I think a lot of people are playing it TOO much TOO fast. I am a level 27 hunter and I have my exotic helmet close to maxed out and all my armor (legendary) as far as it goes till ascendant shards are needed. To me, no point wasting ascendant shards when that gear won't get me to 30. Save it for the raid gear.

My schedule is pretty sweet with the game. I get home from work and I play the daily heroic mission on level 28 to get 2 ascendant materials every day (which only appears to be energy for me, rarely do I get the shards). Then I complete bounties for a little while. Lastly, I will do material farming for my gear/weapons or weekly heroic strike with my buddy. I recently got the Tolands Exotic Bounty which I have been working on the 25 strikes. So, the game can remain fun and fresh as long as you don't put in 6-10 hours a day like some people are. I average about 1-2 hours a day.

I am in no rush to get to 30, because like the author says, then what? I like working for something and I should be on par to getting to level 30 well after DLC drops and adds some new content.

Destiny is way too grindy. It feels like the developers don't want you to reach level 30. Having to earn ascendant and energy shards by doing the same missions over and over made me lose interest.

{Sorry about the wall of text, I just kind of started writing and rambled on a bit}

I like some parts of Destiny, it could be a reallly amazingly good game but it falls way short of that.

The reality is with Destiny is that it is just a DLC Delivery System.
It lacks content because they just want to milk the customer again and again with DLC.

The thing is, the gameplay mechanics in Destiny are great, it is solid and addictive gameplay, and the graphics are great too, which is why so many people keep going back to it, myself included... for a few weeks I kept logging on every day as I would be in the mood to play, but when I got on it was a struggle to find anything to do as I had already done almost everything repeatedly.

The reality is the game is very short and can be completed easily in just a few days, and then it is purely about doing the same missions again and again and again and again.... trying to get loot, but for what real reason?

Even the events such as Queen's Wrath and Iron Banner are just exactly the same stuff as we have already played but merely presented in a slightly different light.

If the story was amazing the game would still be too short but you would be able to see where they had spent their time on the game, but the story is almost non-existent and to call it a story is laughable.

People talk about it is normal to grind in an mmo (and I use the term mmo loosely of course), but even in a game like Guild Wars or WoW, you cannot complete the game and everything in it within a week..... it takes a long time.... and the grind is just ONE of the things you do in it, usually to get cool stuff to use in other parts of the game. Now no-one with any common sense would expect Destiny to be as large as GW or WoW, as it is not the same thing, but they are aiming for something similar and yet the game is remarkably short and conspicuously empty of content.

Destiny is a bit like a gorgeous model with no brains and a crap personality... you keep going back as she looks good and you can't help yourself to pop round when you fancy a bit.... but soon after you realise that she is an idiot and make your excuses and leave.... until the next time she asks you to pop round for a go and then you forget the dumb vacant expression in her eyes and the stupid shit that she says.... you are too busy thinking of the great rack on it and are heading to see her.

I think Destiny was a wasted opportunity and such a shame as it could have been a truly awesome game. I think the DLC will be very underwhelming and most likely only be around 5 new story missions, a few strikes and a raid or two, a few more maps for crucible and a few weapons... not enough to justify £20 and certainly not enough to transform the game into what it could have been.... that said I will wait and see what the DLC holds.. you never know.

I have warmed up to this game a lot since release.

At first, the sting of it not being Mass Effect, Borderlands, and Halo all wrapped up into one game, stung.

Now, teaming up with two friends to tackle the nightfall, weekly and the raid is a ton of fun.

You can hit a nice rythmn with the game if you only play it a little bit a day. Do the bounties and the daily....level up your weapons. then put it down.

The PvP in Destiny is like an evolution of Halo. Better IMO.

If you beat the hardest fight in the game, then no, there's no reason to play really. This is not different in normal MMOs. But with those, you can at least unsub for a bit and come back when content is released (which isn't that long). Once I do VoG I'm trading in Destiny because that's really all there is to do.

MMO's and the like CAN be completed, contrary to popular opinion.

Game is not a pure mmo. But it does share elements to one. No other FPS has raids. Nor farming. Now before the ADD kids cry themselves over it, and before we get Destiny is just grinding.. LOL

How long does it take to get full gear in raids in most MMO? Exactly. sit down. Now about diablo.. 3months to get that sword you want. Again sit down.

New content arrives in DEC. The majority would or should have gotten to LV30 by then. Which is great since guess what? Another raid in there. And that should last till next expansion. Before you say "Down below has ONLY.."

This game is not big already, and how many hours you put in already? Smart bastards bungie is. "players are leaving" they didn't get the memo since Destiny LFG site crashed cause of traffic yesterday.

Anybody raiding add me on ps4? level 28 Titan cuz I seriously need people to raid with I got like none!

they acted like it was an mmo, and it seems like it was supposed to be an mmo... but something happened along the way...

Destiny is the greatest fps of all time. Period!

It has max polish, lacks depth after the black garden. No one wants to grind endlessly on a "non-mmo" game, because that is exactly what MMOs are... the never ending grind.

I play it because it is fun. I like the game play. Yes it nice toget better gear and reach a higher level, but that isn't why I play Destiny or any other game. I'm married with 2 children, full time job, mortgage, etc.... I game every night to relax and have fun. So ranking up, which is nice realy isn't the reason of why I play.

it doesn't help that bungie made the higher level stuff invite only. like, why would you take away matchmaking from a game that's heavily reliant on its online aspect? VoG, heroic and nightfall events should all be matchmaking enabled. bad choice by bungie.

if you judge it by MMO standards it would be utterly atrocious. the economy is non existent, the level of content is severely lacking (especially if you were to compare it to an MMO) and the loot system is incredibly flawed. and it doesnt have nearly the diversity and divergent paths that MMOs typically have. the world of destiny just feels empty.

