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Microsoft (Still) Hasn’t Given up on Kinect

GamesRadar - It might have fallen off the standard Xbox One bundle and into the realms of a separate purchase but Microsoft still isn’t giving up on Kinect just yet. In an interview in the new issue of Edge Magazine, Xbox’s Phil Spencer is enthusiastic about the peripheral and adamant about its place with Xbox One, even if it has had a rocky start.

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ThinkThink4036d ago

Well that's good to hear considering I use it everyday. I'm not saying I want every game to use it (because i don't) but keep a handful of creative, fun games coming my way every year and I'm happy. That and continue introducing new features for it. I'm curious to see how the PC community and indie teams get creative with it in the coming years.

Foehammer4036d ago

Same here

Even when I have the controller in my hand I often blurt out a voice command....

it's become 2nd nature now

saying what you want just seems normal

Shame my oven doesn't work the same way.

lameguy4035d ago

Sure, commands/Skype/twitch/whatever . Just keep it away from games...

LifeInNZ4035d ago

@lameguy

I have no problem with Kinect being used to augment a gaming experience. Head tracking, voice activated gps, detecting how you react to change whats going on in a game. Dont mind occassional casual games like fruit ninja 2 or fitness programs. As long as its strengths are exploited and not forced to work for a game then I have no problem with Kinect at all.

Gazondaily4035d ago (Edited 4035d ago )

Same here too. Its a brilliant device for other services.

It still feels pretty cool just walking into a room and saying Xbox On. I do it every morning when Im having breakfast.

And its faster than a controller as well when you want to snap something. So I can just say xbox snap Skype or snap party etc.

My mic broke so have been using the Kinect and its impressive how it cancels out all the sound coming from the tv and relays my voice to others.

Core gaming applications are pretty much non existent for me on this.

Bigpappy4036d ago

Yep. I bought my full package at launch. If my Kinect were to break, I will try and replace it same day. I have many uses for it with or without games.

AngelicIceDiamond4035d ago

@Think That's a fair statement. Even though I'm not a big fan of Kinect as well as many others doesn't mean MS shouldn't release some creative fun games.

Kinect Fruit Ninja 2 was casually announced by MS on a regular day and released like what, a month later?

Anybody wants it can download it. Have it been last gen MS would had a 10mill+ ad campaign for it and force it down our throats.

rawrock4035d ago

Exactly, I love my Kinect for voice commands and interacting with the AI. Its a cool thing, just not for actual games...

700p4035d ago

Also its like this, why would they give up on a product that was relatively successful. It was popular on 360 and used by many hospitals etc.

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INTOmyMOUTH4035d ago

I am more than comfortable using mine. Can't get xbox on to work at all times but I'm working on that. Like previous poster, I have controller in hand and I still bark out commands at kinect. It's handy and fun and quite honestly that may be just good enough by me.

Sm00thop4035d ago

Kinect has got its uses, its just not the best for games. I would say its definitely worth paying the little extra in the bundle to have it.

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WeAreLegion4035d ago (Edited 4035d ago )

Bought a Kinect for my XBO last week. Had it about three days before I took it back. If I had dozens of games on the system, it would make sense to use it for navigation, but I don't. I know that because I use the PS Camera for navigation. It's a great feature and something I think is great if you have enough games on either system.

However, it was just too sporadic for me to use it for anything else. So, I returned it.

I hooked it up to my cable box, but it's just as quick and simple without hooking the thing through the Xbox One.

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Phil Spencer Was Good for Xbox, but His Legacy Is Complicated

Was Phil Spencer good for Xbox? Whatever you think of the retiring boss’s decade-plus tenure, there was rarely a dull moment.

Lightning7745d ago

Too soon to say. What if things are more of the same? That's my biggest fear.

KyRo44d ago

You don't get rid of big portions of a division to replace them to do the same thing. MS has been critical of Xbox for a few years now.

As a Sony fan, I hope they can bring competition back to Sony because I think Sony have become very complacent the generation. They haven't had time try and whilst there's been a few good exclusives, nothing on the level or as memorable as previous PS generations.

S2Killinit44d ago

I disagree with your blanket statement but overall yeah I think they need to step up more. However, I’m not sure that has anything with xbox but rather with the disruptions we had at the beginning of the generation. Covid, and then the shortage in chips, then the ram…

MrDead44d ago

Yes the industry and it's workforce thank Phil for the massive industry consolidation, thousands fired and still being fired because of MS buyups and for making people like Bobby Kotick even richer.

