its only going to get better. Just sit back,relax and let sony do their thing

I myself will not buy a ported game. I need solid reviews and Previews before I spend 64$-
Games are here-

Show me these Xbox games I want to play? (with XMB)
umm...Yah Halo/Gears that`s it... The rest we share.

The PSN will catch up this year and so will the third party... The Numbers are out The attachment rate for PS3, is gonna bring the devs in.

^ I think domain prices should go up,too many fanboys can afford websites nowadays.

MGS4 took over 4 years to develop exclusively on the PS3 with a team of hundreds of developers and a Hollywood budget. I don't understand why all of a sudden people are expecting a flurry of great games to be released, I doubt many had the level of dedication and work put into them like Kojima did with his piece.

I'm waiting on KZ2 before I get a PS3. I can't find one single reason to buy one until that comes out. I want killzone now.

It's not Sony's fault that they built a Console that was future proof and had more advanced technology. But I do think that as developers get more and more used to the PS3's hardware that PS3 games will eventually end up edging out 360 Multiplatform games in every aspect.

I really respect 3rd party developers like Konami, Digi-Guys, and SquareEnix for developing PS3 exclusives and actually trying to get the most out of the PS3.

I also have to give Insomniac a pat on the back as well for distributing PS3 Dev. kits to help other 3rd party developers to get more up to speed with the PS3.

One of these days these 3rd party developers will wake up and realize what kind of games they can make with the PS3's power and the extra Blu-ray space. After seeing and playing MGS4, a developer had better be saying, "Wow, we can really make some awesome games on the PS3 that we can't make on the Xbox 360 if we know what we are doing".

Dude,, quit making these lame excuses just because your a broke @ss mo fo.. There are like 10 games I could name for a reason to buy a ps3. You obviously arent a true gamer cause anyone , even xbox fans, have reasons on why they would want a ps3. Killzone 2? Dude,, your a lost cause. Go back to your 360 or your last gen systems cause unless you were living off of welfare, you would beable to afford one. They arent that expensive, I've seen Cell phones that cost more.

Nah, that article should have been written a year ago, it might have had some teeth. Most devs have already turned the corner and know what has to be down. i think seeing a little group of talented guys like media molecule really shut alot of lazy devs up. If they can do it why cant EA?

Also the industry is so huge now, but some companies still want to scrape buy on games that cost a buck fifty to make. If you want to do something like that, theres an ideal place for it. Its called PSN but it still demands quality and polish.

If you just want to spew out cheap crap or simply uninspired, mediocre titles, they belong on Wii and XB respectively. That sh*t can still fly in some places meaning those games will still sell. Just not on Playstation.

At very least they came up and admitted it, which i think, is an early step to solve a problem

(Cough) I call BS on this!!!!

Who's fault is that when it comes to third parties? Poorly written spin on the issue at hand. NG4 really needs a quality check on some of these guys.

Theres really no better option. :) WOOOT. SOny 4 Life

Developers have taken notice on how PLAYSTATION®3 can benefit them from a profit standpoint and a technological standpoint. Metal Gear Solid 4 is an artistic demonstration of the technological prowess of PLAYSTATION®3. Xbox 360 simply does not have the muscle it needs to compete with a superior platform that Sony created.

Gaming companies now see where the light at the end of the tunnel is. PLAYSTATION®3 gives developers the chance to recognize their 100% vision unlike the competing garbage console. Bioshock will definately be a far superior game thanks to 2K Boston finishing up what was started on PS3.

How does it feel to have an incomplete version of Bioshock Microslaves?

