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Why The Wii U Doesn't Deserve So Much Hate

Nintendo has and will always be for gamers that are kids at heart. Every game is filled with bright colors, silly characters, and an easy to follow story line. Be it Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, or Super Smash Bros., you’re guaranteed to have fun and laugh while playing an all-around well-made and enjoyable game.

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MasterCornholio4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

They still deserve some criticism though. But I agree its pretty dumb to hate on the little system the way that some people do.

I used to bash the 3DS early in its life. Last November I bought myself a 2DS and I enjoy it a lot.

Yi-Long4176d ago

I don't think the WiiU is getting 'hate'.

I think for many gamers it's simply the question if it's worth 'investing' in a WiiU, while all the good games are still priced at 50 bucks despite some being 2 years old, while great games for other systems will be 20-230 bucks within a year.

Personally, I think the WiiU now has a very nice collection of great games available, but because I also have a 360, a PS3 and a PS4, all of which still have a whole lot of must-play games, many of which in the bargain-bin, there's no direct immediate reason for me to now go out and buy a WiiU.

I'll wait until some of the games, like Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101, get a nice price-drop, before I'll invest in the system.

Gemmol4176d ago

@Yi-Long

you will wait for a while or have to buy a Wii U and keep it there until Nintendo do a sale on their eShop. Its the only way you get a discount, they just had a article bout this the other day on how Nintendo games hold their value, for example the games that came out in November can now be bought for 25 to 40 dollars depending where you shop, while a Nintendo game stay same because they will always have the same momentum when it comes to sales, while the other games have to bring down the price to keep the sales momentum up, because once the holiday end, games will be bought at a slower rate

so yeah, the only way you get a discount is if you get a bundle with the games you want or buy the system now and wait for Nintendo to put it up for sale like they did this year, they did not keep the sale price up for long, but it was cheaper than the store

BigDuo4176d ago

Price cuts? Did you not take a look at the deals retailers had for Wii U and its software during Black Friday and Cyber Monday last month? There were some great deal for games like Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors for $30 and Wind Waker HD for $15. Wonderful 101's been available for below for $30-20 or less for a long time. Walmart was offering Mario KArt 8 for $35.Best Buy had Wii U for $360 that came with Nintendo Land, DKC: Tropical Freeze, Mario 3D World and Smash Bros 4.

eBay had a Black Friday deal for $250 Wii U with Smash Bros and Skylanders. Nintendo's website offers new Wii U consoles (their labeled as refurbished, but they're actually in brand new condition) for $200 with Nintendo Land.

Targeti s having a sale today for $250 Wii U with Nintendo Land and Mario 3D World.

iplay1up24176d ago

Wonderful 101 and pikmin have been on sale a few times. I have seen 101 for $20.

Yi-Long4176d ago

I'm in Holland. :)

Perhaps Nintendo games go on sale a bit more often in the USA than they do here in Holland, but games like Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101 are still 45-50 euro here.

As I mentioned, I have quite a few other consoles, and a huge backlog, so there's no urgency for me to get a WiiU in the short term. With so many amazing old-gen games and now even PS4 and XBO games in the bargain bin for 15-20 bucks a piece, it really makes little sense for me to go out and spend 300 euro on a WiiU and buying games for 50 euro each... :)

The 10th Rider4176d ago

Yeah, here in the US I picked up Wonderful 101 for $20 early this year. The fact that some really good games with looooooaaaaas of replayability* go on sale more often is actually on of the reasons I'd recommend it...Especially since a console can be found for fairly cheap and you don't have to pay for online. It is interesting that that's not the case in Holland, though.

*Huge budget games like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty often hit the bargain bin fairly fast, but those are replaced by a new entry to the series every year. A lot of Nintendo games are made to stand on their own and rarely get outdated by future installments of the series.

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rainslacker4175d ago

I don't see a lot of hate for Nintendo, outside the obvious trolls of course.

I do see lack of respect for them though. Nintendo isn't what they were 20-30 years ago, but they do make solid games.

They do a lot of things which are questionable though, like still focusing heavily on useless accessories and more recently tie-in products.

On another note, the Wii U has really come into it's own. Doesn't compare to current gen, but lots of fun to be had.

badz1494175d ago

I don't see any hate either. I think, instead of hate, the Wii U is just not as preffered as the competitors by the masses thus the lackluster sales.

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N4g_null4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

The one thing I would say is Nintendo needs an hardware pusher 2nd party for the graphics people. We use to have factor 5, rare. Retro maybe trying to fill this roll. The wiiu looks really really good but they have no one willing to buff those limited specs. This current group of consoles are actually close in tech, the problem is some can just do realism better and some effects are more impressive to console owners.

This is much like the cell debates we had last gen. The cell ended up being a pipe dream done better in the gpus of the current consoles.

What is interesting is how close this gen is to last. The main difference is better light and higher res textures just a little. Some more geometry but pretty much everything will stay the same until the gpgpu is mastered. That also includes the wiiu. What is interesting is the xbone and wiiu both have sram which can help fragment code better and the branch prediction is as bad.

Next year the darker games come out if that is what you look for.

