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Tech Analysis: Final Fantasy 15 Episode Duscae

Eurogamer:
Digital Foundry investigates Square-Enix's progress on PS4 and Xbox One.

As expected, it's immediately apparent that we're looking at a sub-1080p presentation here. We peg the PlayStation 4 version at 1600x900 while the Xbox One version turns in an even lower 1408x792. Both versions show plenty of aliasing in select conditions but, on the whole, the game's more natural environments appear surprisingly clean with a strong depth of field effect helping to keep shimmering at bay. Edge-smoothing is rather inconsistent, however, with certain elements lacking any sort of anti-aliasing coverage at all. There's no doubt that the game will benefit greatly from a bump up to full 1080p.

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never4get4088d ago

Final Fantasy XV builds on DirectX 11, and the PS4 version perform better at higher resolution than the Xbox One.

vishmarx4088d ago

"As expected, it's immediately apparent that we're looking at a sub-1080p presentation here."

the one time they actually notice a difference 1080p and 900p is when there is no 1080p version to compare with.
wow.
also why the hell are they doing this for what is essentially a verticle alice of an alpha?

GameNameFame4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

"As expected, it's immediately apparent that we're looking at a sub-1080p presentation here."

Exactly. I thought some people also say you cant tell those apart. Even DF sometimes play it down. but i guess it is now immediately apparent.

It always have been and always will. You can notice immediate change when your computer goes to 900P and yes. your PC/Monitor upscales it to 1080P. still obvious.

@Never4get.

X1 won't benefit much from DX12 according to MS devs themselves and by Phil anyways.

Don't believe me?

"Under the hood, Forza achieves this by using the efficient low-level APIs already available on Xbox One today. Traditionally this level of efficiency was only available on console – now, Direct3D 12, even in an alpha state, brings this efficiency to PC...."
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dir...

Straight from MS devs who are making DX12.

and from Phil said same.

"if DX12 is gonna dramatically change the graphics capabilities of Xbox One and I said it wouldn’t."

http://wccftech.com/phil-sp...

Pogmathoin4087d ago

Somebody buy this guy an X1..... Legend has it, he was at a funeral..... And was talking about the resolution of the coffin......

Genuine-User4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Resolution and performance;

"As expected, it's immediately apparent that we're looking at a sub-1080p presentation here. We peg the PlayStation 4 version at 1600x900 while the Xbox One version turns in an even lower 1408x792."

"More detrimental to image quality, however, is the rather poor texture filtering used throughout."

"On PlayStation 4, the game turns in a playable, if somewhat unstable level of performance hovering mostly around 30fps with extended drops to 25-28fps during most combat scenarios."

"However, Xbox One turns in a more concerning level of performance. This version already operates at a lower resolution as it is but despite that, the frame-rate falls pretty far below the PS4 version. On average we're looking at a 5fps deficit in comparison, with precious few scenes ever reaching 30fps. The game immediately feels slower and less refined on Microsoft's platform leaving some of the scenarios feeling downright unplayable."

MasterCornholio4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

"This version already operates at a lower resolution as it is but despite that, the frame-rate falls pretty far below the PS4 version."

Thats horrible. I wonder why the Xbox One version is performing so badly. Could it be the GPU?

Anyways this is just an extremely early build of the final product so im sure it will get much better for both versions.

Edit: Holy crap it even drops to 13FPS in the XB1 version. Hopefully they fix that.

Genuine-User4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

I'm not sure to be honest but given the power gap between the two consoles, one is bound to perform worse if parity is not a concern for the publisher/developer.

OrangePowerz4088d ago

I would say either they aren't too good at using the X1 or they just don't intent to downgrade the whole game for parity.

Volkama4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

There is really no need to keep the concern trolling exclusive to one version. Sub -1080p and sub-30fps with low quality AA and poor texture filtering is hardly a stellar result either...

MasterCornholio4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

"There is really no need to keep the concern trolling exclusive to one version."

I criticized both versions. However I focused on the XB1 version because it has framerate drops to 13FPS. Like I said before I'm pretty sure they will fix that.

In conclusion, both versions are bad but the XB1 version is the one with the most issues. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out.