$niper

many of you say that the PS2 was just as hard to dev for an many developers put of great games. well..... this time things are a little differnt!! last gen the xbox 1 an the gamecube were almost non existent. if a developer wanted to build a game an wanted the best chance of selling it they HAD to go with the PS2. there were really no other options. this gen, developers can decided not push next gen graphics save a few bucks an have a large fanbase an develop for the Wii. or they can push next gen graphics, produce a great game not spend a WHOLE lot of money, also with a large fanbase that buys lots of games an go with the 360, or they can push next gen graphics on a system that cost more than normal to dev for an has a smaller userbase thats particular about the games they buy therefore they buy less games, which would you risk your money or company on. this gen developers have OTHER OPTIONS. I understand that the PS3 userbase is GROWING but its still the smallest an the PS3 is still the most expensive an the hardest system to dev for. i know all of that will change with time, but how much time is gonna be needed!!

horrible news for the ps triple

ps3's only good game (MSG) took years and too much money for most devs

ps3 doomed? possibly...

Are going to get wise that every time they buy Microsofts crappy system and when it dies on them and keep doing it again by keep buying the same system and die on them again, you don't think they wont get wise hell I use to be one of them I only purchased the first XBox once and when I got the "RROD!" I never bother to got another one and when Microsoft introduce the XBox 360 got that to and got "RROD!" as well I didn't bother getting a new one

so I guess the real corporation that s scamming the public is Microsoft cause its been 3 years and they still haven't fix this problem at least when Sony had there problem it didn't take them 3 years to fix it with PS2

and since when have PS3 games been dropping left and right?? if your thinking about Getaway and Eight days then your mistaken because those are postponed!

For being such a high quality title. I understand going after crap like Conflict: Denied Ops, but this sort of takes fanaticism to a whole new level. But I guess it was inevitable. Once there's nothing bad to complain about, I guess you just have to complain about what's good.

The article provides no proof that "Sony admitted lack of dev support", only that Sony wishes to do a better job of supporting developers make the transition to next-generation titles. If you want to compare, Sony did very little to help fledgling PS1 developers, and PS2 developers were hit with multi-core architecture (three to be exact) with almost no help from Sony.

With PS3 though, they not only get full documentation (as well as countless research articles) on Cell, Sony has also provided two different graphics engines and libraries for third party devs. Yes, the architecture is harder to get into. But it's more of an issue of learning parallel processing, an issue that applies to both Xbox 360 and PS3.

mgs4 has 8-9 hours cut scenes total, it took me 33 hours to complete the game. the cutscenes are awesome, like the matrix/die hard/jurassic park/clover field awesome. its a game that a real gamer shouldnt miss regardless.

Get a life. Better yet,, go play some video games instead of making everyone in here upset about all the stupid things you say. Especially since your opinions and almost everything you say makes no freakin sense. I bet your fun to be around at parties, Im being sarcastic btw.

for fanboy morons to run their mouths.

yes we all knew there was a lack of good games for ps3. so what is the point of this article???????

there isn't one...unless you include they are trying to inspire fanboyism. as gamers we should stop worrying about this stuff. we should be pissed at sony and microsoft for taking this too far. until this generation, things were NOT like this. i just can't stand the way people talk to eachother. ps3 fanboy running his mouth against a 360 fanboy and vise versa. it makes no sense. you both are products of corporate garbage. play the games, enjoy them, and STFU. and don't support this nonsense.

the only people dat dnt want to develope for the ps3 are western developers and what this shows is that they are bots and wud rather take the easy route and develope for a crappy broken rrod system

p.s for those who dn't no which system i was on about, the 3fixme XD

This article would have made sense 1 1/2 years ago when it was true that developers had a hard time coming to grips with the system. But look at the multiplat games now, most are at minimum equal to the 360 counterparts. The fear of bad ports are long gone.

but now it's ok because Sony said it right?

There you have it Fanboyzzzzz!!! I say in about 12 months they will admit to a complete failure with the PS3 and Blu-Ray. Its just matter of time guys. You guys have reigned on the glory of the ps1 and ps2 long enough. Dont feel so bad I know you feel Duped on spending all your money or I mean all your mom and dads money on a system that well...... hasnt really deleivered on anything that they promised to you. Dont worry you still will have the PSP.

