CraveOnline: "In America, there is no bigger sales day than Black Friday. Its significance is a major factor for video game hardware sales, propelling consoles that usually sell anywhere from 80,000 to 400,000 units per month into the millions. It goes without saying that succeeding on Black Friday is an objective for Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo.
While all three console manufacturers have big deals this Black Friday, there’s one in particular that stands out: the Xbox One. Sony and Nintendo have been content with packaging several games into a bundle sold at normal MSRP, while Microsoft has gone beyond that with a $20 price reduction beyond its holiday price cut. The result is one that will undoubtedly affect the market share of all three companies."
The PS5 has ended up dominating Black Friday sales in the US, while the Xbox Series X|S consoles have fallen short of reaching third place.
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X|S losing in UK and, most importantly in the US by ~5-6:1 to PS5 is a very rare and telling sight.
If we hadn't come to know about Xbox execs internal plans, quote: "[...] to push Sony out of business.", trying to buy out Nintendo, Valve, Sega, make From Software games exclusive to GP, CD Projekt Red, and ultimately buying Zenimax and ActivisionBlizzardKing to weaken Playstation's revenue stream and force GP onto other platforms, I would quite certainly have said now: "That's very unfortunate for Xbox!"
But I admit, knowing all of that, that I don't share any pity for Xbox whatsoever.
That's why, no matter how many times the Xbox division comes out saying "we're releasing a new console!", I take it with a huge grain of salt. While Phil Spencer and co. might be all about it, Nadella and the shareholders, who just dumped nearly 100b into buying half the gaming industry and are not seeing that ROI come back anywhere near as fast as they'd hoped, they may have other plans... especially now that they've effectively gone third party.
Even if they do release a new "console PC hybrid" that runs windows and can play all windows games, it'll still be at a disadvantage to equally powered systems that have dedicated gaming operating systems. Now that Valve is also entering into that space to give them competition, and being that PC/console hybrids have traditionally failed, as the average gamer doesn't care to mess with drivers, navigating windows, etc... Even if MS does put out a PC in a lunchbox case and calls it a console, I don't see things changing much for them on the hardware front. It'll (based on rumored specs) be an extremely expensive system, well into the 4 digit range, and at that point, why spend that much money on a PC that you can't upgrade? Give me a box I can swap out GPUs in, add RAM, upgrade the CPU, and have it be plug and play with no need to mess with drivers/etc while still being compatible with all windows games... then you'll have my attention at that price point. However, at that point, you basically just have a PC with a specialized OS... which we can also do with traditional PCs, and MS isn't going to give up on trying to force us to buy a Windows machine, even if it isn't the best OS for gaming (vs. a dedicated gaming OS like we see in consoles).
«It'll (based on rumored specs) be an extremely expensive system»
Yes.
And don't forget to add the current undergoing price surges in components to the math.
They've announced even BEFORE them happening that Xbox Next is going to be «premium» piece of hardware.
"I take it with a huge grain of salt."
They've said they're committed too many times and they're under contract with amd. This is is you who thinks the S was holding back the PS5. I would back down Now because you know you're gonna be dead wrong later like you always are about everything. Because you know, being a fanboy and all.
The gen after next yes I think they won't make their own hardware and do OEM even then that's a maybe.
@Lightning
There is no such thing as a next gen Xbox developed and distribued from Microsoft. They may get Asus to put out a PC with an Xbox sticker on it and it but thats it. It may have the ability to play some Xbox games but thats it. Sure Microsoft could surprise us but right now its just not making sense for them to do it.
@jay that's what I said. License PC stuff with a xbox logo. That's for next next gen maybe for next next gen. Next gen though they've already confirmed more times than I can count they're making
You shouldn't have any pity because they are still making a butt load of money. Hardware sales isn't the only way to measure success.
We don't know that, do we.
Anyone from Xbox stating "We're profitable!" can be taken with a grain of salt.
It's not that I care.
But only for the sake of having a serious conversation it would be very helpful if we'd knew Xbox' operating income.
Which we don't.
It would be disingenuous to call “making butt load of money” on other companies’ platform a success.
Especially considering that you can’t even give them credit for earning the “butt load of money” as they bought the companies AND you can’t even say they are “making a butt load of money” without first explaining that they are in debt to the tune of 89 BILLION dollars which will not be paid off with that “butt load of money” for generations to come.
MS demise of Xbox is on MS at this point. All the painfully stupid decisions is all on MS.
In terms of MS making money. Obviously they do Content and services first party releases (3rd party publisher) and especially GP is said to be a big driver for them. If any of those things wasn't doing anything for them it would all get shut down a long time ago under MS specifically.
I'm a big fan of "karma" and you shouldn't feel any pity for Xbox.
But at the same time, are they really hurting? This all just seems to be moving in the direction they actually want. I think any hardware sales at this point is considered a win for them.
Well done PS5 again. Launched over 5 years ago and still going strong. Massive success.
"NEX Playground ranked third (14%), leaving Xbox Series X|S consoles in the likely fourth place."
I follow gaming news very regularly and I follow a few gaming channels on youtube, I've never even heard of NEX Playground. What the hell even is that? (rhetorical, I know I can just google it) The fact Xbox is losing to that is extremely embarrassing.
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yeah I was like WTF is NEX? never heard of it mentioned anywhere LOL
I googled it and watch about it on YT and it's basically EyeToy/Kinect but it's a subscription only console?? Americans really loves their subcriptions ha?
The PS5 shows no signs of slowing down. Five years after release, it commanded the Black Friday market in the US, UK, and Spain, responsible for nearly half of all units sold
Microsoft is a 4 trillion dollar company. The 23.5 billion dollars that it's gaming departments has brought in equals about half of one percent of that. If anything, Microsoft can drop it's gaming divisions and not bat an eye. And they should. Because they can't seem to make it work.
I’d rather they sell of the IP to co panics that have a passion for gaming. They don’t have a very good track record of managing studios and IP.
I’d rather they sell off the IP to companies that have a passion for gaming. They don’t have a very good track record of managing studios and IP.
Black Friday deals include discounts on prebuilt gaming PCs with impressive specs and stunning anime aesthetics, like the limited edition Frieren PC.
Modern GPUs are the most expensive component of any gaming PC by far. However, this Black Friday allows gamers to score some very decent GPU upgrades!
at walmart today ( black Friday ) I saw 3 people getting X1s. they're also giving a 30 gift card with the purchase so practically 300$ dollar X1s
EDIT out here they're doing black Friday early
Well of course. It's an incredible value.
at that price with the included games, it's bound to make waves.
Hard to believe anyone will be able to top last years Brack Friday Bunduru.
Lol a picture of a stack of PS4's is your evidence? This now qualifies as news on N4G dam this site has sunk low.