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Is Evolution Studios Doomed?

Paul James writes "As a fan of Evolution’s work, and someone who would never wish for anyone to lose a job I cross my fingers tightly that they can quickly fix Driveclub, while Sony gives the studio another chance before making any hasty decisions. Evolution’s games have always made for a brilliant foil to Polyphony Digital’s super serious Gran Turismo series and maybe the profits made from each Gran Turismo can be enough to fuel both studios and allow for a broad range of racing games on Playstation platforms."

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Fizzler4121d ago ShowReplies(3)
uncharted564121d ago

They have definitely tarnished their legacy with this. I wanted to try out the psn plus edition despite the reviews and would had bought the game if it was fun. I still plan on doing that if psn plus edition ever comes out, but man its hard to believe this is the studio that made motorstorm, specially the last motorstorm which was my fav in series.

Christopher4121d ago

Doomed? No.

In need of some help? Yeah. I see some management and restructuring coming in order to prevent these issues from coming up again. It's unacceptable the status of a game delayed for so long and having had the network issues.

TheFanboySlayer4121d ago

I don't think they are doomed either....they actually sold a decent amount to be fair.

SoapShoes4121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

300k+ in America and probably will sell slowly throughout the holidays and next year too. Share Play has gotten people on my friends list to buy it.

SoapShoes4121d ago

MotorStorm Apocalypse's launch was worse than this. They had to delay it right when it was about to launch or something.

DOMination-4121d ago

Yes because there was a massive earthquake in the far east and they thought it would be distasteful. Not really the same as the technical issues of driveclub.

Cha0tik4121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

No, people just know how to over hype a game and then when it doesn't meet their expectations or something goes wrong they blow the entire situation out of proportion. It was going to happen eventually with some game... it just happened to be DriveClub. The only thing that may be doomed are the jobs of the people that work in the Evo Studios server room.

Just some crybaby gamers making a big deal out of the fact that they need to be patient. So what if you waited a bit of extra time already. I've been waiting about 8 years for Final Fantasy XV so they are just being impatient.

Aceman184121d ago

Amen, and 100% spot on. I bought physical copy and love the game if they get servers working to full capacity and whatever is wrong with the PS+ then they'll be fine.

Cha0tik4121d ago

I own the game as well. I love it. I actually don't have connectivity issues when I play anymore.

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nicksetzer14121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

Well, a 1 year delay only to launch with missing features (weather) and broken servers, I wouldn't say they are sitting too pretty. That said:

Doomed? Unlikely.
Dropped as a first party? Possibly.
Chalked up as a F@#$ up and all continues normally? Most likely.

dericb114121d ago

How was weather missing when they also said it would be released as post launch DLC? You are clearly a troll with a silly agenda. Can you tell you PSN please so we can confirm you have a PS4?

nicksetzer14121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

"How was weather missing when they also said it would be released as post launch DLC?"

I am assuming you don't know what "missing" means.... especially after a 1 year delay.

"Can you tell you PSN please so we can confirm you have a PS4?"

No, because trolls on here then send never ending messages or report my PSN account and get me a temp ban. (Happened last time) I will hoever post a pic since you find it so unbelievable for someone to be appauled by such a terrible launch and handling of a game.....

http://a.disquscdn.com/uplo...

So now what is the excuse? Did you ever think maybe I don't how this entire launch was handled? Everything from paul ru r s claiming there were no MT's, (and there are) to delaying the game with no warning until a month before release, launching with a broken online component, no PS+ version, etc, etc, etc.

r2oB4121d ago

@ nicksetzer1

So you wrote your name on a card and placed it next to your friend's PS4, what does that prove?

BTW, I'm joking.

smellslikeralph4121d ago

im so tired of that nonsense from people like you. Someone says something against playstation or something FOR playstation and it always comes down to

Prove you have a PS4 cause I dont believe you. Well I have an Xbox one and a PS4 and drive club is a absolute nightmare. 1 year delay and i bought my driveclub on launch and nothing has worked since. I ended up selling mine on craigslist

Now as for Evolution studios. I believe they really made a bad name for themselves at this point.