Dont hate because you wish you could play MGS4. Dont worry you have too human coming out soon.. A game that took longer development time than MGS4 and probably more money. And a game which is already getting bashed and looks pretty freaking horrible... Lets see what kind of exclusive games the 360 can push out now.. Since gears 1 i havent seen anything special on the 360.

JokesOnYou - Dude you are on some rocks.. Tell me one 360 game that compares to MGS4 graphically?? Gears hell no. cod4 hell no. I play cod4 all the time and after playing MGS4 you can really tell the difference between the 2.. Mgs4 looks better overall and just some of the stuff that happens during mgs4 is insane. Like the opening scene or act3.. actually everything.. lol. I have yet to see one 360 game with so much detail.. Gears 1 is definitely the best looking 360 game to date.. But it has nothing on MGS4 or uncharted.

Nothing is FACT here so keep that in mind. But plenty seem to think their "SH^T smell like ROSES."

You have to imagine that "This Gen" will "NOT" be like Last Gen".

Everyone loyal Sony fan is holding on to some notion that Whatever happened last gen is bound to repeat. I just don't see that happening. Again IMO, for things to start happening like before, even though Sony is picking up sales, the console has to start selling like "really kicking @ss by 100s thousands" week to week, and month to month for Sony to take that LEAD in "NA", and that is just for 2Nd place.

SONY's EDGES

1. Sony will continue to sell consoles, to people that are not gamers and just looking for Blu-Ray thrills. You have to understand that when Sony sells a PS3, It makes you wonder, how many are buying extra games or multiple consoles for their "video hardcore viewing pleasure." That's 1 thing we do not know. Go ahead to the AVS FORUM and you'll see it is a Factor when you look at sales.

2. Ok looking at how the 360 does in Japan(better than Original but not so well) that's another Factor that gives Sony PS3 the world-wide edge, but this Gen the 360 is holding it's own in it's own back yard and needs to do better in EU. Which is important IMO. Japan either will come around or never

3. Sony will sell consoles based on their past isntall-base with the PS2(if and Whenever they decide to upgrade) but whatever MS might do, to somehow thwart that, which involves paying for "Timed exclusives" or making games go "multi-plat". This is a little part of the strategy to bring fans that are not that "loyal" but wanna play games based on what they can afford, into the mix.(Whatever that game is and the price point of the consoles when it comes out)

**What MS/Xbox 360 is doing to Sony**

1. Those are the EDGE Sony have gotten. While very big Edges, I feel like the Xbox 360 is now more established do do better then the Original Xbox did and is in a good POSITION with developers, because of it's "Install-Base" and the "Ease of Development" and "Online infrastructure/tools/support&q uot;.*****

2. This is what's changing the "Console war" looking at this Gen and comparing it to the last gen. MS still needs more 1st-party studios and Sony is still slacking in some areas.(THIS ARTICLE IS FOCUSING ON THAT) As time goes on, We'll see what these hardware can do that really sets them apart, or we might never really get games that really embarrass the other, in terms of superiority, given the Pros and Cons of the Console's hardware Infrastructures. Ask some "fanboy" and they will be quick to tell you otherwise, since thy know the future.

3. The suppose system sellers for Sony...well they are not that many left, as far as games that's suppose to make everyone upgrade. Remember guys, the PS2 sold over 120 million devices. Yeah the number is a little generous(Given the hardware issues and many buying multiple consoles) but also it really take off, after the MAGICAL PRICE POINT of $199. This gen we have 2 other "console competitors" that will reach that point much faster. The Xbox 360 having a mugh BIGGER "diverse gaming library" when this takes place, with more games coming out. As well as, the Wii will have plenty of new games. The PS3 will be last to do so with it's price point, I think. Thus another Xbox 360 EDGE to steal Market-Share to them non loyal fans that shop depending on what they can afford or parents at the time.

