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Microsoft: HoloLens Doesn't 'lock out' Xbox VR

VRFocus - Ever since Microsoft revealed its HoloLens augmented reality (AR) head-mounted display (HMD) earlier in 2015, many have assumed that this was the company's answer to virtual reality (VR) HMDs such as the Oculus Rift and Project Morpheus. In fact, the company even went as far as to invite Oculus VR to work with it on HoloLens at its announcement. However, Microsoft's work with HoloLens doesn't necessarily mean that it won't be working on Xbox VR, perhaps for its Xbox One console.

tinynuggins4120d ago

I hope they don't make their own. I would rather they partner with Oculus for VR and do their own thing with Hololens.

iamnsuperman4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

For a company like Microsoft, making their own is the only logical way forward. Partnership with Oculus would never happen since it would require Microsoft to leave the VR capabilities up to someone else. Microsoft is too big to do that

breakpad4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

i think they will partner with Occulus ...is the best logical approach (especially if they invited them to check HoloLens) they are both american companies and there are many VR (wiht strong RD teams behind them) in development for MS to compete

VenomUK4120d ago

I genuinely think a future iteration of HoloLens could be successful especially with education and business. However right now, the market of manufacturers and software developers are working on VR for leisure (games). This includes Oculus, Valve and Sony and the many companies producing games. The benefit is that VR research can be swapped from one platform to another. So if a developer gets VR game Adrift working on Morpheus then it can easily be converted to Oculus. This means VR has a real chance to grow to become a profitable sub-industry.

However HoloLens AR is different and requires different research so it is effectively carving it's own niche in the industry. I'd love to see Xbox One get in on the VR action but Microsoft would confuse the public if they release HoloLens and a VR headset. Phil Spencer knows there is merit to VR and is perhaps lining up a product for the next Xbox...

blackout4119d ago

With the strong in house work on Surface and now the purchase of Nokia I don't think Microsoft will be outsourcings anything is. On another note isn't Microsoft a major investor in Facebook. Just a thought but anything is possible in this day In age.

Charybdis4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

With windows 10 stuff etc I can see Microsoft supporting different VR devices on the different windows 10 devices including the xbox one. I assume that windows 10 will support multiple VR devices, which might eventually translate into support for the xbox one (also being part of the same ecosystem).
There could be some interesting partnership possibilities for VR display ond the xbox 1. Meanwhile I do hope they will keep doing their own thing with their hololens.

ShottyatLaw4120d ago

I would like the idea of a piece of hardware like Oculus being Windows compatible across my PC and my Xbox.

lemoncake4120d ago

I think we will see them partner with oculus, microsoft are all about trying to create one ecosystem atm.

BallsEye4119d ago

I rather want hololens for XO. Not only because it's way more advanced tech, but because it's a computer on it's own. A lot of people forget VR needs TONS and TONS of processing power to work. You need basically 60 (best 120)fps game n 1080p running TWICE in the same time. Now consoles struggle to pull of good graphics in 1080p/30 so don't expect a good looking VR game on consoles. Hololens however will actually boost XO, as it's a separate computer running on win10, not a peripheral like VR.

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Gazondaily4120d ago

I think they should focus on HoloLens instead of scattering their focus on AR.

christocolus4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

I have always assumed that MS would announce their own VR tech.its been rumored for a while now that MS has been working on other input devices for Xbox.i remember one of the oculus guys also saying MS was one of the companies interested in buying out the tech but they went with Facebook instead.

If MS wasn't interested in VR then why would they make a bid for Oculus?i'm guessing they've been working on theirs or maybe partnered with another company to create a standard VR device capable of working with Kinect2 and maybe Hololens (a partnership similar to what valve and htc are doing with vive).My guess?we will see an announcement at E3..

DigitalRaptor4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

"why would they make a bid for Oculus?"

Because their primary competitor in the console space has an almost consumer-ready VR headset that has been many years in the making, and they have nothing to compare. An idea like HoloLens is something they were probably always going to do regardless of gaming, after Google prototyped their Glass technology. It's something that is more applicable to areas outside gaming than within since gaming is a fraction of their operating structure. VR, it's obvious they won't be doing until Project Morpheus has been their case study.

Bigpappy4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

From my recollection, I believe I have read some one from M$ stating that M$ have put years of research into VR and had several prototypes. If am not mistake, that person was Phil Spencer.

http://123kinect.com/gdc-20...

http://gamingtrend.com/2014...

raymantalk14119d ago

ill just point out to you bigpappy sony was working on VR long before MS came to the gaming market not knocking MS but stating a fact i know you dont like anything sony but this is a truth you cannot deny but i am sure you gonna try :)

bleedsoe9mm4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

or not bother with either and make great exclusives i can play on my tv . i've got a bad feeling ms and sony's E3 are going to be VR heavy .