This will probably be the most interesting disappointing gen for developers in a long time. Hype sells way more and more 3rd party tools need to support these boxes.

Some times I wonder if all the hate is from fear that it maybe successful and that means you have to spend more money. Gaming is very expensive now.

Solving the money problems will turn a lot around. You are right w101 and other games should be cheaper in the long run but they are way better games.

The hype and fire sale mentally of sony and ms is causing a false sense of value. Once you get a Nintendo product you start to notice that. Unless you value story more. LoL. Nintendo is very good at making games but hype only exsist to the people who already know what nintendo is about. They really need a new hype driven approach as these systems get more powerful. Tech hype is more powerful in the pc market not game play.

Gemmol4176d ago

Just like what you said, there was a rumor way back that everyone ignore, it said the new xbox was only 20 percent stronger than the Wii U and the ps4 was like 20 to 30 percent stronger than the new xbox. It also said when you compare it to last gen the new xbox was only 6 times stronger than the xbox 360.........that is not a big jump and this is why the graphics although they look better, you can tell its not close to high end pc like the 360 and ps3 was when they first came out

sony said the jump from ps2 to ps3 was that the ps3 was 32 times better than the ps2, you could see that easily, when the ps3 came out......with the ps4 you can too but the jump in graphics was not as huge......so graphics for this generation will not be bad unless you have the developers who did Nintendo 3rd party games......if you only compare Nintendo 1st party games to what Sony best and Xbox best, they are not that far away, yes you can see the difference but its not that far away, its like the people who seen Black Flag on Wii U and ps4 they say it look very similar...

but its like I said if the third party developers keep making Wii U games the way they already do, then people who do not own the system will get a image that the graphics for Nintendo console is far away and put down the system or any other hateful stuff

the system a decent system, anyone who disagree is crazy but I still respect their opinion

I feel like Nintendo should have 3rd party helper team, where the 3rd party send their games to Nintendo and Nintendo help them, but its fine if they do not.....it will save them money.....Gamecube only had 22 million owners and Nintendo never lost a profit, they made money from beginning to end, and if you add it up they made more money off the gamecube then Sony did with the ps2....this is call doing business the right way.... this is why Nintendo as of 2014 is worth more than Sony

http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/...

i think if Iwata left, Nintendo would lose all the billions they save and become a 3rd party.....people think he keep them behind but his smart business keep them making money even if they only selling to a smaller base like he did with Gamecube, they were a failure as a company not being able to sell as well as the ps2, but they pass in flying colors as a business in not losing money and instead gain a lot of profit.....

it seems they already doing that this generation and not worrying about the 3rd party by getting other franchises like bayonetta, devil third, Hyrule Warriors and since the wii u is finally profitable, next generation they can come with a better plan to increase console sales

mhunterjr4176d ago

Do people really hate the WiiU? It seems to me that people are just indifferent

Bathyj4176d ago

Wow. I went to type my post and you had said the exact thing I was going to say word for word.

Spooky.

SkippyPaccino4176d ago

I don't personally hate it. I just want more games to play on it. It's basically my Mario kart box (never been a fan of fighting games) I'll eventually get Zelda and Mario party when they come out but I don't see anything else that gets me excited to play Wii-U

SkippyPaccino4176d ago

Why so many disagrees? Lol! I own a Wii-U and I gave my own opinion... If I didn't own one than I understand, but I do own one and I don't see many games that do interest me till next year.

Neixus4176d ago

Because people disagree with your perspective on the Wii U?

nintendontt4176d ago

nintendo fanbase thats why they cant take any criticism its like talking to stupid kids they dont need reason its only just cause.

freshslicepizza4176d ago

they dont hate it, they just wonder why they need it outside of a few exclusives. its become more of a complimentary console to something else some will use as a secondary device. without much third party support and still priced higher than the ps3/xbox 360 the system is caught in no mans land.

the system is also much weaker than the ps4/xbox one so it has to rely on what makes it different and what makes it different is the wii u gamepad that many dont seem to really care about.

telekineticmantis4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

I care. I want a Pokemon MMO, also voiced dialogue in the new Zelda, I want Nintendo to take some chances instead of being safe all the time. They wont make a Pokemon MMO, because the Handheld games make too much money, they wont add voiced dialogue in the new Zelda because they could fail. To me Nintendo is not ambitious enough, they just find a niche or a gimmick, and they stick with it.

Like the WiiU touch screen controller, it's huge, and poorly designed, they just wanted a gimmick, meanwhile Nobody wants to use it, Proof? Look at the sales for the Gamecube controller adapter, my friend tried to get it, they were completely sold out everywhere

vongruetz4176d ago

My thoughts exactly. It's not that people hate it, they just don't care about it. Seems to me, that's almost worse.

And that's generally speaking of course. I know a ton of people care about it and love it, but most people just don't want it apparently.

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MookaTek4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

I like and own the system, though I've only played a handful of games on it so far. The gamepad has a potential that just simply isn't being utilized. It's being used as a gimmick rather a true piece of new technology. The fact that so many developers exist in this industry and that so few of them have the imagination to utilize the gamepad in extraordinary ways is a depressing situation to me. I'm not even in the industry, and I've thought of many ways to use the gamepad to ensure that the Wii U goes down in history as a technological accomplishment.