**SONY will have to rely on NEW IP's(Big name 3rd-PArty Exclusives are DISAPPEARING)

1. Metal Gear Solid is PS3's best Exclusive and if it sells the same as the last one, then it won't do as much as it's suppose to outside it's fan-base SCOPE. Sony will need help from other games. GTA4 was suppose to be one of those games and I do not think there was a BIG SPLASH like Sony hoped to do. The prices have to be right when some of these games do come out or the BIG games will not sell well until most can happily afford it.

2. Again with MS's Xbbox 360 install-base, you just can't Ignore it and the DEVS are starting to learn that themselves. Not much Loyalty left. Developer will go where you can make the most BUCK. Currently between Sony and MS, it's on the Xbox 360.

3. IMO, all the games pushed to 2009 from Sony, really helped MS and the Xbox 360's line-up in 2008 and they are pretty much even with the 360 getting the edge for RPG's. Let's see, you have FF, GT and GOW as potential System sellers for Sony, everything else others may post, is all a big "????" with them new IPs and such. So we'll see.

END - Not every game will get the SUPPORT/MAN HOURS/BIG HOLLYWOOD PROJECT BUDGET/100+ MAN TEAMS,as some of Sony's biggest games. Especially MGS4 which was due to do very well with that name and being the last in the series alone. In terms with the Article, GAMES Cost way too much(these days) and MS is making a STRONG case for "Why not bring your game to out Platform". Looking at the FACTS why not? Sony is feeling the pinch..

MGS4 couldnt be done on the 360.. Look at mass effect.. that game had so many issues and its nowhere close to the quality of MGS4.. I have yet to see a game on the 360 that can transation from cutscene quality like MGS4 or ucharted to gameplay seemlessly.. Name one if you know one?

360 fanatics will do anything and talk down anything until they have nothing left.

I've never seen fanatics like this kind... for real.

When you see the 360 getting outsold everywhere by the PS3 and I mean EVERY damn corner and when you see a game like MGS4 that proves clearly that real next gen games can only be developed on the PS3 and when you see these fanatics criticizing something good because they don't have it.....

that's when you know these fanatics are becoming zombies...

It's pretty sad.

360 fanatics are worst than sports fanatics... They give "fan(little kids) a new meaning.

:)

Sony didn't admit that they didn't have developer support - read the article.. They stated

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"Mr Yoshida said: "Sometimes we struggle to convince them (third-party publishers) to put more resources into the PS3."

He added: "We know there's a lot more that we can do, and with the massive growth of the industry we understand that third party publishers have so many choices, many more than they have resources."

Mr Yoshida told GamesIndustry.biz: "Because the 360 hardware was out earlier, the games were built based on 360 architecture. But still, they must have been planning to...release (the PS3 game) at the same time with the same quality. So they massively underestimated the effort that was needed to re-architect the game to property take advantage of the PS3's multi-core architecture."
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which is what they said all along
DEVELOPERS UNDERESTIMATED THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE X360 AND THE PS3. It's not that they aren't developing is that they were not developing with the right mindset and with enough resources as the general launch assumption was that x360 would port easily to PS3... whereas the reverse is true.

Also notice the implied time frame for his follow up statement - before developers started using the PS3 as lead platform.

The PS3 is a bundle of new technology. Yes that will make it more difficult and more costly to devolop for, for the time being. I believe that devs will catch on and the costs will be comparable to the 360. The PS3's world wide user base is growing and they have some very attractive titles coming in the near future. I bought a PS3 because I was intrigued by the cell and blu ray combo and I knew their were going to be growing pains as there is with any new tech. Yes, a lot of patience is needed to be a PS3 owner but I would rather watch the future unfold in front of me than to sit back and b!tch about the new tech Sony incorporated into the PS3. Or maybe we should just go back to 16 bit cartridges?

what devs left?

