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Bloodborne has now been out a couple of weeks and Dan - a Souls game virgin - has been playing it. Does the series deserve it's cult following or is it a dud?
Ben on the other hand - a Souls fan without a PS4 - is eager to learn what he is missing out on.
Brandon writes: "I could find you 10 companies that have pitched a bloodborne sequel, spinoff, or remake, including my own. It's just not going to happen unless fromsoft decides they want to do it."
Everyone was criticizing Sony for not pushing for the BB remake. Turns out they gave it the green light. The original still holds up really well
Man this just fucking sucks, I respect Miyazaki and Shohida's wishes, but Bluepoint would have been the perfect studio to take on a project like a Bloodborne remake. It's still an absolute masterpiece, but the performance and frame pacing could easily be solved on the current hardware now.
Just days after Sony decided to close remake masters Bluepoint Games, a new report claims that wasn't PlayStation itself that stonewalled the idea of a Bloodborne remake by Bluepoint, but developer FromSoftware.
Sony should have proceeded with Bluepoint remaking Bloodbourne. Or even had the sense to get Bluepoint to make a sequel to Demons Souls. Through the broken Giants gate. It was all thereto build upon.
Idiots
The more information that comes out, it keeps seeming like the studio really was just relying on redoing other people’s work. If they would’ve just had a team working on an original product aside from remaking bloodborne, a god of war game THEY admitted they just couldn’t get off the ground.
They would’ve had more staying power, clearly they were to dependent on being a port and remake company. And last I remember EVERYONE hates Sony for constantly remaking and re-releasing games. Then they also hate Sony for GaaS. But, Sony stops investing in. Both and pivot and they are terrible right?
And what is wrong with that again this industry is full of remasters and remakes and they were the best at it Sony has so many dormant IPS they could have used
You make it sound like remakes and remasters are a bad thing when the industries full of them Sony themselves have remade The Last of Us just this generation
"Sony themselves have remade The Last of Us just this generation"
And received a ton of hate for it. It's not him that's saying it's a bad thing, it's the gaming community at large including this site that, with rare exception, rips Sony apart for doing remakes and remasters.
“You make it sound like remakes and remasters are a bad thing”
They are
“when the industries full of them Sony themselves have remade The Last of Us just this generation”
That’s bad
There's a plethora of PS3 games that could do with being remade. inFamous series, MotorStorm series, Resistance series, all the PS Eye games w/VR updates, Heavenly Sword, Haze, Killzone series, LBP series, White Knight chronicles, Warhawk. Lots of good things just on PS3 that could be remade for modern consoles and ensure forward compatibility.
All of those games can and probably will be remade in-house and with updates that the original developers want to add to them. Just how the GoW Remake is being done in house with upgraded mechanics.
We gotta stop pretending like this was some type of only Bluepoint could do it. If they could, then they would’ve had the green light.
People are so quick to blame the head as the only issue. But just like with Scalebound, perfect dark and several other games that were promised. The devs bit off more then they could chew. And in a sea of complaints of half baked games, decisions like this are sometimes necessary.
***All of those games can and probably will be remade in-house and with updates that the original developers want to add to them.***
(x) Doubt
1. It's a remake, not a remaster.
2. The other games have already been remastered before BluePoint even joined Sony.
3. BluePoint has been with Sony since 2021 after doing Demon's Souls and did zero remake jobs since there but helped Sony Santa Monica with Ragnarok and didn't succeed on a GoW Live Service game. That's five years of potential not utilized.
4. If Sony didn't use them during those 5 years to do a single remaster, I highly doubt Sony wants the other studios to focus on doing as such when they could instead focus on new games and IPs.
They literally remade shadow of the colossus and demon souls. And still to my point, if Sony Santa Monica is Remaking their own game franchise. Miyazaki stated he would rather do the remake for bloodborne. What makes you think other companies with the umbrella wouldn’t want to remake killzone, infamous and the rest themselves.
If you worked for a company for 5 years, had no original ideas. Failed at the project that was given to you. And your last ditch effort STILL relied on someone else’s work/IP. Why would you expect to keep your job?
That makes no sense and this is literally the most forced hate I’ve seen to date.
***They literally remade shadow of the colossus and demon souls.***
Before Sony bought them. And afterwards? Again, **NOTHING** since purchase in 2021. NOTHING. Five years of nothing.
