I really think you have been way too harsh on this game. It's R@D first PS4 game. It's a new IP. It's original/cinematic remit is very ambitious. I feel this game does have growing pains (mainly from folks like you LoL). But I personally think that the dev's will take on board gamers (valid) critiques. I personally believe this franchise is worth supporting. Like Killzone, uncharted, Driveclub, Bloodborne ect.

be specific septic. I've played the game and can discuss it. you keep spamming theads with your vague rhetoric - give some specifics or your posts are meaningless.

I'm a "vote with my wallet" type, and I am really torn on whether to support the game or not.

For my mind the £50 asking price for a short linear campaign is absurd, and supporting it is an open invitation to EA/Activision/MS/Sony/Ubisoft to try to shaft us with as little content as possible going forward.

At the same time, The Order isn't broken, it doesn't have micro-transactions, it doesn't conform to any generic AAA standard, it isn't a remaster. As far as sinister publishing goes, it is far from the worst offender.

I suppose the right thing for me is just to wait for the price to come down, but I'm not overly patient :(

One of the worst games?

I have seen worse.

This game has potential for a sequel, which will definitely be longer and more action packed.

@Septic
Wasn't going to get this, but got the missus to get it for me, haven't tried it yet but gonna try and enjoy it for what it is.
I get the feeling a lot of people on here are just desperate to like the game, and are probably forcing them selves to like it.
Because let's be honest the reviews were not flattering.
I do think though, the sequel will be more focused on gameplay than anything else after the backlash it received, well I hope so anyway.
I wonder how many will end up trading it in too...

It doesn't deserve the sales unless people are enjoying the game, and yet when people (who have actually played it) frequently say they enjoy the game, wouldn't that be an indicator- by your own standards- that The Order deserves its sales?

What doesn't it do right? As far as I've played, it's succeeded in everything it's attempted to do. Or are you another of those people who judges a game based on what it isn't, rather than what it is?

And what hype? Despite all the revisionist comparisons to Ryse, there hasn't been a game in a very long time- if ever- that has been so subjected to hatred. There were nowhere near as many negative articles for that game, or any other game you can think of(feel free to check the archives).

And if you haven't played it, how in the hell can you call it mediocre or anything else? I could see if it had technical issues(Rye DID come under fire for not being able to hold a framerate.... AFTER it released), but those are neither being reported nor do they exist in some unacceptable level. At least then you would be able to see these things without playing the game, but your bashing of The Order is based on ignorance: that of reviewers who apparently have forgotten how to review(and this applies to all games, not just this one), and your own as it pertains to knowledge about the actual content and quality of the game.

@Spotie

"What doesn't it do right? As far as I've played, it's succeeded in everything it's attempted to do."

Yeah and having completed the game, I say it succeeded at nothing but being a boring, hollow game that offers nothing new and is lacking any real intuitive gameplay depth or longevity

"And what hype? Despite all the revisionist comparisons to Ryse, there hasn't been a game in a very long time- if ever- that has been so subjected to hatred. "

There was no hype? What is it selling on? It certainly isn't the reviews is it?

"And if you haven't played it, how in the hell can you call it mediocre or anything else?"

I have played it.:

http://n4g.com/news/1678163...

Thanks Septic for buying Order. We need "gamers" like yo.

Lol, sure, it has it's problems but mediocre it is not. It stills stands up as a very good game in it's own right, the below 7 scores just show how out of touch "gaming journalism" is with the modern gamer, half of the low scores are just sensationalist click bait reviews.

The BS fanboy propaganda against this game from the start didn't help either, thankfully the million or so people who bought the game didn't listen to the petty fanboy troll drivel.

After completing it on Saturday, i give this game a 7.5-8/10, i really enjoyed it, the vast majority of my friends who also bought the game gave positive views.

Roll on The Order 2...

Because gameplay doesn't sell anymore, otherwise Vanquish would be the best selling TPS of all time, you know a game that values mechanics, depth and fun over graphics and visuals. Gamers these days don't want to play games, they want to be handheld through interactive Z-Movies instead.

