1170°

BioShock 360 exclusivity deal explained

Exclusivity deals these days are complicated things. When BioShock was originally announced everyone expected it would be released on all suitable platforms, but it ended up being an Xbox 360 exclusive. Throughout the months leading up to its release rumours about a PS3 version were cropping up on an almost daily basis, and videogamer.com tracked down Markus Wilding, International PR director, 2K, to find out what exactly the deal was with BioShock on Xbox 360 and the game now coming to PS3.

Read Full Story >>
videogamer.com
Wildarmsjecht6391d ago

Didn't someone who worked on the 360 version say it was because MS said they would pay for all the marketing if it were timed, letting consumers believe it was only available on the 360, and letting 2k get some much needed relief from marketing costs and hassles? This was said months ago, I believe, anyone else remember?

crck6391d ago

That said MS approach them after some show and as usual offered them the $$$ for timed exclusivity.

StayHigh6391d ago

Microsoft just loves giving money!! In a way I kinda hate them for doing that because its not actually helping us gamers at all..All the great games should be release on the PS3 at least so they can take advantage of hardware and devlopers don't need to limit them self because the storage capacity of DVD's.

I feel like GTA should be at least a bigger game..

pegger246391d ago

I am not attacking you, but to say that the storage limits of the 360 make all games shorter is a bit shortsighted. Any exclusive game is going to use the hardware best, or should at least. But the 360 is not always the limiting factor in development. Things like Uncompressed sound and cgi(MGS4)cut scenes take up a lot of space on those blu ray discs, not to mention the cost and time that goes into developing a game. Not saying that it is a negative to have uncompressed sound, far from it, but those with 7.1 systems are certainly in the minority.
I personally would love to see more exclusive titles so that the developers can spend the time on the game that is necessary to push one specific piece of hardware to the limit, which ever console that may be.

Kaneda6391d ago

I didn't send them any mails or emails to request PS3 version..

kinggeoff6391d ago

That putting games on the PS3 as opposed to the 360 would in any way hinder that game's production from what it potentially could have been, you have to do a great deal more research in order to understand the hardware differences between the two systems. They both have bottlenecks and tons of issues that developers need to overcome when designing a game.

The space limitations argument is totally a fallacy. Compression methods are what drive the industry forward. Not every audio and video codec is as much of a mess as MPEG compression algorithms.

Plenty of space on standard DVDs. If you seriously believe that these games need 50gb of space to be the best they can be, you need to go back to the playground with the rest of the kids and go about your business.

Tomdc6391d ago

Timed exclusives are a safer bet for microsoft. They cost less so there is less risk involved when with a new ip. A lot of full third party exclusives are timed ones that just dont go multiplatform in the end because the companies moved on or they dont think its worth it after, say a year.

jackdoe6391d ago

Yes. It was revealed months ago and assumed by many.

DJ6391d ago

All the cutscenes in MGS4 were done in-game. None of it was pre-rendered (though it's easy to come to that conclusion).

avacadosnorkel6391d ago

get's the disagrees from the XBOX crowd.

LightofDarkness6391d ago (Edited 6391d ago )

There are actually 4 cutscenes identified as pre-rendered in MGS4, most notably the 2 at the end of Act III. These have been proven by the encoding artefacts which can be pointed out at various points by observing the sky, as colour gradients can be clearly seen. Before everyone hits disagree, look it up, or play those scenes for yourself and look for the evidence. Still that proves the videos were slightly compressed, which means they didn't take up much room on the disc.

Sam Fisher6390d ago

but bioshock isnt all that great..story is grade b.. over 70 plasmid, thats dog sh*&. its several plasmids and over 50 upgrades actually. telekinesis is basically gravity gun from half life or any other game. if they make a movie out of this its not gonna be that big of a hit. and 1 important thing aswell, i beat the game. start a new game...um... wheres the stuff i earned in the previous file... u start COMPLETELY new. thats stupid.

+ Show (9) more repliesLast reply 6390d ago
zonetrooper56391d ago

Fixed the editing mistake, you can approve it now.

PenisaurisDix6391d ago (Edited 6391d ago )

If there is more bling on the PS3 edition I will catch this game there. They say it's a classic. Even more confounding to me is I am true fan of System Shock -- why did this game not compel me to play ???

Wildarmsjecht6391d ago

Because you are married to the devil. Yea, I said it. Ronald Reagen = Devil.

