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Is what Sony offering enough for the Hacker attacks?

Sony extending PlayStation Plus memberships by five days and offering a 10-percent PlayStation Store discount. But is it enough?

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Rimeskeem4158d ago

They arent even hacker attacks....... they didnt have to give anything away. Why do people have to question this stuff?

lodossrage4158d ago

Because their site(s) need hits

Gazondaily4158d ago

There's very little you can do against DDOS.

It's almost like demanding compensation for a flood that drowned your console. As far I'm aware, that kind of Force Majeure doesn't entitle you to compensation but then again, I wouldn't even remotely be surprised if people made such a demand these days.

If it was a hacking scandal I'd understand. This isn't the same thing that afflicted the PS3 all those years ago. That was downright unacceptable. This situation is completely understandable. If you're a rational human being that is.

Prime1574158d ago

5 days seems pathetic. Their site needs hits. The competition offered nothing.

People don't understand that lizard squad has been perfecting this ddos program: HELLO, they've been ddos-ing better and better and we've been making fun of them until now (and now they are selling it). It was a money ploy.

Hacker attacks... yes, but it's not a hack, and now it's available for any child with too much money.

NukaCola4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

This is like saying if there are 500 people in front of you at Gamestop and non of them are purchasing a game, just wasting peoples' time...then the store is required to compensate you for time lost.

blockcoc4157d ago

@NukaCola You're not paying a subscription to be able to walk into gamestop though.

trenso14157d ago

Did microsoft even offer anything? Cause if they didn't then why is that sony is the only one under the microscope

freshslicepizza4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

sony doesn't need to compensate their customers, instead they should be investing in a more secure and more efficiently run network. a network that doesn't bottleneck because there are spikes in users and one that isn't down for days because of ddos attacks. imagine if amazon couldn't fight back a dddos attack. the service should also not have to shut down even partially for routine maintenance either.

dcbronco4157d ago

Gamers that think they should be compensated for things beyond a companies control are brats that always feel entitled. Neither company owes anybody anything. Offering extra days was a nice gesture. What next, they have to compensate you if your home burns down?

SilentNegotiator4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

I'm just reporting this article as fake. Any site that spreads misinformation by calling/implying that a DDoS attack has anything to do with hacking should simply not be allowed to post said article here.

Furthermore, this "is Sony compensating enough?" article trend is a complete joke. PSN and XBL both had issues for a couple days, Sony offers compensation, MS offers none...and we get articles asking why SONY isn't compensating more? Where's the "Should MS give compensation?" articles?!

nveenio4157d ago

@moldybread, Amazon can be victim of the exact same attack. They aren't immune. They just aren't a fun target. People target Sony because it's easier (there is less redundancy), and they think they can get away with it. But I think the only reason Sony gave compensation is because they think they might have a handle on cracking down on attackers. And by giving compensation, they can say, "These attacks cost us exactly $X in damages." Which is way better than just asking the courts to come up with a number. This will make the penalties super sick, and will discourage the hobbyist from taking part. Sure, it won't stop attacks, but that's not the point. The point is to make the ones you catch hurt, while also saving face with consumers.

Kayant4157d ago

"Because their site(s) need hits" -Basically. Service was patchy/down for 4-5 days company gives you back said days and added bonus of a discount. There is no ready to complain or question "if it's enough" because you got back your lost service time and more.

Dee_914157d ago

I just spilled my beer
Sony owes me a new tv

N4Flamers4157d ago

Most of you posters suffer from low self esteem. Ps plus is a service you pay for. If that service is unavailable for whatever reason that is not on the user end then you deserve to be compensated. When a tree falls on a power line and shuts down your power you do not continue to pay for power and say well that was out of the power companies control.

I think sony has adequately compensated consumers for time lost. Im glad they did that, it saves face.

nveenio4156d ago

@N4Flamers, I get what you're saying, but that's a poor analogy. With power, you pay for consumption above a minimum threshold. That's different than paying for access to something.

A better analogy might be gym membership. You spend $x to access a gym for a month, but there is a major ice storm that month and you can't get to the gym. Does the gym have to reimburse you? No. They'd only have to reimburse you if they closed their doors during that time.

Sony didn't close their doors. Some idiot just parked in the entrance to the parking lot, and it made it difficult for people to get in.

But it really doesn't matter, because Sony did consumers a solid (whether they were obligated to or not), and no one loses anything.

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Snookies124158d ago

Exactly, if it was their security being breached and hacked, then they would have to compensate. This was a simple group of people who were basically trolls screwing with gamers. There was nothing Sony or Microsoft could do to prevent it.

I'm grateful for what they're giving, because they honestly didn't have to do a thing.

thereapersson4158d ago

Because most people have no idea what hacking is, and anything that causes an e-nconvenience is considered a "hack"

Clown_Syndr0me4158d ago

Of course they did.
Have you ever been in a Cinema during a power cut? It isn't their fault but they give you a refund.