Reaper22_44d ago

Thats true. Bobby did get a little richer. But name a CEO who isn't rich or getting richer. When I look around the industry I see a bunch of people getting fired. Not just from Microsoft. That is, unless you think the devs from Bluepoint deserved to be fired. Unfortunately, things like this will continue to happen whether you like it or not.

MrDead43d ago

Can you list other companies that are doing mass layoffs because of spending $80 billion on massive industry consolidation? Can you list other companies that purchased two of the largest publishers to make the industry less competitive?

Your fangirling over MS's corporate greed doesn't work on me kid, it does expose you though.

CrashMania44d ago

Was he? It became slightly better after he took over, but it turned in to a gen of just halo gears and forza. And he tried to monopolise massive parts of the industry with ridiculous acquisitions that ironically lead to the opposite, a near complete collapse of xbox console sales, and putting their tentpole IPs everywhere, all but abandoning xbox consoles going forward for a PC disguised like one.

Reaper22_44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Id say his legacy is complicated, but if you focus on all the bad and ignore the positive things anyone can seem bad. He did have some positive impacts on the xbox platform.
Launched and grew Gamepass-
Invested in backwards compatibilty enabling thousands of older titles to play on modern hardware-
Grew the xbox box first party lineup
Brought xbox into the PC space
Hardware and feature improvements for xbox consoles
Pushed for cross-play support

And there's more but if you asked xbox gamers they'd say that he is viewed as overall a positive thing for the brand. No one expects non xbox gamers to say many positive things about him or the brand. Project Helix happened under his leadership and that is seen as a positive for the brand too.

SonyStyled43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Launching and growing Gamepass as a positive? When it was $1 absolutely! This is also what fueled the death of Xbox as the standard living room console

TiredGamer44d ago

Agree. With how XBox imploded after the attempt to monopolize the industry, and one of the worst launches of a new console, we might be edging to Phil being a disaster to Xbox in the long run.

MDTunkown44d ago

He was good the first 6 months as the lead

Agent7543d ago

Then he forgot about the games. Poor Phil.

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Phil Spencer Retiring, Sarah Bond Out, Microsoft AI Exec Asha Sharma Named New Xbox Boss

Big changes are being made at the top of Microsoft's gaming division.

CrashMania64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

MS knack for one upping bad news from other companies so soon afterwards is pretty astounding lol. Can't say I'm surprised though, this gen has been dreadful for the xbox brand.

Being replaced by an AI boss exec though, yikes.

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-Foxtrot64d ago

I always had this theory that they both wait to see if the other announces something bad so they can announce their bad thing, thus the two talking points bleed together enough to cause overall confusion online.

It then becomes just a big bad thing for the industry rather than a specific company. Wouldn't be surprised if Ubisoft were up next again at this point.

Eonjay64d ago

I have to agree with you. As if this decision was made today. Yeah right lol

darthv7264d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Huh... well that is sure interesting.

@crash, is it bad news though? I mean many here have said he needed to leave... now he and Bond are leaving. That should be good news to some.

Extermin8or3_64d ago

It's more the fact the person incharge of AI being taking over. That's a very deliberate decision.

Profchaos64d ago

Xbox fans have wanted Phil gone for a long time he's probably the least favourite exec of all time behind matrick purely because uber his leadership he decived fans and took the Xbox brand multiplatform

badz14964d ago

Indian takeover of Microsoft

PapaBop64d ago

Considering MS's obsession with ai, this is probably a demotion for her. Still, I enjoy poking fun at Spencer but ultimately it's sad to see him go, he's made mistakes for sure but I think he genuinely cared about the Xbox brand. Sharma seems very corporate to me and certainly not the Spencer replacement Xbox fans would have hoped for.

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Neonridr64d ago

maybe some new blood can help improve things.

Sitdown64d ago

That's not what us happening here, push for AI.

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Sonic188164d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Wow 😂 Sarah Bond is more of a surprise

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-Foxtrot64d ago

I'm convinced "early retirement" is just them wanting to save both themselves the embarrassment and them getting forced out without the drama.

You bow out naturally while we make it all look like it's part of the plan, both of us look as competent as we can make out during the fallout

Jim Ryan was the exactly the same.

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A0764d ago

“ Phil has 3 days to clean out his office?”

Why spread fake news? The press release clearly says that Phil and Sarah are staying on throughout the summer to advise the new person.