***What makes you think other companies with the umbrella wouldn’t want to remake killzone, infamous and the rest themselves***
Because if they did, it would be done by now. Santa Monica wanted it with GoW. It's done. They did it last generation. Now, they want to completely remake the first 3 games, not just remaster? Sony is letting them.
Why are they able to do these things but not others? Because they want to do them. Pretty sure Sucker Punch is the golden child of Sony right now. If they wanted to remaster/remake inFamous, Sony would not say no as long as they pump out Ghost games every 3-4 years.
BECAUSE SONY FORCED A GAAS GAME ON A STUDIO NOT EQUIPPED FOR IT, OFCOURSE THEY CANT DO IT YOU DUMB FUCKING CUNT. God you're the grossest sony pony i've seen in a while, anything but blame daddy sony or you're a retard, I'm not sure yet. You thinking that Epstein is the godfather of mtx makes me lean to the latter.
Sounds more like you don’t like a stranger on the internet the. The topic of actual business practices. You also see to have a weird vendetta from me FACTUALLY stating Epstein influenced MTX with activision.
Maybe you need a nap if you think me saying a company that hasn’t made a SINGLE product except someone else’s work may have dug their own grave. But, hey must be a Sony pony for thinking about the whole situation and not just rage bait headlines saying things like Sony made a mistake closing a port company.
Seek help seriously
Seems pretty clear that they’re focused on moving foward and giving us new games ? Sure they can do bloodborn but why go back if it’s already great ?
Every sequel builds upon the successes of previous games. Bluepoint had many games they rebuilt. In which they could have developed sequels to. Sony & Bluepoint should have seen the obvious in front of their eyes. The base assets were all already built. This is an example of severe Managerial failure
Tbh I doubt fromsoftware needs anyone to rebuild a game for them … having to share profits etc . I’m sure they can release it on their own when the timing is right .
Ridiculous. That would be like the Foo Fighters trusting a cover band to create their next album, or like George RR Martin trusting the game of thrones show producers to finish writing the ASOIAF story beyond what the books had covered.
Seems like they’re focused on bringing new games to the table and moving forward instead of clinging to the past ? I understand why the matter is not urgent . bloodborn still holds up pretty good
Sorry for double post the website got major lags nowadays .
I don’t get this
Sony has said they love Bloodborne
Hidetaka Miyazaki loves Bloodborne, it’s like his baby but is super busy with other projects.
Bluepoint pitches a remake like they did with Demons Souls
Sony rejects it because apparently Miyazaki wants to work on it himself and they want to respect his wishes
Miyazaki decides to do The Duskbloods instead…on the Nintendo Switch 2
I don’t understand the issue here, is Miyazaki annoyed with Sony or something. Are those rumours about him not being happy with the Demons Souls remake true? Like this could have happened years ago if they wanted, it should have been the next project after Elden Ring. It’s sad because if Bluepoint was allowed to do this it might have saved them from being shut down.
Seemingly Miyazaki had conflicted feelings about Bluepoint’s Demons Souls Remake. IMO all Miyazaki Souls games could learn from Bluepoint’s aesthetic approach/detail/refinement of the originals.
Sour grapes
Fans of the original generally don’t agree with this sentiment though. Bluepoint got a lot of things completely wrong and took away from the atmosphere of the original. It’s weird to say that souls games, which are highly regarded for their unique art direction, should takes notes from the westernized aesthetic changes bluepoint made to their games.
Miyazaki is especially close to bloodborne. He said it is the perfect game that embodies everything he has ever wanted to make and the best of his teams efforts. It’s Sonys game, but do you think they would risk losing him as a dev because they did something he wanted to do himself? It’s like Miyamoto. You think him saying I want to make Mario a space duck in the next entry Nintendo will shoot him down? Some devs have earned that “superstar” status and unfortunately Miyazaki will have to leave gaming, one way or another, or decide the time is right to do it himself. Look at what’s going on with the metal gear series now when you have pissed off the GUY. Exactly. Nothing.
I’m relieved Bluepoint will never touch Bloodborne. Have a look into what Bluepoint changed from an artistic perspective in the Demon’s Souls remake. Those changes are an affront to god and should be damn near illegal. Bloodborne would’ve better served with a framerate and resolution patch.
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