Valve? SCREW EM

but really

who left and said 'WE WILL NOT MAKE PS3 GAMES"

yea

silly flamebait

Firstly, thanks to everyone that has attempted to contribute something meaningful to the discussion, it's great to see such a lively debate.
Just to address a few things mentioned by everyone:
The article was written taking a broad overview of current opinion, developer reports and past news. Quotes were included so you could choose what to make of the comments as you saw fit. I did include a little tongue in cheek jibe at Sony, mainly because, just like GMH and Ford, you gotta pick a side. It's more fun that way. But the article was about statements made by Sony, not by me.
I'm enjoying reading through everything, keep on writing!

Yeah, makes sense since Ps3 is selling a lot more units worldwide. "Oh, hey we're selling more units than our direct competition. I think nows a good time to quite!" You're a true genius.

Both systems are doing fine so stop making up bs.

weak ass PS3

Just like they did the Dreamcast.

Can you say, 'Dreamcasted' Phoney?

HA HA HA HA!

this race will show hands down who will still have their console selling 8-10 years from now.and who's strategy was better.

people talk about it being hard to make games on ps3.but exclusive devs on ps3 show that it's not that hard to do.and are ready and willing to show other devs what they SHOULD be doing.remember those white coats one dev spoke of?they seemed to one dev to be like doctors or scientists at sony.don't know what you're doing?sony is just saying,"ASK?"how hard is that?

it's not about money.you don't need a whole lot of money to make a mega hit.it just has to catch on and be fun.it just so happens that ps3 can handle NEXT GEN graphics if you are willing to put EFFORT in making NEXT GEN graphics if you WANT to..

the problem is microsoft has allowed devs to be lazy.porting games from PC.running simple engines that 360 can handle without putting any effort in it.the proof is in the games.microsoft has all that money,but halo3 turned out to be BESTED by COD4.

how do you let a third party dev outdo you on your own d@mn system?

that's pitiful to have all those billions and your inhouse games can't even hit the sweet spot of 720P.and halo3 was not the only 360 game that couldn't.what did microsoft spend the REAL money for halo3?on MARKETING.and it worked.but the game wasn't what it could have been.but then i thought making games on 360......WAS SO D@MN EASY?

if it was so easy,all games on 360 should be hitting 1080p,60fps and all that.but it doesn't.but i thought it was so easy?but instead devs like EA love 360 because no effort has to be put into making a game.and since VALVE is made up of previous microsoft employees,their lazy too.won't even make a patch for a game to support fans of their game.arrogant and lazy.true devs push the envelope.but not 360 devs.not PC devs.

PC devs look at 360 and say,"look how many games we can port over to 360."even if it's junk,"hey!"360 gamers really buy games."they'll by our junk too."

but ps3 fans KNOW BETTER.EXPECT BETTER.even sony has held back games or cancelled games because they too,expect BETTER from their own devs.and patient gamers like myself are willing to wait for BETTER games instead of,as YANIKINS said some time ago,"MCDONALDS" GAMES OR "BURGER KING" games that you only get on 360.do you see fast food games being made on ps3?HELL NO.burger king bullsh1t.

you can have those games.games that don't push the envelope and devs who really don't care what you play because you buy anything for achievements.how many points did the burger king game get you really?i mean....REALLY?sony will continue to show devs what they can TRUELY make if they want to.and i'm patient.i got a console that looks like it will last ten years.do you have a system that will last ten years?

apocalypse........

failure after failure...
pwnage after pwnage...

the Sony haters keep on losing and get more frustrated.
go for it kiddies, you entertain me!

My name is SONY and i lack third party developer support. Acceptance is 50% solution to a problem. Good for u Sony. At least you're not arrogant anymore.

This article is brutal and written by a xbot Fanboy. OMG you can voice chat with xbox? WOW I do that everytime I'm playing CoD4 with my friends too FOR FREE!...oh btw I didn't pay for the maps for CoD4 either because I used my friends account on my ps3 so I got them FOR FREE. XBOX SUCKERS!

I must have missed the memo that the PS3 has a lack of support! :)

I've not turned on my 360 since finishing Mass Effect, yet my PS3 gets used just about every day - even the Wii gets played more than the 360 at the moment!