Kingthrash3604088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

@Volkama

It's an alpha so it's not surprising that both aren't at high levels. I've actually seen alphas look much worse ...don't even know why analysis was done...it's like cutting a cake before was even put in the oven. But since they did an analysis and compared both we are going to look at it in comparison. So it's not trolling it's concern about how much the x1 is lacking in the analysis. Running at sub 900 and as low as 15 frames...I'm hoping they don't downgrade the ps4 version because of the x1.

Bigpappy4088d ago

@MasterCornholio: You are putting massive effort into becoming a professional troll. You know this is and early demo, and that right now developers have to do far more optimizing on X1 than they need to on PS4. Yet you are asking about why one is performing better than the other and mentioning Graphics card and 13pfs. Followed by stating what we all know: this will most likely be fixed before release.

If the graphics chip is the problem, how exactly would they be able to fix it before release?

GameNameFame4088d ago

@BigPappy.

Even DF said it prob wont be same because X1 is so far behind.

Also, I thought we already got like 5 secret sauces?

7th CPU unlock, Kinect unlock, OS reduction, some new API from multiple updates ago.

What is really sad is how you buy into those crap and we just got slew of games where X1 is now lower in resolution/graphics/and performance.

LOL. Gap just got increased.

MasterCornholio4087d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

@Bigpappy

"You are putting massive effort into becoming a professional troll."

Well I only stated what was said in the article. Plus what I said about the GPU is true. Thats the main reason why the XB1 version won't be on par with the PS4 version. Plus I've stated many times already that both versions are quite poor but Square will improve them. I wouldn't be surprised if both achieve a steady 30FPS with the only difference being resolution and a few graphical effects. That seems to be the case with most multiplats. That doesn't mean the XB1 version won't be worth buying though since the differences will be tiny between the two.

If you have an issue with my comments you can always use the bubble system to report me. That's what the minus and plus buttons are for.

Just to quote Pyrex because I think he says it best.

"Game is far from finished though"

Which is why I wouldn't worry about either version.

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d_g4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

the Texture quality is very low in this game and the frame rate is bad Specially on Xbox one...but it’s demo and the game in development

i hope the final Version will be alot better

Amubher4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

It is the cost of the demanding, well made features that are mentioned too.

"The time of day cycling is truly above and beyond anything we've seen before in real-time and allows for some incredibly lush vistas. This is enhanced further by the inclusion of a full cloud simulation".

"However, what really brings these characters to life, is the remarkably complex animation system. There is just a tremendous amount of animation in this game and, from what we've gathered, it appears to use some sort of animation AI routine. This helps control how characters move and react to their surroundings by focusing their attention on the expected points of interest. The way characters transition in and out of various actions feels quite natural.."

Optimization sill surly be made as the engine is still in development according to the director.

DragonKnight4088d ago

The running and walking animations look silly though.

Amubher4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

@DragonKnight

incredibly detailed and very varied based on the situation and environment. The animations have a natural flow to them. That is objective.

pyroxxx4088d ago

Game is far from finished though

DemonChicken4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

I lol'd at most comments especially at comments over at kotaku with the "what did you think of FFXV demo"

note keywords demo, game isn't finished, this is probably like not even alpha gameplay and people are complaining about glitches and framerates, etc.

don't see the need to analyse so deep into something and then with people moaning fuming wars over it considering it's not even the finished product.

http://www.filmschoolreject...

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P_Bomb387d ago

Immediately thought of the El Dorado zombie dudes in Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune.

raWfodog387d ago (Edited 387d ago )

Not necessarily a ‘horror’ moment, but I remember feeling really tense and anxious when the Flood were first introduced in the original Halo. I never felt more on edge or nervous in that whole game as that moment. I think it was the whole buildup that something terrible was coming but you didn’t know exactly what.

Another non-horror game that had me feeling it was Subnautica. The deep dark depths, and knowing that sea monsters were lurking nearby, had me jumping at every sound.

NettosGameRoom387d ago

That scene where you first see them attack is pretty crazy!

Relientk77387d ago

I remember being scared of the Asylum level in the most recent Thief game from 2014.

