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Tretton On FFXIII

From the sixthaxis : "Our man Kamiboy has written his feelings on the issue (which we're editing for publication tomorrow) but tonight Sony's Jack Tretton has spoken out on FFXIII going to Microsoft's 360. Speaking at a round table, Tretton said Microsoft had spent most of their money "trying to curry favor with third parties".

Clearly, he wasn't aware of the situation and was as shocked as the rest of us. "I guess disappointed is clearly an appropriate term, or surprised," he said, adding that "…we've built up our base and that's where we've chosen to spend our dollars" referring to internal first party development as Sony's alternative.

Whether he was implying that the move to multiplatform for Square Enix was more of a Microsoft-subsidised decision than one guided purely by sales reasons we're not prepared to speculate on."

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pwnsause6526d ago

wow, so that neogaf poster was right, they never saw it coming! :0

Black_Jack6526d ago

damn.. i guess thats just business. :S but i would've thought if sony didn't know they'd try and fight back a little, maybe push for timed exclusivity (when i say that i mean get the localised ps3 version out while the 360 version is being finished off.)

i mean they stated that development on the 360 would start when localisation of the ps3 version begins, its my preconception that localisation would be a much quicker process than developing the game on another platform, even with the multiplat crystal tools, then again i'm not a dev.. so meh!

deeznuts6526d ago

at first it was hard to believe they didn't see it coming, but then Square said themselves, they just decided themselves within days of E3. Not hard to keep that a secret for a coupla days.

solidt126526d ago

Yeah I can't imagine how betrayed Jack felt when he saw that knowing he had to present the next day bummer. Either way Sony still has the best line up of games and as for Square Enix they will be dealt with when the tables turn.

OmegaKulu6526d ago

You guys actually think it's real? you can't believe everything that been said in a PR game....

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hunter216526d ago

MS sure did put a lot of money into this. but i wonder it will be worth it for them?.. or they just want to sabotage the ps3?

cmrbe6526d ago

Its already confirmed that they make a list of PS associated games to poach. MS tactics as a corporation is always about destroying the competition so that they become first instead of blazing their own trail and prove their worth. That is what they do in every industry they enter and why alot of people hate them. I don't see them as evil though. Its just business.

Mikelarry6526d ago

make a fine point there. bubbles. ms is doing if you can beat them stop them from being on top. i think wat ms strategy for this gen is to stop ps3 from winning this time. just imagine if the ps3 wins again when next all 3 release another console everyone is gonna get ps4 first then maybe look at what nintendo has to offer and if they have got spare change quickly browse through what ms games are on sale.

jojo3196526d ago

I totally agree. MS isn't doing anything most successful businesses don't do. It's far cheaper, easier and faster to buy competition then to fight it. Right or wrong, it is what it is.

cmrbe6526d ago

that is true but it would have been great if MS would have done their own thing and and expand their own collection of game franchise. They were more innovative last gen with the xbox. If they done their own thing there would be more quality franchise for all gamers and keep the industry vibrant.

Mikelarry6526d ago

but still lost the console war. bah innovative went out the window last gen now is time to try something old and cut throat which seems to be working

dcbronco6526d ago

It's not Microsoft's fault that Sony delayed their console for Blu-ray. Not their fault that Blu-ray cost so much. Not their fault that the Cell processor is so hard to program for. Companies are going multi-platform because the PS3 cost too much to develop for and it has a smaller install base. You have to sell a lot of copies to make money, and most games don't sell enough. Definitely not new IP. Sony had far more developers last generation, the cost of developing for the Cell and Sony's unwillingness to help those developers hurt PS3. Sony has produced several new game series that didn't sell enough and ended up costing Sony money. Microsoft sold most of the companies that didn't bring in money and instead focused on buying games that they have seen and have a better idea of success, a much smarter plan. The 860 million EA payed for Bioware/Pandemic will net them most likely get them 5-6 games in the five years after the deal. It's cost them an additional 150-200 million to make those games and another 50 million to advertise them. And chances are only 2 will sell over 2 million copies. Microsoft will pay 50 million in exclusivity deals for the two or so that will do the best and still have 810 million in the bank. And then collect $10 per copy in licensing fees. 50 million in exclusivity money to Take2 got MS over a million more in sells, over 100 million in licensing fees in return.

StephanieBBB6525d ago

Microsoft is more than taking advantage of Sony. If anyone of you have seen the cartoon "Dexters laboratory" That is a great way of seeing the console war.

Dexter is Sony
Deedee is Nintendo
and Mandark is Microsoft

Deedee(Nintendo) doesn't care about what the others do it just does it's own "thing". Dexter(Sony) Is inventing new stuff all the time and blazing it's own trail. Mandark(Microsoft) is always looking at Dexter(Sony) to make "better" copies and steal stuff of the new inventions it makes, and Mandark(Microsoft) is madly in love with Deedee(Nintendo) for it's looks and attraction.

ThatCanadianGuy6525d ago

That was the best analogy i've herd in a long while

Bubble Buddy6525d ago

I don't know, they paid a lot for GTA4 exclusive content and lots of people I know are still playing CoD4 :p. Wonder how much Microsoft paid for SE to convert.

dcbronco6525d ago

In a situation like that you still win. No matter what , Sony has to react. Sony now has to start helping developers to keep them exclusive, which they have said they don't like to do. They also don't have as much money to compete in that area. They have to sit back and take it. If they do that, future purchases will be based less on exclusives and price will come into play. Microsoft can beat them to the bottom there. And as games like FF13 and MGS 4come to the 360, it hurts Sony's biggest argument, that the PS3 is far more powerful. Sony has already had to break down and offer movies online, which competes directly with Blu-ray. Making the downloads playable on the PSP hurts Blu-ray even more. Microsoft is forcing Sony to kill itself. Price drops, going with downloadable movies and paying for exclusives will all hurt Sony's profits. Add to that Sony seems to have to do far more PS3 games than they would like and fewer and fewer developers are willing to use the PS3 and it all adds up to Sony having a real problem. Even if Sony catches up in console sells by the time the next generation starts, they will have lost this generation. They will have lost money, just to keep up. Sony would be smarter to except defeat this generation and get ready to move on. Or they need to put less time into developing games and more time making tools to help others develop games on their system. They can't win this generation by making games that sell 250,000 copies and then get packaged as a bundle. That's not going to help them. They need others to be willing to take the risk. And for the fanboys that think I'm wrong, back it up with your wallets. Sony could use the money.

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Drewminati6526d ago

i think the probably did much some cash into it. But they also have to money to spend and the probably believe it's a good investment.

And it also shock the entire world, nobody expected it

Lucreto6526d ago

I hope Sony will try and win it back if they didn't know. If he did know Sony let them take it and it would be far worse.

I love competition over titles but this is more MS tact of coercion. Buying up JRPGs to force the RPG crowd to the 360.

na2ru16526d ago

but, sony e3 was clearly the better.

MS e3 clearly a clusterf*ck full of multiplat

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Final Fantasy and SaGa series veteran Kazuyuki Shindo leaves Square Enix after 27 years

Kazuyuki Shindo, who worked on games including Legend of Mana, Final Fantasy XIII, and SaGa: Emerald Beyond, has left Square Enix.

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972889d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus889d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim888d ago (Edited 888d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda888d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B887d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125888d ago (Edited 888d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981887d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot887d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda887d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot887d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy886d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake889d ago (Edited 889d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay887d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12889d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay887d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183889d ago (Edited 889d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB888d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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