Smoey4157d ago

A DDoS is not a HACK it's an ATTACK.

People need to learn the difference before spouting out shit.

BG115794157d ago

Technically the DDOS is a tool used for hacking. It helps to figure out the weakness of the servers and to cause errors that may enable illicit access to a server.
The fact that although the connections were troubled, no information got out.This is actually a good sign that the info in the servers are quite safe.

pompous4157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

Exactly. But why are there "is Sony compensating enough?" articles so often.. Do these authors know it was a dual attack and currently the other network isn't offering anything. So why are there missing articles about "is MS doing anything to make right for customers?". NEWS FLASH XBOX ISN'T GIVING OUT SHIT CURRENTLY.. That's more of an article piece than one about Sony who is the only one trying to make up for it.. I love how MS can do no wrong to the media or the industry as a whole despite them being/doing lots wrong, but never pointed out or held under the same scrutiny as they do Sony. Maybe it's because Sony is more important to the industry than MS..

NegativeCreep4274157d ago (Edited 4157d ago )

All my feelings exactly! As of yet, I haven't heard any news about Microsoft making any kind of gesture of goodwill towards the people that were affected by Xbox Live being downed because of this DDoS attack, so why is Sony exclusively being scrutinized so much despite the fact that they have already made a gesture of goodwill?

This "article" is nothing but a fanboy piece.

FanboyKilla4157d ago

Lol at the dc, but honestly they dont have to give anything, and thats exactly what they are doing.

Saijahn4157d ago

They are hacker attacks, not an actual hack like last years data breach on PSN, but it's still a security issue.

And yes Sony didn't have to give away anything, but what they did give away was chump change when they've had issues time after time on their network. And I fully expect this type of attack to happen again.

We need to be honest here and hold Sony accountable for their lack of precautionary measures. Why are they the one network between all 3 consoles that consistently have this problem? You think it's a coincidence?

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Majin-vegeta4158d ago

First off OP learn the difference between the term "hacker and script kiddie.

Second yes it;s more than enough.

Tell me do you ask for compensation for the following things when they go bust

Electricity
Satellite/cable
Gas for car(When still giving payments on it)
Internet...etc etc....

I swear ever since Sony gave the 2011 games away people now expect compensation everytime soomething like this happens.Bunch of overself entitled brats is what many have become this gen.

Also before someone gives me that damn "Well you can't compare them bla bla bla bla Speech ask yourslef this.

"What do all these things have in common??That's right they're being paid for. I rest my case.

rajman4158d ago

actually when my Internet went down for about 3 days last year, I was refunded the amount it would have cost for 3 days lol

tiffac0084158d ago

What was the cause of the outage? Usually internet providers refund you if the issue was on their end.

thereapersson4158d ago (Edited 4158d ago )

Someone once put it best: do you call up the lock manufacturer of the locks on your door when a robber busts your door in because the lock didn't withstand brute force, asking them to replace your TV the robber stole?

Majin-Vegeta, the sad part is, someone disagreed with you first.

rainslacker4158d ago

Wish Time Warner would have done that for me before I dropped them. Couldn't go a day without the internet dropping out for 10+ minutes, or a week without it being down most of the day. Had it go down for 4 days once, and they said it wasn't their fault. Over the course of 6 months, I probably couldn't log on for at least 2 weeks worth of time.

Anyhow, it's not common for companies to compensate for down time, but I suppose it's possible if you complain to the right people.

in this case though, seems that no matter what Sony does, it probably wouldn't matter to some people.

sjaakiejj4158d ago

Isn't that the same as Sony did here? I'm a bit confused by the whole ordeal.. Most companies don't even give you compensation for downtime unless the law mandates it, so why is anyone expecting Sony to compensate them for PSN being down a few days?

thereapersson4158d ago

sjaakiejj, It's called the entitlement mentality, and it runs rampant across society nowadays.

JoeReno4158d ago

the break down of a refund for your PS+ subscription would be for 5 days (being generous) is 70 cents. so 10% off and 5 added days to a PS+ subscription is plenty in my opinion.

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EcoSos34158d ago

Yes they are already giving you back the days you lost back and 10% of on any purchase in the store. I may not like Sony as much as I did but you dont see me demanding for more so just be happy with what they are giving you.

rainslacker4158d ago

It's enough for me, because honestly, I never expected them to do anything given that it was only down for 2 days for most people, with some intermittent problems afterwards.

Outside of the 2011 PSN hack, I've never once been compensated by any company for down time on their networks.

If they make it a standard policy to make up down time, then I think it could set a good trend for companies to try a bit harder to keep their services up and running, although I do understand that it wasn't completely on them this time.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA23d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY23d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay23d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos23d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7223d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY23d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator23d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum23d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z23d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad24d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga24d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot22d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose24d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE24d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername23d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy24d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde23d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8623d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8623d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole24d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300024d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot24d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle23d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7723d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments