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Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes - PC Versus PS4 Comparison, PC Graphics Options

Konami has showcased the PC version of Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes during a livestream. In case you missed it, there is no reason to get upset as IMGUR's member 'TheJackdaw' has captured two images and shared a comparison between the PC and the PS4 version.

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decrypt4198d ago (Edited 4198d ago )

Wow thats alot of options on PC version. Personally i dont care about the comparison to console versions. What matters is that the game is coming to the PC. Which tells me PC is gaining more and more momentum. Last gen it would have been unheard off to get an MGS game on PC.

Graphically PC will easily win. Hell some folks will be running this in eyefinity or maybe 4k so there really is no comparison. Not to mention once bought on PC the game stands as a collection, cant really make a collection on console.

I_am_Batman4198d ago (Edited 4198d ago )

I agreed with everything you said until the last sentence (well and there have been MGS games on PC before). Why wouldn't you be able to make a collection of games on consoles? I have a huge collection of PC and console games.

decrypt4198d ago (Edited 4198d ago )

You cant make a collection on console, not for long anyways, because of no BC. Its an inherent problem with consoles.

Sooner or later your older consoles dies, there goes your collection with it. Not the same thing on PC. I been gaming on PC for 20 odd years. Can literally play most games i have ever bought. Be it through virtual OS or dosbox everything just works hence the collection builds. I have over 200 games on Steam alone, thats dating back from 2005 just cant build that sort of collection on consoles.

Agreed there have been MGS games on PC before, however last gen japanese devs treated PC as if it didnt exist. I think the attitude is different this gen. This is probably because networks like Steam have over 100 million user bases now and they continue to grow. Unlike consoles where start of the Gen where a new user base must be built. Hence Console maker money is no longer able to keep developers away from the PC.

opoikl4198d ago (Edited 4198d ago )

"Sooner or later your old console dies"

My old PSX is still going strong, as is my PS2 and obviously the PS3. By the time the PSX dies (if it ever does) I will probably have lost all interest in playing those really old games. The fond childhood memories I carry with me will also be worth a lot more than risking harming them by replaying 20-30-40 year old software.

P.S. This already kinda happened when I inserted MoH:Underground in my PS3 a few years back. Some games really don't age well..

decrypt4198d ago (Edited 4198d ago )

@opikl

Can you hook up your PSX 1 or 2 to your new HDTV?(or do you have your old TV lined up too?) Yes you can but all you will be seeing are terrible jaggies on your 1080p screen when the game res is below 480p.

Nevermind the hassle putting up all the boxes together would be such a mess. Even if you decide not to have them all plugged at one time. The hassle to take an old console out and plug it is discouraging enough that you never play on it any more.

More so since PS4 is out many people probably dont have the PS3 plugged in any more. Hence dont sign into the online network with their PS3s hence PS3 online games would be dying. This is not the case with PC. Since a PC has no BC issues, people may be going back and forth to new and old games all the time hence this gives higher chances for older game networks to survive.

Lack of mods, the reason why old PC games still manage to keep people interested is because they still have development going on for them through mods. No such thing like this for consoles either, hence interest dies out.

You may deny my points, yet they are very genuine. You cant have a collection on consoles for the long term its just not feasible, this probably is the reason why console gamers are so excited when HD remakes are announced, all lined up to pay for the same game again and again.

ShinMaster4198d ago (Edited 4198d ago )

You can't reason with elitist fanboys.

@ decrypt

You know you can play PS1 and PS2 games on PS2 and PS3 as well via component and HDMI, right? So yes, you can play those games on HDTVs.

You're assuming all console gamers get rid of their systems whenever a new one comes out.

And it's cheaper to replace an old console than a GPU or other key PC parts.

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I_am_Batman4198d ago

"Sooner or later your console dies, there goes your collection with it. Not the same thing on PC."

Ahm ... It's similar, unless you're going to tell me that you can play games with a broken gpu. If you're hardware brakes you have to replace it. Sure you can buy a new graphics card while you have to rebuy old consoles but they don't cost much anyway.

"I been gaming on PC for 20 odd years. Can literally play most games I ever bought "

I haven't had much luck then because virtualOS and Dosbox work ok on a lot of games but there are some compatibility issues from time to time and some games weren't playable at all for me over the years. People that say that PC has no bc probably haven't tried enough old game on new systems to get those issues.

And I've been gaming on consoles for 20+ years and the only one to ever die on me was my PS3. It had the YLOD but i got it fixed and improved the cooling so it won't happen again for just above 100 euros. I still have a working PS4, PS3, PS2, PSOne, Sega Genesis, SNES, NES and even an Atari 5200 (that console is actually older than myself). I don't really know how many games I have but I'd say it's definately over 600 and that's for consoles alone. With PC games It'll almost be double of that.