In the end, since the system does not have the innards to make some asshole's shirt look like a rain-soaked wet dream in a hardware-demanding thunderstorm, the Wii U will likely end up being a footnote in gaming history rather than the game-changer it should be.

But the system is still young, so I probably shouldn't be so negative. I have no regrets purchasing it thus far. Here's hoping that a couple of forward-thinking developers look at what the system and the gamepad combined are capable of and say, "What the hell, let's revolutionize gaming again. That hasn't been done in a while."

aerisbueller4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

Despite my highly anti-WiiU comment history, I ended up getting a wii u for the family this christmas. XBox One was never in the running, and I really tried to want a PS4. Even though I had made the decision before I left my house, I stood in front of the PS4 games rack, trying to make myself choose PS4, but there just wasn't a single thing there that made me want one. The only game that could have turned the tide was LBP3 if it turned out to get good reviews, but alas, it didn't, and I couldn't find a single already released game I was excited about.

Wii U has the most high scoring titles on Metacritic, and on the rack I was excited to see Smash Bros, and Super Mario 3d World, and Mario Kart, and WindWaker HD. So despite still believing that the hardware itself is a bit of a ripoff pricewise (cost is too close to the far more powerful PS4), it was the only current gen console I felt like owning at the moment.

If at least a few of Uncharted, Silent Hill, Metal Gear, Final Fantasty 15, and Tomorrow Children end up being good, those are all games that might warm me up to getting a PS4, but in the meantime it feels like there's literally nothing worth playing on PS4, aside from stuff to keep you busy if you already bought one.

So yeah, I really hope Nintendo makes some more respectable or less expensive hardware next go around (it seems like all the developers and players are already bored of the ipad controller, even though it's still driving up the price), but in the meantime, I trust Nintendo will continue to pump out classics this entire gen. Also, counter-intuitively, some of the best looking games are on Wii U. It's true Wii U can't handle the same games as the other consoles, and more detailed games like Bayonetta and Xenoblade X show the consoles limits and compromises, but cartoony games like Mario Kart and Captain Toad look damn beautiful.

N4g_null4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

That is the problem. Development teams are still working on ideas for the wiiu touch screen. It's a slow process though. It will happen this gen or next. It's a floating ds screen. Every one is focused on graphics right now and making millions right now. The gaming public has not truly given development teams a good excuse to invest in it. We arn't just going to give our ideas to nintendos also lol.

CEO want to make money like ubisoft now. Those sales on mediocre games have tainted the industry that was already jaded. They could care less about the games.

The idea that the wiiu hardware is not worth it is some great pr. You start to see this when you own one. The system is more than a screen shot. Most publisher are only prepared for that though.

If Nintendo would have made nintendo land dark and freakishly realistic then they would have turned heads.

So yeah the hate is real it is just subversive. The idea that it is over priced and just gimmicks is not thrown at systems with mediocre games. Before nintendo is even able to show you their games are better people automatically think that nintendo should be cheaper. They think this due to the media and 3rd parties who still make last gen games but black ball the wiiu. When they do make ports they actually sabotage them. Then they can funnel all of their fans to one box. Ubisoft banked on this and made a huge profit. So you got everything against them almost. Which is why Nintendo adopted the direct methods of pr. The nintendo Treehouse at E3. The Truth Is The Wiiu Is Not Far Behind The Xbox1 OR ps4.

Sony is the smartest at tricking young adults with specs. They have been doing this since the ps2 really. The truth is the ps4 will be no different just slightly better here or there.

Realplaya4176d ago

I gave you a bubble sir. But look at it from this perspective with all the technology in the other systems games are still being released on last gen platforms. What Nintendo attempted to do was offer a more affordable solution. TBH they have succeeded because there are games coming out for the Wii U next year and beyond that will make you love the house of Mario. As far as technology this if you have not downloaded it get Nno Assault Neo the game is drop dead beautiful. Plus Here is the effort a real developer put into it.

What we also like is that there are plenty of possibilities for speeding up your rendering and code, but you don’t have to dig deep for them to get proper performance.
For instance, all of our shaders used in ‘Nano Assault Neo’ are not really optimized (Meaning there was room for performance improvement). We just used the first iteration of them because they were already fast enough. We looked later through the shaders dis-assembly and noticed we can make them 30-40% faster by better pipeline usage or better hints for the shader compiler.
As ‘Nano Assault Neo’ never had a problem running at 60fps (including a 2nd screen rendering at 60fps on the GamePad) we didn’t have to do that kind of optimizations back then. For CPU usage ‘Nano Assault Neo’ only used the main CPU core. The two other cores were almost idle, beside a few percent used for our audio thread.

Kurisu4176d ago

If the Wii U was as powerful as PS4 and Xbox One, had third party support and titles that made third party titles stand out on the system then things would be very different.

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U.S. patent examiner rejects Nintendo’s summoning characters patent as obvious: non-final ruling

The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7749d ago (Edited 49d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer74d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi73d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer74d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot74d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno74d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay74d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno72d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK73d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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