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I’ve Already Maxed out My Xbox One’s Storage, and That’s a Problem

GeekParty's Jake Valentine: "It’s been nearly 12 months since the Xbox One hit the market, and I’m already out of hard drive space.

This isn’t a good thing, especially since Microsoft has been pushing its digital marketplace since day one. Right now, unless we pick up a brand new console with a bigger hard drive, we’re going to play a game of installation roulette."

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Neonridr4218d ago

likewise on my PS4. Had to delete a game to install Alien Isolation. Will have to delete something else next week when I get GTA V. Problem is I haven't beaten most of my PS4 games, so hence why I haven't deleted them.

ghettosmurf4218d ago

I expect GTA5 to almost max me out next week, and similar to you I've got too many games I haven't beaten yet, mostly of the free PS+ variety. At least it's winter now!

darthv724218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

"Right now, unless we pick up a brand new console with a bigger hard drive, we’re going to play a game of installation roulette."

Get an external...

"Sure, there are options for external storage devices, but should that really be the norm of this console generation?"

Yes. Wii-U supports it. XB1 supports it. My home DVR supports it and i'm betting sony will support it too. they have already shown an external can work for music (and perhaps video) so why not games???

"For every tech-savvy gamer out there that knows what they’re doing with external storage and hard drive space,"

It doesn't take a "tech-savvy" person to plug in an external hdd. They pretty much are plug and play. My wife could do it. But if the option was to replace the internal HDD with another one...not a chance (sorry honey).

"we have dozens of people who just want to put a disc into the console and press play."

And as for that last part...both MS and Sony had the ability to make the games play from the disc but they both had 'other' ideas in mind which leads to the installation conundrum.

CYCLEGAMER4218d ago

Darth
I should smack you for being so logical and making so much damn sense.

mikeslemonade4218d ago

That's why finish your games.. And get the physical copy.

If you are complaining that you have to buy a HDD for PS4 then save up and buy physical copies. As for X1 it is an issue because the installs take a very long time. It's not hard to finish one game and move on to the next. I would be with even a 200GB HDD with my gaming habit.

The only games I play year-round is Madden and NBA 2K. Everything else I delete after I complete.

Spotie4218d ago

" but should that really be the norm of this console generation?"

Hell no. I shouldn't need an extra device to play my games. There's already far too many things plugged into most entertainment centers, anyway. I'm just imagining if I had my PS3 and SNES hooked up, too(just PS2, PS4, a printer, and TV right now; I don't even have cable yet).

What should be standard is what was already available last gen: larger internal HDDs with the option to expand to whatever size you like.

darthv724217d ago

@spotie... it looks like sony is going to be doing the same thing as nintendo and MS. So clear some room in that entertainment center for an external hdd

http://www.dualshockers.com...

4Sh0w4217d ago (Edited 4217d ago )

I've learned in life if you choose to you can always find something to complain about but life is soooooo much better when you pick your battles.

You see things are constantly changing, we may all want gaming to remain static so we can play our games the same way we did 10 years ago but manufacturers, publishers and devs are going to continue pushing on the digital side due to the ever increasing economics of game development costs, yet gamers still pay $60 like last gen and continue to turn up their nose at any new IP that isn't trying technically outdo what's come before. Gamers imo are the most entitled consumers ever.

A console is like any other investment, you know going in that there are just associated costs that come with buying the device. If you can afford to buy enough games to fill up your HDD, then just buy a external. I mean what was he expecting infinite storage? You can find a very large external for relatively cheap price or you could just continue complaining about something that's not going to change because most people don't find it worth complaining about.

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badboyz094218d ago

Black Friday upgrade to a 2tb Hdd on PS4 for as low as $60!

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen4218d ago

Why is anyone waiting til the last minute to buy an external HDD or an internal HDD? Both consoles support some sort of upgrade and it really doesn't cost much for a 1 to 2 TB HDD. I upgraded my HDD to 1TB 6 months ago. The PS4 500GB HDD was used to replace the 160GB HDD in my PS3. Win win all around.

Volkama4218d ago

I'm holding off on my ps4 upgrade because solid state prices are still on a downward trend, and I think a 1TB SSD will be the right option for me about a year from now.

jspsc1234218d ago

when the ps4 came out i had over 100 disk games for the ps3. i already have 13 disk games for the ps4 + all of the ps+ games.by the new year i will have around 17. i have already ran out of space. by the time the ps5 is out a 2tb hd just isnt going to do it.

blakstarz4218d ago

But you can replace the PS4 drive in there from the get go. I have a 1TB drive I ordered but I haven't maxed out the space on my PS4 yet.