Not really sure what will happen at this point. I just know I will not be buying anymore of there games from this point on

LamerTamer4121d ago

Missing. It is not on the disc is it? No because it is MISSING. Go on about patches but those without internet will not have it. Even if you do have internet you will need to re download it every time you change consoles, delete and re install the game or change HDDs. A hassle that should not be needed after a year of delays. DriveFlub is a disaster.

BISHOP-BRASIL4120d ago

@LamerTamer

By your definition of missing, this gen is doomed as a whole... Everything getting day 1 patches and what not. Consoles got it for crying out loud.

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PraxxtorCruel4121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

I don't understand why your disagrees are overwhelming? Weather is still non-existant and people continue to have issues with the servers.

MysticStrummer4121d ago

Sometimes disagrees have more to do with a person's past comments than the one currently being disagreed with.

nicksetzer14121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

@praxtor honestly, agrees on this site mean nothing.

@mystic mmm, yes, you are one to talk about comment history. Not to mention you are talking out your butt as my comments are no different from anyone else. What comments have I made even slightly recently that you are referring to?

At least my comments come from actually experiencing the games/issues/etc as I own both consoles. You however have plagued articles for months and months now praising ps4 and bashing xb1 while ironically owning neither (like most on this site)....

Your own words (Both of these are in the last 24 hours.):
"If you want more of a sim I suppose that may be true for some people. Either way Forza is an XB franchise which means I'll never play it on a console I own, at least not this generation. I'm a one console per gen guy and I've made my choice. If PS4 disappoints me I'll consider other options next gen, but so far I'm happy with my purchase and that includes buying Driveclub."
"Out of all the PS3 gamers I know who will eventually buy a PS4, I'm the only one who has already done so and I just bought mine last week."

@r2ob exactly lol

Jonny5isalive4121d ago

yeah, your past as ps fanboys. I dont have either next gen console but drive club was a flop and failure. Delayed and still sucks, that is a failure.

turdburgler10804121d ago

Doomed? Yes. Sony can't just pull money out of its butt to prop up this failed studio. They are losing money hand over fist as is. It cost sony not only money but image points as well. Heads will roll.

SoapShoes4121d ago

They were losing money when they bought this studio and several others...

fei-hung4121d ago

Regardless of what people say, the game has sold over 500k copies retail, outselling forza horizon 2 by 130k on the X1, with a week in hand, and these are numbers only up to the 25th of October. Couple that with tons more sales coming from digital purchases due to the cheaper price point, I wouldn't be surprised if the game is sitting at 700k at the moment.

If Evo get this fixed before December, there is a good chance we will see another surge in sales both digital and retail as many people are holding back.

With the game outselling FH2, and doing well regardless of its current state, it would be silly of Sony to throw away an entire studio behind a potentially awesome studio. The likelihood is the director will get demoted, the guys in charge of the network code will get their butts kicked and the studio will go on learning from its mistakes.

The issues are bad, but nowhere near as bad as Bf4, and they are being addressed immediately unlike bf4 issues. There is also tons of free dlc being offered for the duration of a year along with a cheaper point of entry to purchase the game compared to other AAA games.

Evolution will go on.

swize4121d ago

More importantly , where are the REPLAYS ? .. I wanna sit back and look at my best lap in all its glory but i can't . Its a standard feature . Still love this game though .

Knushwood Butt4121d ago

Yeah, I was surprised there is no replay option.

Spotie4121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

Missing features are those that were intended to be there at launch, but aren't. As DriveClub was never intended to have weather at launch, how is it missing?

The server issue is definitely a problem. But with it being such a bizarre situation- no way run of the mill server woes persist this long; given that titles like Killzone and MAG never suffered anything like this says it's peculiar, at the least- I don't think they're in as much danger of losing jobs as some of you hope.

On that note, what in the hell makes you think they'd stop being first party? What part of that makes any sense?

Edit: Since I can't respond to folks like LamerTamer, maybe they'll read here that DriveClub outsold bot versions of Forza combined, not just on XB1.

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gangsta_red4121d ago

I can bet that a lot of heads will roll.

And like any company sh$t rolls down hill. You'll probably first here about mass lay offs from this company, all the lower employees will be let go and everyone will wish them luck, then you'll hear executives leaving to pursue "other" endeavors, then you'll get one or two stories of the top head dogs "voluntarily" leaving to go and run another company.