Sony seem to have finally got over the 'arrogance' period it went through a while back - I seriously disliked the company at that point. Now they seem to be stepping up, admitting mistakes and actively trying to fix them.

Also, the article seems a bit dated. My feeling is the industry is starting to sway back towards Sony. I'd be surprised if most multi-plat devs are not seriously thinking of the PS3 as lead platform.

Both consoles have their strengths and weaknesses, but Sony's increasing momentum could be enough to see off the 360, which in my opinion seems to have hit a plateau.

Hahahaahh

THIS is WAY "TOO 2006", wake up and get a PS3 if you wanna play AAA games during 2008 and far beyond!

lazy ass

Sony fanboys don't.

I think when you go to a studio and ask them to make a PS3 exclusive the first thing they will look at is if they can do the same thing elsewhere for less time and money to an equal standard. Most times the answer is yes.

People also say that MS throw money at exclusives. The reason being the can probably wrap up three or four exlcusives for the same cost as Sony wrapping up one so why not.

Is this "difficult to program for PS3" crap still going round? i thought wev established by now it isnt hard, its DIFFERENT, NEW, doesnt make it hard,it can be done look at the masterpiece MGS4, if hideo can do it why are the others just saying its too hard and quiting? lazy unskilled devs

nuff said...................

To count the PS3 out at this point seems to be ludicrous. In fact, seeing how Sony is rocking the market and just released a GOY contender, dev's will be taking this a little more seriously. The install base just increased by around a half million or more in a couple of weeks and if you think devs aren't gonna play MGS4 and marvel at just what they themselves could accoplish, you are seriously mistaken.

These developers want to make a qucik buck but in the long term the way of Multicore Development is the future everyone knows this,..
Why post pone the inevitable with that 360 and pc maxed out engines that are waining!!'
start leveraging parallel processing and give us living breathing worlds!
not boring FPS FPS FPS FPS FPS PC 360 crap over and over and over

Make some money while you still can on xbox 360 and use the funds to create a ps3 game!
Better hurry, I hear the xbox 360 has hardware malfunctions!

LOL!
The war is over!
Kiss that generic piece of crap goodbye!
Fable 2 = Joke!
Too Human = Joke!
Gears Of war = Joke!
Xbox 360 = Joke!

Isnt it FUNNY?!?
LAUGH WITH ME!!!!

The XBOX 360's best are multiplatform either on a PC (Personal Computer) or on another TV console. In the end the future of gaming is what how you develop games for the PlayStation 3. I can see Microsoft doing the same thing the next generation, whenever that starts.

It's just common sense the more you put into a game the more difficult it will be. You can't expect to make a Metal Gear Solid 4 game with ease. The more things you put on screen the more complicated it will get. It's they go the easy way with the XBOX 360 not wowing everyone or work hard to make an amazing game not see on TV consoles before. The choice is theirs, it's more powerful there for harder to develop for.

Over time the cost will change and the architecture knowledge will be more main stream. In general people don't like change but in the end change is usually a good thing.

captain obvious. This has been known since the console came to fruition.

Reading through this thread about games that are great (on both consoles) and the like i see one game that has been missed. I think we will all be able to agree that Fallout 3 is going to be fantastic when it comes out later this year. Then all the 360 and ps3 fans can gather together and be happy and play some fallout 3 :-P

Glad to see that Sony has left that arrogant bullsh!t at the door. Big deal, for a system that "has no games" it's still whooping the 3rd60 like a little b!tch.

Sony Whine Force Activate

It's the console, slow drive speeds and all that uncompressed data on that slow Blu-Ray drive, the lack of ram Sony fans are still in denial about. Install your games, then uninstalling those games to make room for new installs, and installing them again when you want to replay an old game. Then you have the Cell, what a mistake that was. Notice it's realy only Sony that supports the cell? because they have to, they are stuck with it untill the PS4, which I bet any amount of money they don't use the cell again. The cell is like trying to learn a new language from scratch, without any reference to start with.

so fun to watch sony fanboys get all pissy over their 3rd place console with a small game library.

dance, monkeys, dance!