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi6391d ago (Edited 6391d ago )

'xBox 360, you can Run, but you can't Hide!!!' ;-D
(or was that 'Sir Ken Kutaragi' who said that) ;)

The Best Version is coming to PS3!!!;-P
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Much good stuff coming to the PS3 it's AMAZING!!! ;-P

PLAYSTATION®3規格ソフトウェアのゲー ム 中にXMB™

Darrius Cole6391d ago

Ronald Reagan does not = A devil;

Ronald Reagan = THE Devil.

Said another way.

I do not mean that The Devil created Ronald Reagan, because before Ronald Reagan there was no Devil.

Pain6391d ago

let me guess u voted for Bush ?

After Reagan your Country went Down hill....

captainjy6391d ago

[yawn...]

Their wasting their time. It will sell a measly 200-300K on the POS3.

Darkwolf6390d ago

dont judge ps3 sales just because the inferior 360 sales were like that..

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 6390d ago
name6391d ago

Why isn't the 360 losing bioshock considered a big blow to the 360?

Stryfeno16391d ago

Maybe because it the first in the first in the series unlike Final Fantasy.

Mc Fadge6391d ago

it's because Sony needs those RPGs

predator6391d ago

cos it is a year later.........

kingme716391d ago

Also because anyone wanting the title and buying the 360 to get it would have done that already. Unlike FFXIII that releases at the same time (or at least as far as we have been told), the consumer then has a choice of which system to buy.

Same principle with MGS4. If it did go to the 360 it wouldn't be as big a deal to Sony because they have already reaped the benefits of selling more consoles.

kevnb6391d ago

1: its a year later
2: microsoft isn't nearly as reliant on exclusives not published by them

-M4verick-6391d ago

Yea Bioshock hasnt been a Xbox franchises for like 15 years and Bioshock is coming to the PS3 a year after it already won GOTY on the XBox 360...unlike FF13 which will ship on launch day in the U.S and Europe on the 360. Quite different.

Leathersoup6391d ago

"Why isn't the 360 losing bioshock considered a big blow to the 360?"

perhaps it's because Xbox 360 owners aren't threatening to throw themselves off of rooftops when other platforms get the games?

I happen to think it's awesome that PS3 owners will get to play Bioshock. Some of my most recent memorable moments in gaming were from playing this game and I think it's silly to refuse that to specific people based on the console they've chosen to purchase.

CaptainHowdy6391d ago

Final Fantasy XI was what exactly?

Nuclearwinter6391d ago

"2: microsoft isn't nearly as reliant on exclusives not published by them "

If anyone is reliant on 3rd party exclusives it's Microsoft.

kevnb6391d ago

oh really, what third party published exclusive is microsoft reliant on?

ukilnme6391d ago

@ Leathersoup

LMAO. I was wondering why it was raining bodies a few days ago.

Foo Skeptic6391d ago

Bioshock has not the quantity of fans Final Fantasy has
Bioshock is good but not as good as Final Fantasy
If I have to choose between those games I would choose Final Fantasy inmediately

beavis4play6391d ago

can you name the "vast" number of 1st party games for microsoft? and i see the word games your playing. in fact, forget naming the games. give us the devs microsoft has working for MGS to produce all the 1st party games they have? i think you're wrong. microsoft depends completely on 3rd party games. their 1st party games are practically non-existant.

bruiser816391d ago

@ 3.10

a better question would be what games have they released besides Halo that are first party to MS, if you can answer that you will know how much they depend on 1st party

zypher6391d ago

well, outside of Halo and Forza (and Perfect Dark Zero lol), just about every exclusive on the 360 is third-party developed. true, Microsoft may have published a lot of them, but they had no hand in development, which is why you're seeing a lot of previously "Only-on 360" games creep up on the PS3. so yes, given their sheer dearth of in-house development, this generation Microsoft seems way more reliant on third-party games, at least more than Sony.

given the two approaches, i think i prefer Sony's. most worthwhile 3rd party games ship day-and-date on both systems, and those that are 360 exclusive still find their way to the PS3. on the other hand, Sony has a catalog of in-house studios that completely trounces Microsofts. unlike Microsoft-published third-party developed exclusives, in-house exclusives remain exclusive. still, i'm a proud PS360 owner, so i'm covered either way.

KLEPTOMANIAC6391d ago

its good to see microsoft losing exclusives and not just ps3

bozobucketeer6391d ago

Like everyone else said, it's a year later, but also because it was out for the PC. Anyone with a decent PC could have played it if they wanted to.

@3.8 - A crappy MMORPG.