So you definately can build a console games collection.

ShinMaster4198d ago (Edited 4198d ago )

You know you can play PS1 games on PS2 and PS3 as well, via component and HDMI, right? So yes, you can play those games on HDTVs.

You're assuming all console gamers get rid of their systems whenever a new one comes out.

And it's cheaper to replace an old console than a GPU or other key PC parts.

user56695104198d ago

let the hate continue. with all the added effects they will still say theres no difference. lmao hate hate hate hate.

carlingtat4198d ago

Not just about gaining momentum but its mainly the financial benefits of releasing on PC. More and more studios are publishing to PC because of the cost of developing AAA games. These publishers and studios see it as another platform and more profit.

make724197d ago

I still have old computers like vic20,commodore64,Amiga 1200,+ old consoles like nintendo 8bit,Playstation 1,Playstation 2,Playstation 3,Xbox360 and so on.. And those still working great.Also i have 3 different Pc:s 1.i5 4670k with gtx780 2.i5 4570 with 2x760 sli 3.fx8320 with gtx750 ti.Also have 2 Playstation 4:s and Wiiu.One think i dont have is old pc they are not worthy like Amigas or old consoles:).I quess you only play with Pc.You lost much of great gaming time with pc:s problems .

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LightofDarkness4198d ago

Wow, this might actually be a more than decent PC port. The increased number of light sources are quite noticeable in the first gif, and the reflections are always welcome. This gives me very high hopes for The Phantom Pain on PC.

And Nvidia specific features? YES. TXAA, HBAO+ and PCSS please.

Th3o4198d ago

PC has more detail which is expect, but it seems ot be a very balanced experience across all platforms.

I was going to pick it up for ps4 but with the PC version coming I'll be picking that up:)

It's too bad because all Metal gear games I own with exception of Rising is on a Playstation product lol.

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bmf73644198d ago

More lens flares. Is JJ Abrams porting this?

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The Metal Gear series has sold over 59.8 million copies

300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.

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FallenAngel19841097d ago

Still waiting on Konami to put the MGS Collection back on digital stores

Nyxus1097d ago

I know right? And rerelease the games for current gen systems while they're at it.

just_looken1096d ago

Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.

Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sarcasm1097d ago

I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.

But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake

gold_drake1096d ago

i played it quite recently and it holds up very well

CantThinkOfAUsername1096d ago

It does, but a remake will be available on platforms other than PS3.

itsmebryan1097d ago

I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.

Ready4nxtgen1097d ago

Yeah I would have thought over 150 Mil. Something.missing here

Nyxus1097d ago

Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.

shinoff21831097d ago

5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand

ChasterMies1097d ago

I would love to buy MGS4 but it’s still a PS3 exclusive.

JEECE1097d ago

Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.

Deathdeliverer1097d ago

Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.

ceyoga1096d ago

You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.

Deathdeliverer1096d ago

Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID

P_Bomb1097d ago

Did my part!

“You’re pretty good” 🫡

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Kojima looks back on Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes on its 9th anniversary

Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."

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-Foxtrot1155d ago

People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.

He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead

I_am_Batman1155d ago

I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.

I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.

jambola1155d ago

I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that

MadLad1155d ago (Edited 1155d ago )

To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.

I can't stand these paid glorified demos.

CrimsonWing691155d ago

Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.

That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.

MIDGETonSTILTS171155d ago

Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.

I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.

Chocoburger1154d ago

The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.

https://kotaku.com/konami-c...

staticall1155d ago

I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).

Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.

I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...

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Metal Gear Solid V Is The Greatest Stealth Game Ever Made

Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.

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Mobis-New-Nest1327d ago

You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.

ChubbyBlade1327d ago

Cardboard box beats barrel

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got_dam1327d ago

Lol I see what you did there.

fr0sty1327d ago

So tired of opinion pieces... I come here for hot news, not hot takes.

-Foxtrot1326d ago

Shit Metal Gear Solid game though

It's boring, empty, repetitive

Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....

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Chard1327d ago

I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game

porkChop1327d ago

The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.

porkChop1327d ago

"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."

Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.

That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.

I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.

MIDGETonSTILTS171327d ago

Sounds like mismanagement by Konami.

generic-user-name1327d ago

Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.

He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.

"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."

Where did you get this from?

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Workshyskiver1327d ago

Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.

Ezio20481327d ago

But that ending though with amazing music. The Man who sold the world.

1Victor1327d ago

I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.

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