But you don't have to worry about maxing it out because it can be swapped out which is a plus over the XB1.

darthv724218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

All of them have their conveniences. However upgrading the XB1 hdd could be seen as adding to the existing space as opposed to replacing it (like on PS4).

Seeing as upgrading the PS4 drive is like the PS3 then it is a tad (just a tad) more convoluted. you have to ensure you have a backup hdd that is equal to the used space of the console hdd. then you swap out the internal for a bigger internal and then proceed with a restore.

On the XB1 you just ...plug it in and bingo. you now have more space. it was like that with the wii-u as well.

All 3 have some sort of hdd capacity expansion.

mhunterjr4218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

I think swapping it out is less convenient than buying an external. If you ps4 HDD is full and you swap it out, you have to reinstall everything into the new drive. And you are left with a spare 500gb hdd that you can no longer use for your games.

With xbox's solution, you are adding space to your existing capacity, and you can easily move game data between hdds

Nodoze4218d ago

You also have wires and a hard drive next to your console. Clutter. I would rather trade out internal on purchase.

DigitalRaptor4218d ago

Yeah but the install times on PS4 are SO quick.

You can just delete the game install data, keep your saves and then just re-install if you wish to play it.

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JCOLE131954218d ago

Then get an external hard drive. No one here was expecting a 500 GB hard drive to last an entire generation. You can also uninstall games that you don't play anymore and your save data wont get deleted so you can reinstall anytime.

vega2754218d ago

What you say makes sense. But what I've leard over the years is common sense isn't common. Why would this be a problem for MS or Sony because you ran out of HDD space. Especially when MS solved that problem in June. Buy a external hard drive would have been hard so make it easier on the author he said you would have to buy a new console with a bigger hard drive. Yeah..........okay

Mikelarry4218d ago

Lol i read that bit of him saying he has to buy a new console to solve the hard drive issues and stopped reading from there. MS made a big splash about the benefits of this when the update released for some games journo to come out and say something like that.... Im done

Whirlwind_Fanfare_084217d ago (Edited 4217d ago )

^This.

@bleedsoe9mm
'Pro xb1- plug-in external hd
Con ps4- Taking it apart and throwing away a 500gb
sony should be put out of the external hd support. problem solved,
even steven' *rolls eyes*

jrshankill4217d ago

Yeah, I think the author here is a bit of a dimwit.

"Right now, unless we pick up a brand new console with a bigger hard drive, we’re going to play a game of installation roulette."

Ugh, pick up a HDD. You can double the HDD for cheaper than a game. Or get 2tb for $69.99.

Chanogram4218d ago

These articles are stupid. Xbox one allows for ANY USB 3.0 external drive to be used, in addition to the internal drive. Plug it in and go.

PS4 allows for a swap of the internal drive.

Both have their pros and cons. Point is that both consoles give you options and pretty simple solutions to your "problem". Seems like another half-assed attempt at taking shots at next gen consoles (specifically the X1 this time).

500GB isnt enough, i agree. But what did you want them to do? Put in a 4tb drive? I have a 2tb external and i'm already at 50% full. I'd rather have the FLEXIBILITY to do what i want with storage, than have the console be another 100 dollars for an extra 2tb of data storage. I'll handle that part on my own, thanks.

bleedsoe9mm4218d ago

pro xb1 - plug in external hd
con - ps4 - taking it appart and throwing away a 500gb hd

DigitalRaptor4218d ago

Pro PS4 - Install times are super quick.
Con XB1 - Install times are super slow.

bleedsoe9mm4217d ago

@DigitalRaptor sony should put out external hd support , problem solved even steven .
ps4 install times are slightly faster but not by such a margin that its a big deal

DigitalRaptor4212d ago (Edited 4212d ago )

Dude…. http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Get real. Xbone game installs are ridiculously long compared to PS4 which is consistently quick across most titles. People have been complaining since launch and it cannot be ignored. I remember when PS3 was bagged on for its mandatory installs that took between 10 minutes and over half and hour, compared to the pretty instant 360, and now you're acting like the installs on Xbone are negligible? FAR from it. They take about as long as the PS3's installs did and in many cases, much longer. More evidence, just go to YouTube.

The evidence of Xbone being created as a multimedia box first, and gaming console second is racking up.

ScorpiusX4218d ago

How is it if you are allowed to use external hard drives of up to 16 TB. Running out out of rooms sounds weird.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot32d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle32d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7732d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Star Wars: Bounty Hunter Let Jango Fett Loose

LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7737d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We Are Xbox

Dear team,

Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300037d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7237d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit37d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania37d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit37d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0737d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr37d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr37d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9537d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7237d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--37d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7237d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket37d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm37d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde37d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9236d ago (Edited 36d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_37d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted37d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit37d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9236d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT37d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers37d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14937d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0737d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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