"What is the best looking games on PS4 right now? Is that the order? What is the resolution of the order?"

You wanna' compare that to The Evil Within? On XBOX ONE even?

Heh...

Back on topic: I would like to thank Richard Leadbetter for helping me make an important decision today... I'm sticking to 7th gen and eventually going retro.

As predicted, my entire point went flying right over your head Pappy and much like the author of this article, you are also trying to downplay the impact that resolution plays, in order to suit your agenda, as this is an area in which your console of choice has struggled.

I am well aware that other factors come into play during game development in order to strike a balance between resolution and framerate.

I'm merely illustrating the point that Leadbetter is attempting to obfuscate matters by shifting the focus away from resolution and onto other areas such as framerate and game experience.

Reading between the lines, i come to the conclusion that he and his website have a deliberate agenda doing this so as to rob and downplay any advantages that Sony have in this area.

If i listened to your inane claptrap i would replace my 4k television in my living room for my old 720p that is currently residing in the attic.

Get a PS4 or an xbone. There are great gmes coming this gen. Puck based on whatever reasons you want, bit don't miss out to make a point. For me, PS4 does have the games I want, and my friends play there, so it's a simple choice. Eventually, of there is a can't miss game on xbone, I'll get one.

While many games may look a little better on PS4, it isn't why I bought it, and it isn't why I bought a PS3. Eventually I bought a 360 for games, bit spent most of my time where my friends play.

Games like Bloodborne and Persona will sell systems, but so will Halo. The good news is that they are affordable and will only get cheaper.

man, you're missing the point of what dolphin is trying to say.

Well, the PS4 has consistently had both higher resolutions and better textures and lighting and as well as particle effects.

So where does that put your agenda?

The PS4 has a better memory architecture and more powerful GPU nothing is going to change that.

#dealwithit

Resolution NEVER allows ALL graphics features to stay intact. You ALWAYS have to make a sacrifice of hitting your target resolution or going lower and being able to throw more at the screen. That is a major part of game development, deciding where you want to settle for the look you're trying to achieve.

For instance, Driveclub is currently the king of racing game graphics. However, they could have halved the resolution and doubled the frame rate (well, it doesn't scale perfectly like that, as there could be other bottlenecks, but i'm going to simplify it for the sake of this example). Or they could have halved the resolution and included better anti-aliasing or anisotropic filtering. There is always going to be something you could have done that gets cut in order to hit any resolution.

Quite wrong actually. Making a good game matters to both, but one is more capable than the others.

I've always had a super powerful PC, as I do video production, but you always get console level graphics just cleaner and sharper. It isn't until the end of the generation where you start to see games where "that just couldn't even be done on any console"... tesselation and other DX11/12 features were what separated the last gen consoles from this gen, in addition to raw power. It'll be a little while before PC's are offering features like that which just can't be done on consoles even at lower resolution.

That's why I never saw the point in it. My PC is big and loud, not in the best spot for gaming, so it spends the majority of its time rendering video, CGI, or video projection mapping. I just don't see enough of a benefit to endure those inconveniences.

Frosty you know they make wireless hdmi right? You also know that cell phones are going to pass these current consoles gpu output right? You also know we have video cards that can actually do real time realistic volumetric gas and fire Sims on the video card? We are way over 3 teraflops man.... the ps4 is like 1.5ish. I don't know about you but we are doing 4k depth maps in real time on 3 4k monitors with all ssd.

I'm sure some one will come along and use the full power of the high end cards sooner or later in vr. Yet to say console render better is pretty fanboy - ish and missleading.

If these consoles would have hit 3 teraflops like devs where asking for seriously we would have stuff closer to transformers the movie in real time. Any bump is good but the hype about power is tiring because they just are not that powerful. The magic of RISC cpus are gone also. We just have basic pc kit in these consoles with no exotic os tweaking them. The next gen should be better though.

Yet these consoles are about games... we should be talking about that. HD is still a hit or miss subject.

All im saying is that gameplay should be the first priority before they think about how the game will look. These days they worry about graphics before gameplay which is wrong imo.

I can agree with that but I can also add that there is nothing wrong with having better graphics aslong as it doesn't hurt the gameplay, storyline etc etc. Im just saying that graphics may not be as important as gameplay & story imo but it does bring the game to life & gives gamers a more immersive world that makes us pause for a second just to check out the beauty of the world the devs have created.

Didn't know dx12 was going to be on ps4 as thought that was only for ms products etc which last time i checked aren't on ps4

He said DX12 and "similar updates to the ps4". He didn't say dx12 was going to the ps4.

Not to say I completely agree with everything he said, framerate is an issue on both consoles to varying degrees.