Spin spin spin sly-lupin!

Wow! Sly-Lupin is really at good spinning and cherry picking facts! Nintendo have barely sold 3.625 million Wii U consoles a year since they launched. That is a horrible figure! Consoles usually sell 10 million units per year. PS4 has already passed them in less than a year and Xbone is about to pass them in a year. I think Nintendo will be able sell 25-30 million Wii Us at most. That will be the extent of their recovery since they completely squandered their one year lead.

uh no. PS3 will never reach Wii numbers

It may be inching closer but Nintendo abandoned Wii years ago now. PS3 and 360 are still selling mostly due to the huge delays of MOST of the new gen games promised for the new systems. Not to mention the dual gen ports of current releases to milk the market.

Ubisoft is abandoning them after this year. Other 3rd parties will follow suit.

If games like Batman, The Division, Halo and Uncharted were already out, and double gen ports ended, nobody would be buying the last gen systems but a select few budget minded individuals.

I'd only imagine PS3 outselling total Wii sales if a bunch of people wanted cheap blu-ray players and liked the idea of having a backlog of games to go through. Even then we're talking many years down the line, if even possible.

Well a comeback is going from a terrible position to a much better one. Thanks to more games WiiU sales have doubled in the second quarter compared to the last Q2. You can't say the WiiU has no games when they are on track to have 1 1st party game every month in 2015, especially when you consider their quality.

What's important is Nintendo making it back into operating gains, to where every financial bottom line is in the black. It's easy to overlook the bigger picture, which is Nintendo as a company depends on their game division excelling to even exist.

The generation is only just starting, and as a WiiU owner I couldn't be much happier with my purchase.

Dude everyone cherry picks the stats that make their console of choice seem the best. I am sure you have done it somewhere else or you wouldnt be critisizing him for trying to state fact that make ninte.do look good. Stop harping on someone for trying to state positive things about what the love. He didnt bash anyone he merely stated facts like you admitted. Get over it.

Besides last I checked Nintendo is making money now off of their hardware and software sales. Yet despite the PS4s amazing success, how are their finantials doing? Not so good as I have been reading.

So regardless of who is selling more it comes down to who is making money amd Nintendo is making money again. That to me would point to them being a success, not a disaster.

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Nintendo is not making a profit from its games division. Just yet- their profit was from interest income and favorable exchange rates - check their quarterly reporting - it is public info

They may (prob will IMO) make an operating profit this quarter w big holiday sales but they are not yet and it wil remain to be seen if they can make a profit for their fiscal year as a whole- This year they are selling Wii U s below their manufacturing cost due to write downs of inventory in their precious fiscal year so next year their cost basis for the Wii u will actually be going up

its a hard bet to make. hindsight is always 20/20.

After Driveclub's reception, hard to say it would have done well enough to compete. It's easy to dream of such a thing, but to make it happen? It's taken how long for CoD to be dethroned? And it was dethroned by Hogwart's Legacy and has gained it right back just the next year.

Futbol.

Agree that all you just posted are great games. Expedition 33 is one of my favorites. Spent a large chunk of time on BG3 in 2023. Another for my all-time list.

My point though not well articulated in the OG post is that we would get more of the games of the quality you mentioned if so many valuable resources were not allocated to FTP slop and/or heavy monetization schemes. Some of what used to be my favorite franchises have been ruined by them.

To sum it up, I would like to see games like 33 outperform the profits made by games like Fortnite so more resources are allocated to great games. When heavily monetized FTP games are at the top of the list, we end up being stuck with a significant chunk of games that are not good. Or worst case scenario games that spend years in development, but get cancelled due to industry trend chasing.

Perhaps, and I hope you’re right. A shift is needed IMO