Wonder If I will get it at all now was going to get it when a gaming lull hits next year , by the sounds of it no one will be playing.

What is the point of progressing towards level 30? The point is to be able to play the most challenging content, currently Vault of Glass on Hard, which is also where you can find much of the best loot in the game. Is it difficult to understand why people into Destiny would be attracted in the most challenging content and best gear? Seems obvious enough to me.

Destiny may not be an MMO, it is in fact an Allways online shooter. It does, as said many times before, have many elements from the classic MMO's. That said, I have stopped playing it. Destiny is IMHO a very barebone AOS, with not nearly enough variation. Same bosses over, and over again. It just gets tedious after a while, but that's only my opinion. But I have to admit. Destiny was very addictive while I played it, maybe even too addictive...

On one hand you have people claiming it's an mmo. On the other hand you have people saying that it's not an mmo. So why is that? Simple. Everyone has their own opinion. But is that opinion correct? Who knows. But I can tell you this much. I have over 300hrs logged in Destiny. I spent a lot of time on my Titan character. I never created a new character because too behonest, in mmo's or rpg's I only play as one
charcter all the time. Personal choice I always say.

After playing it for so long I realized a few things. Here's what I gathered from the game.

-It's not a massively massive online game in any terms.
-It has FPS based objectives, not rpg.
-Gaming Community is mixed between mmo and fps gamers
-PVP arena is generic. Present in mmo's and in fps multiplayer games.
-Raids are tailered to provide best available gear and guns. This is mmo based.
-Gear, guns and materials collected outside of raids is not specific to the mmo genre. This element was founded in rpg games in the early days before the mmo universe begun.
-Bungie doesn't want to change the environment and setting. Instead they want to
expandon the planets. In mmo's they either change the environment and setting or they create a new place entirely. Bungie went a different route.

At the end of the day you need to look at this in a whole new way. The approach Bungie took was to change the way we play games. They created something new and innovative and nobody seems to understand it. But this is what I came up with that might help.

-Create a new abbreviation. Instead of calling it mmo or rpg. Call it this. MCORPG
(Massively Cooperative Online Role-playing Game), I believe this term is the right fitting for this game. First off. It keeps the vision of Destiny to be "massive" alive. So one day it can live up to that letter and meaning.

Secondly. It showcases a revolution in gaming. A new way to play games. Soon other developers will want adopt this abbreviation to use on their projects. No longer will they be separated by those generic abbreviations. Just look at "The Division" It's trying be innovative. It has most of what Destiny is. The abbreviation fits.

Thirdly. You can support this ambitious project by Bungie by using this hashtag #MCORPG. It's time to innovate and it's time for a new genre. Let's create history.

Almost 28 , still enjoying it , so i'll keep playing.

Yep very true Destiny is experiencing the same bugs and problems as any other mom except Destiny isn't a MASSIVE MULTUPLAYER mmorpg and after a few hours it's boring and repetitive.

It needs to be massive player therefore you get all the wonderful elements of are these players friend or foe like any PC MMORPG-fps.

Well what is the point of playing video games in general. You buy a game, you enjoy it and then move on. You hit level 30, you can wait for Bungie to release more content, raise the cap and keep playing. Whats the point of playing COD, Halo besides passing time, playing with friends and getting some entertainment. You pay for the entertainment and then you move on. This game is not supposed to answer your purpose in life. As with all other games and MMOs, there is not light in the end of the tunnel. You enjoy the trip for the money you paid or wasted and that's it....

This game bores me.

problem with destiny is you can only have a fireteam of 3 and that sucks... it needs the ability to team up with more players in a squad...

So the people complaining about it being repetitive..What game isn't? What game do you not do the same thing over and over again? TLOU, your either playing the same story or the same MP maps over and over again. Same with COD, Battlefield, etc. Final Fantasy, once your max level, and have beaten that game, whats next? Grind some more, that's what. Have you beated GTA5? Guess what you have to do now? The same things you were doing during the missions but at your own leisure. Steal a car, rob a store, shoot some people, repeat. If you want to break it down, once you have beaten MOST games, that's it, nothing but repeating what you have done before if you want to continue playing. Unless it's an actual MMO, this is the case for your favorite game.

It's funny how people complain about no content after putting 50+ hours in a game. I'm 70 hrs in. If they don't release any more content I feel like I've got my money worth. There are plenty of games that I've paid $60 for and I haven't put 30 hrs into.

Well Matt, the point is you need to be a higher level to run the raid in the upcoming dlc. They are increasing the level cap to 32. If you are not interested in that then there is nothing more for you to do. Sell your copy or trade it in......noone cares especially about whiney journalists or article creators, whatever....people have there own problems.

I just play it for fun and if i get bored of watching t.v ( on my xbox) but am a level 26 i do want to progress further but its to hard and slow to level up. Its not really an MMO is it? its just RPG with multiplayer and aliens thats it really.

There is already talk about new level caps and armour/weapons in the next expansion so don't waste 200hrs making your character into a Ferrari, because with each new expansion they will downgrade you to a Ford and you'll have to start all over again.

Can't wait for Halo on my ps5.

I always thought Guitar Hero was boring the button clicking with the plastic guitar also got annoying. I played it twice with friends but I was also drunk and stoned. There are people who like Destiny but I never liked the game.