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Metal Gear Solid 4: System Seller?

Metal Gear Solid 4 is just what long-time fans had hoped for. But is it really the kind of blockbuster hit that can move systems at a time when Sony needs the boost? PS3 Informer argues that it will please long time fans but is unlilkely to move new PS3 hardware.

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clinker6537d ago

The game might not sell a lot of PS3 hardware, but I bet it will sell a lot of copies of the previous games, as newcomers go back to see what they have missed.

Then later they will grab the game for ps3.

sonarus6537d ago

What are you talking about. 1st week of sales show increase in sales that even the 100 dollar price cuts couldn't match. It probably won't last but it will sell systems for at least the month of june.

pharmd6537d ago (Edited 6537d ago )

i think the bundle was a great idea.... even where i was buyin the game there were 20 or so people in line for the bundle at midnight!

@ below... good point, i was actually surprised my friend got one, he had a wii but said he's been waiting for this game to get his ps3

juuken6537d ago

...Whut?
If this game didn't sell hardware, then I don't know what will. I knew a few people who were waiting for a game like this to get a PS3.

mikeslemonade6537d ago (Edited 6537d ago )

MGS4 is a system seller but not the kind we normally see. It's a different kind of system seller because it's selling systems to the hardcore and the MGS fan base. It isn't like a Madden 2001 or a GTA Vice City where it got the casual audience. MGS4 is primarily selling a lot of systems to the hardcore.

ChampIDC6537d ago

Heck, I'm not a Playstation fan, and if I had money to throw around, I'd still buy the console for this game. Unfortunatley, I don't have money to throw around. I'll get it some day, even if I have to wait for a $50 PS3, haha.

LordXenu6537d ago

mgs4 increased ps3 weekly sales by 148% for the week

do u still call it non hw mover?

N2NOther6537d ago

143% isn't much. The initial shipment was around 70,000 units. Selling 70,000 units in one week adding up to 143% means it wasn't selling much. The game is amazing, but reality is, this isn't the system seller Sony wanted or needed. Of course people will buy the system to play the game and to that end, it is literally a system seller.

LordXenu6537d ago

78k PS3s were sold in Japan vs 120k ps3s in Us. around 150k ps3s were sold in these regions. add europe and u have over 200k.

How much did halo3 increased sales for xbox...not as much as mgs4. plus this is more like a permanent boost in Hw sales in us atleast. you would see ps3 Us sales when NPD is in

the sales would be very high too this week

Silver3606537d ago

people loved the game and that 100 dollar store card so the system was selling like crazy the last week

N2NOther6537d ago (Edited 6537d ago )

@LordXenu

I'm not saying Halo was a system seller. So not really sure why you would bring that up.

But for argument's sake...In the month directly following Halo's release, 360 sold over a million units. And in the week after Halo's release it sold almost half a million units. And let's not forget that this is essentially 2 markets because they have barely sold that many units in Japan since it's release. So it's likely those numbers can be directly related to Halo 3. Which, if so, would most certainly mean it sold more 360s in a week than MGS for PS3.

And if you really want to be technical, just look at the size of Halo's fanbase vs Metal Gears, now, mind you, I find MGS to be superior to Halo in every way imaginable (save for a Forge and the ability to save video).

No single MGS has sold as many copies as any Halo game and the last MGS (Snake Eater) sold just over 3 million.

My initial point is that a 143 % increase in sales, when you look at the amount distributed, isn't really that high a number. It's an average based on what was sold before. If you sell 1.4 units, and the week before you sold none, then you have a 140% increase. Look at the small allocation, the size of the market and you see that the number is gussied up to look better than it actually is.

It's all about perspective. I'm sure I'll get a bunch of "disagrees" which is fine, because I don't expect common sense and rationality to prevail on this matter anyway.

Ju6537d ago

If you through around numbers please put the season into the sales context. Its not Christmas. No one sells 1M right now. Nonetheless, MGS4 pushed the PS3 to number 2 globally, right behind the DS. Hasn't happened in a long time - for any other console then the Wii.

AceLuby6537d ago

"If you sell 1.4 units, and the week before you sold none, then you have a 140% increase."

No, you have an infinite increase and who sells 1.4 units?

100,000 units to 240,000 units is a 140% increase, and more than doubling the units sold is a big jump. Not only that, they shipped out less than the demand... You don't think that the bundle being sold out everywhere had something to do w/ it?