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We spoke to Phil Spencer about the next Xbox, Kojima's OD, and the future of Halo

Here, we spoke with Phil Spencer about his outlook for the future, including discussing the new information revealed at the "Xbox Tokyo Game Show 2025 Broadcast" held on the first day of the Tokyo Game Show.

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rakentaja183d ago

They are integrating everything into one platform (PC-like experience), that says it all. There is no longer a regular Xbox console, games are installed from Steam etc. on the next console/PC hybrid [if desired].

shinXseijuro183d ago

If the rog costs over 1000k with the tax and shipping included to Canadian consumers , what will the hybrid Xbox / pc cost ? If I were to go fully pc next gen I wouldn’t want to be locked behind an ecosystem after putting over 1000k out for the console/pc/hybrid . It’s already off to a bad start

shadowfax33182d ago

the screen itself was key factor for Xbox ally x final retail price..the console wont have it.

but even if it did cost 1000$, if it can play new PC games in high settings then price is kinda justified.

shadowfax33182d ago

the screen itself was key factor for Xbox ally x final retail price..the console wont have it.
but even if it did cost 1000$, if it can play new PC games in high settings then price is kinda justified.

Eonjay182d ago

If it cost that much if better be upgradable otherwise it won't have the biggest advantages of either PC (upgradeability) or console (price/performance).

DarXyde182d ago

And this is the point I don't think Microsoft understands. Investing in their ecosystem after 2025 doesn't make sense to me. People playing on console are going to look at this price and scoff. It is probably also too late to make an ultra-powerful console: visual fidelity and frame rates are really in a good spot right now. With next generation platforms, no one should really be expecting anything astronomical. That will take serious power and the hardware to do that is simply not practical, especially in this economy with this US president.

Launching this thing has exclusively one benefit: You can play PlayStation and PC-exclusive games on Xbox (assuming it really does allow for Steam). But even then, why would any spend this much on static hardware?

I don't get this direction at all. Maybe they really do have pressure to get that 30% profit margin. If that's the case, I wouldn't count on them cutting down the price of hardware and selling it at a steep loss by allowing games on other platforms. But hey, they're the trillion-dollar company, so I might be just be talking about something I don't understand.

gold_drake182d ago

love how confident they are in their absolute idiocy

dveio182d ago

A console primarily is a choice by budget. And people have

• different budgets and
• only even want to spend different budgets

I think it's a bad business choice them leaving the console business.

And in turn a good business choice from Sony to keep building a classic home console with PS6. (Which I highly doubt won't even exceed nor even touch PS5 Pro's release price.)

When they bought Zenimax and ActivisionBlizzardKing, they should have upped their Xbox support program to 100bn and spend the rest of it for building studios & creating new games, giving their developers freedom & full creative control.

But they hit the roof at 75bn. This was it.

And then went to maximize profits by 30% starting Fall 2023, according to Bloomberg, and put their bets only on "Call of Duty in Gamepass will do".

I can already picture their next premium Xbox failing at a 90:10 chance.

Dark-soul182d ago

Not budged, if i want i can buy pc for 10k , but i prefer consoles, because games are better optimized on consoles and more cozy to sit in couch and play on huge 2 meter tv and have dolby atmos setup + ps5 controller is cool + nostalgia = i will always play on consoles

dveio182d ago

"Not budged, if i want i can buy pc for 10k“

Yeah. That's my second point above, like "or only even want to spend a specific budget".

But console gaming, no matter the direction of people's reasons, is a budget choice.

There's been a market for "a gaming box cheaper than a top gaming PC" for almost 40 years now.

And it will continue to exist.

Miraak82 182d ago

Optimized doesn't really mean better or the best version or experience you can have though . I'm ready to get into PC gaming again soon as I really don't want to play most new games on my base PS5, having to choose between gfx and performance is such a drag as choosing either/or is a hindered experience and I've felt it for some time now . I could waste money on a Pro or timegate myself till the ps6 comes out but I think I'm gonna step into the future now.

I'm like the complete opposite of you as my console setup is like a PC setup with a 27 monitor , gamer chair , big desk , headset and even have a KB hooked up to my ps5 .it's so hard to play competitive and mmo games on a big screen lol.

jwillj2k4182d ago

Console gaming is absolutely not just a budget choice. We want the exclusive games, better experience and to support the brands we like. Budgets do come into the picture but this is the same for every industry, including PC’s. This is why “budget gaming pc’s” with similar prices never sell like ps/nintendo.

Jin_Sakai182d ago

Another Xbox console will be DOA. Just stick to making games and leave the hardware behind. Xbox is over.

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