Its a solid 9 game for me personally.Let me explain.

I started gaming since the atari days and started buying my own games in the SNES era. Full priced games for SP that generally last 1-3hrs max for the majority.

Back then it was all about gameplay with story gaining prominence as well going into the PS era. Never heard complaints about length or replaybility because they were irrevelant.

To this day it is still the case for me. You see, replaybility for me is about replaying the SP from time to time as its always been from the start. It is not about adding tacked on MP, trophies or forcing players to buy DLC and skimping on SP.

However this is me as an old time gamer. I would never be arrogant enough to be dismissive of other gamers that do perfer MP dlc trophies etc to prolong their gameing experience.

Its a big enough industry that it can support all. However it is sad to see gamers like you wanting types of games like the order to fail becuase it is not your type of game. The Order is the perfect type of game for old time gamers like me that have supported this gaming industry for a long time now. 31 years in my case. God forbid that once in a while a game that is focused on my gaming prefernce is made.

Wow seriously crying over a games sales, You sound jealous and need to grow up. The game is great and is getting 8 out 10 by a lot of reviews.

If you wasn't ranting about the order and talking down PlayStation games you would have nothing to do. The game has had zero hype and nothing but hate, so id love to know how you think it's sales come from hype lol.

Stop crying and just enjoy the game.

@Eyeco Here is the problem with what you are saying. NO ONE is saying all games should be like The Order. People like it for what it is and it is a great game, but you are saying every game (at least of it's genre) SHOULD be like Vanquish. I loved Vanquish and i loved The Order. 2 completely different games despite the camera placement. It's ok to like different types of games.

"gameplay doesn't sell anymore"

Meanwhile in the real world, GTA5 not only was the best selling single title last generation but loads of people bought it again for their new console. I'm one of those people, and I also enjoy The Order. So much for your theory.

I'd score GTA5 higher than The Order, for the record. I simply have a problem with the very lowest scores.

@Septic
Nice to see you linking to a page that in turn links to a review you have written. I Followed the link,read the review on the site, got to the end of the review and clicked the alternative review, some still might not like the score but I found it a far more balanced read, or maybe the other reviewer just stopped and and took a breath before writing theirs.

Septic, as much as I appreciate your opinion you analyzed something which probably helps explain why reviewers are different from just every day casual gamers. Your review had, in my opinion an over analytical paragraph about having to press a button to release the lifeboats from the airship. Not once in my two play throughs did I even think anything of this moment in the game, I just pressed triangle, it didn't hinder me, bother me, slow my progress, make me angry. It's the kind of moment in a game that will only become an issue if your looking for it and to be honest I'm kind of happy thats not what I do because I imagine it could end up ruining a lot of gaming experiences for me if I was to follow this kind of depth in analyzing a game.

I enjoyed 'The Order', I didn't watch any fanboy walkthroughs, I ignored all the pre crap that was coming out, I didn't go by any reviews and I think I benefited from this approach. I like all kinds of games and I just play them, I very rarely over analyze them as I find that just ruins what their all about.

@Kal-V3

I'm not saying all games should play like Vanquish I'm saying all games should prioritize gameplay BECAUSE THEY'RE GAMES.

When you look into previews and interviews leading up to The Order's release, it became very clear to me that R@D didn't want to make a game they wanted to make an interactive movie they always briefly spoke or flat out avoided talking about the gameplay, at first I thought it was due to secrecy but no it was because they had NOTHING to talk about.

This becomes even more obvious due to the baffling design choices in the game, unskipable cutscenes, slow walking segements, Abundance of QTE's, black bars.

These choices work well in a "game" like Heavy Rain but in a shooter it's just not FUN and it clearly illustrates how RAD are just out of touch with what shooters are and what gamers have been bitching about for over a decade now, RAD wants you to WATCH their "game" rather than PLAY their game.

I agree, i was looking forward to this game but it lacked in so many ways so i decided to go with bloodborne instead.