Hopefully these guys can bounce back with another game that's good to wipe this blemish off their track record.

Angeljuice4121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

It has sold well and any bad publicity will diminish over time so I doubt anyone will lose their job. Don't forget it has outsold FH2, so should the Forza team be fired?
If it makes a profit it is a successful business venture, if it fails to make a profit heads may roll.

@below
I know there are more PS4's out there, my point is (whatever the reason) from a business point of view the game that makes more money is more successful. You're looking at it from a gamers' perspective, but try telling shareholders that they should be prioritising quality of software over profits.

LamerTamer4121d ago

There are more PS4s out there so it is not surprising it outsold the much better FH2. If you go by percentage compared to the number of units out there you get the real picture.

glennhkboy4121d ago

Bad publicity WILL NOT DIMINISH over time, especially for Evolution. People are still talking above RRoD after so many years.

maniacmayhem4121d ago

Why would the Forza team be fired? Their online works and the features promised are present. So that statement makes no sense.

madmonkey014121d ago (Edited 4121d ago )

the game probably still sold well, especially online where it was only £35, about 65% of the price of most new releases. for fans of driving games, that like a challenge, its not actually that bad either.

Bennibop4121d ago

They sold over ai million copies of driveclub and have the successful motor storm franchise behind them too so no!

Kind of sick of driveclub and evolution doom and gloom stories now, I personally am really happy and so are many others, the most vocal complainers are people that have never owned it and never will or those waiting for the plus version. It is only right that evolution fix it for paying customers before giving part out free!

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Classic PS4 Racer DriveClub Is Now a Decade Old

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DriveClub, the legendary PS4 racer from shuttered Runcorn studio Evolution, has such an interesting story.

Originally announced alongside the PS4, the game had been intended as a launch title – we even played it in a big London church Sony had rented to showcase the new system prior to its release.

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darthv72496d ago

Evolution was done dirty... DC is still the most stunning visual game of its generation. They certainly deserved better in the end.

VenomUK496d ago (Edited 496d ago )

DriveClub was pretty and I loved the experience of driving in the rain, it was immersive. I had some good races with people from an old forum, but at times I found it to be a bit boring. MotorStorm was such a fun game to play and I loved the controls - it would make sense to remaster that.

DarXyde496d ago

I'd give the visual showcase award of the last generation to The Order: 1886. That game was immaculate.

Uncharted 4 was also absolutely insane, and perhaps manages to use the PS4's power in extremely clever ways.

jznrpg496d ago

It didn’t get good reviews unfortunately

obidanshinobi496d ago

Cause the game was mediocre at best, and surpassed in pretty much every area by Forza Horizon 2.

IRetrouk496d ago

Apart from visuals, driving model, weather effects, only thing forza had was an open world...

Inverno496d ago (Edited 496d ago )

It's multiplayer component was the only thing struggling at launch but the game was still perfectly playable offline. Done dirty is an understatement because how many games after came out with broken online components that got a pass? Now games with an SP and MP get separate reviews for SP and MP smh! SONY shut them down as if Evo had been bleeding money instead of putting out great games. Their fate was undeserved and they were the targets of a media smear campaign due to that one trailer.

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Knushwood Butt496d ago

Loved it.
Now here's a game that would benefit from a remaster.
4K, 60 FPS
I'd buy it.

ravens52496d ago

Might have to fire it up. Got it day 1, it was great to me.

outsider1624496d ago

See? Another reason why physical is important. Going all digital will have you miss out games like this.

Gabrielmpf496d ago

I loved tackling the leaderboards. It's a shame they couldn't even keep them.

Yi-Long496d ago

Brilliant game, I really miss it, and it deserved so much better than what Sony did to it.
Most important reason I liked it; It was FUN. That’s it. The actual gameplay,throwing a car around corners, the challenging AI opponents, the entertaining tracks which were peak-design, etc etc, it was above all just FUN to play.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv72766d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut85766d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio766d ago (Edited 766d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack766d ago (Edited 766d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander1972766d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff2183765d ago (Edited 765d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim766d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno766d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff2183765d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger766d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai766d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC766d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear211448d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.