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Ars Technica: Killzone 2 Preview: presently polished, pretty, predictable

Ars Technica writes: "'F*** that sh*t,' exclaimed Sony Computer Entertainment Europe's Stuart Tilley as I played through the single-player Killzone 2 demo at Sony's private E3 meeting room. The words came in response to my questioning of the shooter's potential inclusion of old-school corridor shooter mechanics like on-rails vehicular sections. "Killzone 2 is about grabbing a gun and kicking f***ing ass," he continued. "Oh, and doing it with a game that's just beautiful to look at."

Killzone 2 is a lot like Gears of War: it's a beautiful game that is the epitome of its genre in one tight package. At its core, it's simply an extremely polished version of the same games we've been playing for so long. And while Killzone 2 certainly looks amazing in motion-Tilley made a point of saying that the game's developers in Geurilla had definitely silenced the naysayers of the original trailer-it's still, at its core, just another FPS."

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Fishy Fingers6507d ago

As a huge FPS fan, no first person shooter is "Just another FPS". Sure the formula is the same, gun at the bottom, enemy in front. But the feel or experiences can vary as much as any other genre. They all have those small subtle difference that when put together add up to something much bigger.

I'm not after "revolution", I like the formula, I'm looking for progression, and in Killzone I believe I'll find it by the bucket load.

FantasyStar6507d ago

I like your phrase. You don't mind if I quote you right?

Kleptic6507d ago

some good comments at the source's wall...some one points out 'what makes a great fps', and the writer makes it very clear that he is a halo nut...

most of us understand that Halo 1 did a ton for the genre, especially for console controls...but Halo 3?...no...it added some cool community features, but that was it...the innovation came 7 years ago in the gameplay department...and little has changed since...which isn't a bad thing...just giving my thoughts on why its unfair to criticize some shooters on 'not being innovative', but then give Halo 3 a 9.5...

also, the writer points out that the lean and peak cover system worked flawlessly, and saved his ass numerous times...this is something NEVER put in a shooter before...that makes it an innovation...and one, that from his own mouth, works beautifully...he then goes on about how linear this level of the single player game is, and claims that the single player will make or break the title...knowing next to nothing about MP for it...

which is another pre-rendered opinion...CoD 4 was easily the best and most played shooter of 2007...it did nothing new...and had a very scripted single player with the same lame checkpoints and triggers from EVERY CoD game to date...yet the gameplay and action and visuals just fit right...but MP in a shooter is almost more important now than the single player aspect...the campaign has to be good...but the mulitplayer has to be as addictive as prescription pain meds...CoD 4 had a decent, but extremely short, SP...and a near flawless MP (although the game still requires some balancing in that regard)...

we will see how the MP turns out...but the game is looking extremely impressive so far...and if the innovations the game introduces work 'perfectly'...I really don't see what the problem is...

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Beg For Mercy6507d ago

how they can say its just another first person shooter with the new first person cover system that has never been done before in a fps game, the hit response system,this game has a lot more to offer than just graphics.

Topshelfcheese6507d ago

I have to say, I wasn't thinking the game was looking that great graphically, until I saw it yesterday in that hands-on demo. I can't pinpoint what exactly change, but it really got me excited to play it now, and the online stuff sounds great.

Fishy Fingers6507d ago (Edited 6507d ago )

Your wait maybe shorter than you think. Watch this > http://www.n4g.com/events_e...

About 3/4 in the Sony guy said and I quote "public beta". Funny though the interviewer completely skips over it and it isnt mentioned again. But its there. I'm keeping my ear to the ground (eye on n4g o_O) for this one. beta beta beta....

Oh also mentions one more Killzone related secret to be released during E3, did he let that secret slip?

Kleptic6507d ago

yeah great point...I caught that too about details being dropped each day on KZ2's MP...my guess is that by the end of it there will be sign-ups online for the beta...

that will be a tough one to get into for sure though...

everytime I see this game I get more impressed by it...no offense to Insomniac...I liked Resistance 1...and resistance 2 is looking great so far as well...but this is easily at the top of my list for most anticipated game...

RealityCheck6507d ago

I would rather play "just another FPS" than pretend to play music with Wii Music. It takes many genre to please everyone, don't take our FPS away.

klashawnd6507d ago

What do you want? Was Halo 3 just another FPS? All it was was Halo 2.5 with Forge.

Did he preview Gears 2? Is that just another TPS?

And what was so "innovative" about GTA4? That game wasn't even as good as San Andreas if you ask me.

These people drive me crazy when they place and project their own expectations for what a game should be into their reviews/previews and not take a game for what it is.

Killzone 2 doesn't have to be the FPS to end all FPSs. It just needs to be fun in all aspects. Gears is fun as hell. Halo is fun as hell. Warhawk is fun as hell. That's all that really matters in the end.

Kleptic6507d ago

GTA peaked at Vice City imo...and yeah GTAIV was only better than GTAIII...

gimping features that were loved in the past, and giving the lamest gun lineup of any GTA game to date...and have a somewhat broken camera/driving mechanic...yeah, it might be the most overrated game of this generation imo...right up there with Halo 3...

vasilisk6507d ago

Let's not forget COD4. Where's the innovation in it? Who can name a truly innovative FPS the last couple of yeras. Where's the innovation in Battlefield? But when it comes to killzone everyone goes "just another FPS", "not innovative", "polished but just an FPS".
What did they expect, the second coming? It's an FPS for God's shake and it looks like no other out there...

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman564d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX564d ago (Edited 564d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne564d ago (Edited 564d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro564d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken564d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown564d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72564d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken564d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya564d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast564d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood564d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX793d ago (Edited 793d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro793d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72793d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_793d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga793d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos793d ago (Edited 793d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23793d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000793d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin793d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole793d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix793d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989793d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor793d ago (Edited 793d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989793d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1097d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1097d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1097d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1097d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491097d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381097d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1097d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1097d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381097d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1097d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761097d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1097d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301097d ago (Edited 1097d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1097d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1097d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1097d ago (Edited 1097d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1097d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1097d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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