it cost 3 times (1 HDdvd: 2 DVDs takes twice as long to complete a whole package) more to produce a SINGLE game title. with this info in mind, no game dev will start HD DVD production along with DVD production. its one or the other

Off topic

why are you comparing the core 360 with the 60GB PS3?

Why does so many ppl think 256MBx2(PS3) is worst than 512MB(360)? if any one that thinks the that in they need to read a book. there is no way hell the 360 will access all 512Mb and ram. what would be left for the CPU NONE. in fact it should be the oppisite. the last time i looked at the 360's acrhitecture, the CPU AND GPU go the same resources just to get to the RAM. while the ps3 (supposedly) has them seperated and bridged. to put this even simpler, take 3 water bottles, 2 of the same size and 1 that is twice as bigg as 1 of the other 2 bottles. fill them up with water and turn all 3 upside down at the same time. see switch drains faster, the pair of bottles or the really big one.

"Fact 5. The Ps3 will never be able to match the 360's online capabilities and next gen gaming experiences. XNA coupled with direct x 10 capabilities will continue to push the 360 beyond what the ps3 could even dream about doing in games."

i agree with the 1st sentence. XBlive kicks major a$$. the last 2 are in left field buddy

"And I have been saying the War is over"

They definitly lost the battle but not the war. the only way they will lose the war is if the PS3 lost the rest of its exclusives t the Wii and or 360

"Blu Ray a is failing movie format "

if so, it can still be a proprietary format

"Maybe thats why sony consoles only average 1 game sold per console. ha ha ha ha ha... Meanwhile 360 owners buy 5.3 games per console"

NO thats not because the PS3 sucks. its because when these people bought the PS3 they KNEW wut they were going to buy then and for later releases. most XBOX360 fans (at launch) didnt know what the hell to buy. that launch line up wasnt all that great either

"Cell processor that is clearly not opttimal for game code"

??? that has to be the most ignorant statement i have ever read from you. you can let people lie to you all you want, but Code is optimized for what ever it is programed to work on, which is why ports from the 360 SUCK on the PS3.

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yea its no problem for MS, but the principle behind it would be so F'd-UP. how are you gonna tell your fans that you specifically NOT going to do some but do it anyway. that MEANs that you would have a to buy a NEW 360 AT FULL PRICE or buy an ADDON THAT IS $100 upwards to $250. games on hd dvd for the xbox360 is a is a definite no

I use the by-weight method when picking a game console. whichever system weighs the most, most likely has the coolest gadgets inside, therefore i will buy a ps3 based on that assumption.

Ps: your all a bunch of conformists

You know how they say that we only use 20% of our consoles? I think we only use 20% of our hearts...

nevermind

"Pay for a demo!? Pah! That would never happen."

Guess the $5 to pre-order Destiny for the Beta does not count now. People have paid for demos. I only say do it on a pre-order only.

I bought Zone of the Enders for the Metal Gear Solid 2 demo.

Prior to that, I bought the issue of OPM ($8) for the original Metal Gear Solid demo. I had to play that action.

what? The only demos I ever paid for and will pay for came with a magazine. Man I loved those days.

Bioshock had the best demo I've ever played. It was so impressive, and captured all the best parts of the game. Apart from the ending.

Ironically I would consider paying for a FIFA demo. If it meant that it no longer quit to the dashboard at half time. If I could just hit "play again" at that point I would have all the football simulation I need, and happily just play the demo instead of buying the full product.

Knife fight beat me to it. I paid 90 bucks to play the mgs 2 demo. I probably played more hours on the demo than I did in the actual game, and zone of enders turned out to be great as well.

Crackdown was one of my favourite games of last generation, but I would never have paid for a demo of it. EA is just find new ways to charge gamers out of every orifice.

In the old days we had to pay for them via magazines but no way in this day and age.

Is this seriously an attempt to justify that "Glitch" EA had?

And no I would not pay a cent for any demo.

The only way I would pay for a "demo" was if it gave me some free content if I unlocked the full game and if it was more of a 2/3 hour trial of the game than a simple demo.

I played the sh1t out of the Just Cause 2 demo

Does Ground Zeroes count?