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gold_drake522d ago

always liked 15, but the development was shch a shitshow. it could have been so much more.

but Tabata did a good job with what he had regardless

DivineHand125521d ago

Ff15 was a missed opportunity from square as they transitioned from turn based to real time.

One of the issues is that it was 30 fps. The combat mechanics required precision dodges to activate Noctis teleport ability and it was difficult to do at 30 fps. I am glad they rectified that in FF16. The story and flow also felt like it went through a chopshop similar to how some live service games end up when they are trying to meet a deadline. Those extra episodes they sold as dlc should have been in the maingame.

FF15 is one of the weaker entries in the series.

Z501521d ago

Dodges don't activate the teleport ability. Teleport was R1 + O. Dodge was just the O button. Explain the Black Hood (the item that automatically Dodges for you)

TheNamelessOne521d ago

Ah yes; FF XV.
The beginning of me coming to the realization the series was no longer for me.

Michiel1989521d ago

16 was a lot better, I think 15 was just a big mess with how development went and all. The music though, one of the best in the series, probably the only reason I finished the game.

Cacabunga521d ago

At least FF15 had RPG elements . 16 was just an action game from beginning to end.

Michiel1989521d ago

I rather have a good action game than a bad rpg with 2 button combat

Cacabunga521d ago (Edited 521d ago )

Then call it something else then FF. I got scammed with FF16. Nothing of what i expected it to be.
Even the action is bad in it, especially after the demo section where absolutely nothing happens until the very end.

FF15 isnt a great game but it has some variety at least.

CrimsonWing69521d ago

That initial trailer with the Leviathan fight was the game I wish we got. The actual retail release was watchdogged to all Hell and while there’s enjoyment to be had in the game, it’s such an incomplete product and so many elements feel so slapped together without any cohesion.

Like, don’t get me wrong, I loved fishing, cooking, and the first third of the game, but I much rather they made a story that didn’t feel barely there and the the last third of the game didn’t feel so rushed and unfinished.

Becuzisaid521d ago

Every time a party member left for a period of time screamed future paid dlc. It was horrible.

Imagine Dagger and Steiner making the party go to sleep in Lindblum in FF9 disc 1 and then taking off to Alexandria by foot themselves, but then never playing their side of the adventure in disc 2 when they smuggle her through the South Gate in pickles, take the cable car and fight the Waltz, head to Treno and start the quest to find Supersoft. They just eventually reunite with the main party in the future without explanation of what went on in their adventure.

Or Sephiroth's backstory in the famous Kalm flashback being added as a dlc pack. Same goes for Vincent, Cid, or Yuffie for that matter.

Oh and anything to do with Jenova, the Ancients, Aerith, her mom and Gast, shoved into a 2 hour CG movie or 5 hour anime ministries that's considered required viewing for anything in the main game to make sense or have characters actually be interesting.

I enjoyed FF15 at the time, and finished it, but it's bright spots are marred by a bad development cycle and a worse marketing scheme.

CrimsonWing69521d ago

What’s sad is when I watched a vid on the entire story (that wasn’t properly told in the actual game)!it was really solid and could’ve been one of the most epic stories in any FF. I think a lot of the compilation and cross-media stuff really f*cked it all up.

gurp521d ago

FFXV was underrated in my opinion
I have played all of the final fantasy games, and I loved this game
turn based to me takes too long, I like active battle
the extra dlc and chapters should have been included in the original release, but it is nice that they fixed the game later

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gold_drake774d ago

crazy, glad i own the ones i wanted to revisit and play

ChasterMies773d ago

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Final Fantasy VIII Remastered
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Sundered Eldritch Edition
The Artful Escape
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This Is The Police 2
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Asterphoenix773d ago

Glad that I absolutely can't stand subscription services.

Petebloodyonion773d ago (Edited 773d ago )

I don't recall Sony forcing you to subscribe like nobody forced you to go to Blockbuster to rent games instead of buying them.

SonyStyled773d ago

Pay-per-view was almost cheaper than the cost of gas and rental fee from Blockbuster. Blockbuster doesn’t exist today. Are you being sarcastic?