UnHoly_One4120d ago

Don't waste your time, Microsoft, VR is going to flop.

HARD.

Stiffler4120d ago

I believe MS is partly thinking this and that's why they're almost keeping a step back from the VR crowd and seeing what happens.

Could be wrong but it seems like that's what's happening with them atm.

gangsta_red4120d ago

I think this is actually the case. Not that VR is going to flop hard, but to actually see if VR is going to be an actual success.

There seems to be a buzz about it, but that buzz seems as artificial as the buzz and push for 3D these media billion dollar corporations marketed to the consumer.

Stiffler4120d ago

My thoughts exactly red. Interesting

Concertoine4120d ago

How many people are willing to pay 200 for a peripheral with limited use? Maybe some on this site, but in real life, no way.

annoyedgamer4120d ago

They have been talking about VR since the 80s, it has never materialized because the concept works only in the imagination. In real life it is impractical.

Moldiver4120d ago

The thing is, VR headsets will cost almost as much as a console. I dont see the adoption rate being very high on any platform that is not the PC. And even on PC Its difficult to say how successful it will be. I dont hear any non gamers talking about VR, and the ones I know would not been seen dead with one. Its an uber-nerd gadget in there eyes. May aswell be the old nintendo powerglove.

Im on the fence about whether I will buy one personally. I still need to know more about these side effects from por longed use. I know gamers that spend up to 6-8 hours playing. Dread to think what would happen to them if they got their hands on VR headsets.....

UnHoly_One4119d ago

I'm one of those gamers that will play for long stretches.

I have absolutely zero desire to get a VR headset.

Wearing my TV on my face adds absolutely zero value to the experience for me. I just don't see the appeal of it, especially once you weigh all the negatives.

Moldiver4119d ago

"especially once you weigh all the negatives"

^^Especially this. I guarantee you when these headsets are out in the wild we will hear of a few horror stories.

Bigpappy4119d ago

I am scared as an MF about the side effects of VR or anything screwing with my eye and perception.

I will wait a year or two before I even consider more than a few minutes of VR. Once they come up with a standard that works, the should have it independently studied for long term effects before using gamers as test animals.

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krypt19834120d ago

They should keep there focus on hololens and not worry about vr it is going to be niche just like 3d tvs and go away for gaming atleast, there is will be small indie titles that are like a hour long but you wont see call of duty and AAA games, vr will better suit other applications besides gaming and the entry fee will be outrageous..

iamnsuperman4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

If you think Microsoft should not bother with VR because of it being niche then I can't image how you think a focus on hololens is a better route. AR is far more niche than VR. If they are going to do one or the other VR is a better route

bleedsoe9mm4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

ms is all about keeping their thumbs in every pie in case the world heads that way they don't have to start from scratch . i don't think the industry knows what VR or AR games/experiences are going to look like , throw crap at the wall and follow the money .

LexHazard794120d ago

Lol...dont make me laugh dude. AR has better usage for real world applications. Go watch the concept video again....the one with the plumber showing a customer how to fix plumbing issue. You cant do that with VR...Hololens has the potential to be a game changer. MS is thinking more than just games with Hololens. Anyway..I hope VR does well...MS will have Hololens and a VR headset....

iamnsuperman4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

@BakPAin

You might want to think about the practical side of wearing a headset all day. For the business side employees are going to hate it. Wearing a big visor not only looks ridiculous but also far less comfortable that sitting in front of a far cheaper monitor. Employers are not going to waste the money on something that a monitor can do. Employees won't want to wear something all day. This is a problem that effect the consumer side of things. People don't want to wear stuff on their face to see an AR view of the world (look at Google Glass)

Then the gaming side. AR requires space because it overlays on your living room. It will have the same problem kinect had. You need space and uninterupted space. AR has never sold to the public well. Look at Google Glass. What it did was impressive and it isn't far off what Microsoft is offering

If you think AR is popular then you are going to be shocked when it doesn't sell. AR is more like 3D than VR (and VR is fairly niche itself)

nickster4120d ago

Go ahead MS and copy Sony, it's ok.

LexHazard794120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

Did Sony invent VR? They weren't even the first console makers to dable with VR. Did you forget SEGA and Nintendo back in the days. Who's copying who? Let me guess Sony has Morpheus blueprints from early 90s...LoL..

Btw- We'll see whos copying who if Hololens does well.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio55d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing55d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9255d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit55d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing55d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9254d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay56d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn257d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers57d ago (Edited 57d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn256d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown57d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos57d ago (Edited 57d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay56d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay56d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac56d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger57d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300057d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde57d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood57d ago (Edited 57d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde56d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7558d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_56d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.