Sam Fisher6390d ago

i completely agree and i like xbox 360 alittle more than ps3. but thats b/c im a ff hardcore fan to its fullest

+ Show (15) more repliesLast reply 6390d ago
name6391d ago

And if MGS4 was announced to come out for the 360 in 2009 then it'd be no big deal right?

kevnb6391d ago

it would be nice for xbox owners, but it would be like when mgs2 came to xbox... nobody cared by the time it came out.

-M4verick-6391d ago

Defiantely not as big as FF 13....not even close because PS3 owners would have already played it for a year and a half instead of getting it on the same day.

Show all comments (103)
120°

Next ‘BioShock’ Game Changes Leaders After Development Turmoil

The fourth game in the ‘BioShock’ series has been in development for more than a decade

Read Full Story >>
bloomberg.com
toxic-inferno167d ago

Bioshock is one of my favourites franchises. I love all 3 games and have played each several times. I even have a room in my house that is loosely decorated around the theme of Bioshock (with a Lighthouse, coral models and postcards styled as though they are from both Rapture and Columbus).

And yet I am going to find it extremely difficult to get even remotely excited about any future episode in the series after all the problems this has had in its development cycle.

Leave the franchise alone. Remaster them again if you have to. Then put whatever talent you have to use on something brand new.

Furesis167d ago

Since ken levine isn't involved i'm not surprised what's going on. i'm more excited for his next game which looks like bioshock. Yet he still works under take2 and they are making bioshock 4 without him, strange situation.

toxic-inferno167d ago

Yes. Judas. Looks brilliant, but it's one of those games that seems to never have had a release date. Instead it's had release windows that keep getting pushed back.

Once it's ready, I'll be there for it though. Ken Levine is an excellent developer.

I get the feeling he dissolved Irrational Games simply so that 2k couldn't tell him what to do. It seems it will pay off, but I feel sorry for those who worked as part of Irrational before it was dissolved, who hadn't independently made a name for themselves.

ActualWhiteMan166d ago

He didn’t even want to make 2, that’s why they did it without him.

Rebel_Scum167d ago

tbh it wouldnt be a Bioshock game without development hell. They all had it.

Michiel1989166d ago

bioshock 2 was 2.5 years after 1, so much of a development hell it was......

-Foxtrot167d ago

"Remaster them again if you have to"

Well apparently they were doing a remake but that got cancelled

Relientk77167d ago

It sucks this game is in development hell because I love BioShock and would love a 4th game. I hope it turns out great, but I guess we'll see.

P_Bomb167d ago

Love Bioshock. It’s too bad what’s going on. At least we have Judas.

Yui_Suzumiya166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

It's been in development hell since 2014. This is nothing new. It saddens me because it's one of my favorite series. At this point, Judas may end up releasing first.

BABI-PANGPANG166d ago

Bioshock 4 (if it ever comes out) will probably still look and play like a Bioshock game, but without Kevin, it might miss that spark that made the originals so special. Honestly, Judas might end up feeling more like the real spiritual successor.

50°

Steam Deck Users Delighted as BioShock Remastered Can Be Downloaded for Free with Prime

Learn where you can get BioShock Remastered for free and enjoy playing it on your devices, including the Steam Deck.

130°

Netflix's BioShock Film Still In Development But With A Reduced Budget

Console Creatures writes, "The BioShock film at Netflix is still happening but with a reduced budget."

Read Full Story >>
consolecreatures.com
just_looken538d ago

Remember there past attempts at game based show's i do heck i still remember that teenage resident evil trash fire.

anast537d ago

ha. I almost forgot about that.

Jin_Sakai539d ago

Might as well just cancel it.

just_looken538d ago

Unless its batwoman were they right it off

porkChop539d ago

It's 10 years too late for a BioShock film. The world of Rapture would have been perfect for a film. It's actually a good candidate for proper utilization of 3D, for increased depth rather than bullshit popping out of the screen. It could really show off the underwater city that way. But BioShock as a brand is so irrelevant these days that a film just doesn't make sense. Especially considering it would need a big budget and top notch effects to really take advantage of the IP.

gold_drake539d ago

i agree on the bigger budget. all the cgi they'd need for the background.

but i think it would work better as a show. a movie would be too short to establish the story

TheNamelessOne539d ago

Netflix greenlights anything, so that shows me very little faith in the project. Enough to just crap something out as they're, more and more, known to do.

badkolo538d ago

its where b movies go to live, its run by democrats , dont expect anything good from netflix

Knightofelemia539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

I'll laugh if it turns out to be better then the Borderlands movie

Show all comments (14)