I think alot of you are missing the point.

Of course it took time and money to develop these games, most games do.

I'm not sure how much diff you'd see from gears of war, there would be some, but not as much as you think. Still got blurred away backgrounds, same looking stuff. I don't blame them for not changing it, as it worked the first time, and will again.

The PS3 is different, in the fact, that most games that came out early on the system, only use the ppe, none of the spu's. The newer games such as Uncharted used ppe and spu's(you can see the difference)

Motorstorm 2 will be using alot more, and what you saw of it is nothing. 40% done is correct. It will stamp ms1 into the ground.

But the point i actually came here to make, was the fact, that although budgets for certain games are big for ps3, they will get smaller and smaller over time, using same engine, only more versatile using spu's off the bat. Quicker to code, shared community. It will become easier.

But hey you'll be watching e3 footage soon enough:)

ENjoy

you sony fanatics talk allot about fanboyism... do you ppl even read your own sh!t? so kojima made you a frikin awesome movie, great for you sony fanatics. you guy's only waited over a year for your first AAA game.

Why should devs work twice as hard for a PS3 game when the game will sell TWICE AS MUCH on the 360?! Case in point is GTA4.

There has yet to be a developer talking about PS3 being easy to program for, and there probably never will be.

MGS4 is the epitome of what I hate about Sony. They listen to forum trolls as though they represent the entire gaming populous when, in truth, what Sony SHOULD be doing is paying major coin for a KILLER FPS from a VETERAN studio...not some Insomniac/Guerilla crap.

MGS4 will NOT have the impact all of you are hoping for...not even close. You'll see over time.

The PS3 has a lot of problems. Hard to develop for, constant installs, bad textures, RAM issues, and on and on. The worst part is that even with all these problems, its still more expensive than the 360! The PS3 just seems like a pain in the azz. I don't know what Sony was thinking with the PS3. I just don't. (That said, I don't regret buying a PS3 for one second. If I didn't buy a PS3, I would have missed out on great exclusives like MGS4, uncharted, resistance, killzone 2, little big planet, etc. Also, I got a "free" blu-ray player.)

Disagree all you want but when MGS4 dies down its a wrap for PS3 for a long time. Sony will start focusing on a New Blu-Ray player ystem around September. Gears Of War 2 will kill everything around it in November whether we like it or not.
You guys are absolutly right about Gen wars not being won on graphics but games. From the looks of my like Xbox got it locked on games right now. Square-Enix alreadly listed 3 RPG's for Xbox that includes the all of a sudden now famous Star Ocean that PS3 Fans are crying should be exclusive to sony's console.

Anyway. Once i see about 10 disagree i'll now that you dudes are in denial and im right. Damn Alan Wake is looking pretty interesting right about now too.

Disagree all you want but when MGS4 dies down its a wrap for PS3 for a long time. Sony will start focusing on a New Blu-Ray player system around September, Gears Of War 2 will kill everything around it in November whether we like it or not due to the press and advertising it gets.
You guys are absolutly right about this Gen wars not being won on graphics but games. From the looks of my liking Xbox 360 got it locked on games right now. Square-Enix alreadly listed 3 RPG's for Xbox that includes the all of a sudden now famous Star Ocean that PS3 Fans are crying should be exclusive to Sony's console. Men Lie,Women Lie but the numbers don't. Oddly enough those 3 RPG's From Square will warrant a little bit of burn in Japan but if your still banking on Xbox taking over Japan your an @sshole. That like waiting For Michael Jordan to suit and win a chip for the Bulls just cause its been awhile.

Sleeper Hit to watch out for - Halo Wars

Anyway. Once i see about 10 disagrees i'll now that you dudes are in denial and im right. Damn Alan Wake is looking pretty interesting right about now too.
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Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.