Secondly, this game is getting absolutely stunning reviews. Every magazine, paper, and other periodical, whether or not it has anything to do w/ gaming, has said 'something' regarding this game and most of it is 'I can't believe how good this game is' or 'I wasn't expecting the graphics to be this good' or 'This is the best gameplay of any game ever'. You don't think reviews like that will move consoles? You don't think that casuals would want to play what many are considering the best game ever? I know what MGS has done in the past, but there has never been a MGS game w/ this much hype AND this much delivery. Heck, there haven't been many games period w/ this much hype AND delivery. To think consoles won't be moved (which it already has done) is naive to say the least.

Montrealien6537d ago (Edited 6537d ago )

All I know is that judjement day has come and gone and we can think of other things now, like, oh I don't know....games? And to think this amazing game did not sell any systems is just plain wrong, the June numbers will show this. This is THE game playstation fans, and videogame fans a like have been waiting for.

And even if the 360 goes down in sales for the next three years, and the PS3 keeps gaining like it has been this year, we will still have two amazing consoles that have a big enough user base to encourage companies to make games for both of them, hence keeping them in competition trying to better themselves wich in the end make anybody who has both consoles swim in an amazing pool of awesomeness. All this while fanboys stroke their little e-peens among each other as they always do in forums and comments sections, fantasy creatures must have a place to think they matter right?

and lets not forget, all this is happening while Nintendo, the original king of consoles, sits on top of it all smoking cigars rolled in money spitting out a few good games a year while the casual market gets all those "other" titles that keep them happy.

hate me because I got all three current gen consoles and enjoy all games, but in the end my gamer path is the one of a true gamer and keeps me one step ahead of any brand whore fanboy.

I`m not sure if I`ll get a open zone ban for this, was I to harsh? lol

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Condoleezza Rice6537d ago

The definition of 'move'="To change in position from one point to another"- http://www.answers.com/topi...

Ps3s on Store Shelves-Person walks in to purchase Ps3 system specifically for MGS4-Pays enough money to have the Ps3 system removed from the Store shelve and put into his/her hands.

So;The Ps3 system has changed in position from one point to another.Thus,Metal Gear Solid 4 moved Playstation 3 systems.

In conclusion-Metal Gear Solid 4 is a system seller.

JokesOnYou6537d ago

in comparison Bioshock sold 490,900 copies alone in the US from Aug 21-31. 360 hardware sales rose to 276.6k for the month. In Sept Halo3 sold another 527k consoles and a record breaking 3.3 mil units for the month and it didn't even release until the end on Sept 25th. I'm pretty sure Gears sold alot of hardware and software as well.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...
http://www.xbox360fanboy.co...

I think its safe to say if theres such a thing as system sellers those games definitely fit the bill.

JOY

sumfood4u6537d ago

MGS4 made History for its sales. If you think that scarry wait to U see FFXIII Bundle, an Watch how People who own a PS3 will still buy this RPG~Bundle! Final Fantasy will Blow Competetion out the water & get GOTY!

CrashSharc6536d ago

I love how we are debating whether MGS4 is a system seller, and JOY just walks in and says defending Halo3 and Bioshock as system sellers.

lol, what a tool.

BigKev456537d ago

It was a great game, but once you beat it once that was it for me.

Metal Gear Online couldn't keep me playing. Next game to pick up will be Soul Caliber 4.

ChampIDC6537d ago

All depends on your preferences. It's definitely an experience for at least one time. I don't see why so many people are disagreeing with you. It's like they want to force you to love it so much that you'll play it 8 times through >.<

BigKev456537d ago

I think that's what it is, ChampIDC.
There are too many fanboys on this site.

GarandShooter6537d ago

Maybe they're disagreeing with your opinion that it's only worth a single playthrough. Maybe they don't think Soul Caliber 4 is the next game to pick up (although I do). Way to play the fanboy card though...

RememberThe3576537d ago

Dude they disagree with his opinion. Thats all it says. Why the hell to people try to draw conclusions from such little information?

BLuKhaos6537d ago

well heres a bubble to offset the disagrees

Voiceofreason6537d ago

I see no reason to disagree with someones opinion just because it isnt the same as yours when it comes to one game. Facts I'll disagree with but it takes a special person(In a rides the little bus to school kind of way) to argue over someones opinion.

otherZinc6537d ago

That was a killer post, you removed all doubt as what a system seller is.

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jamesrocks31476537d ago

av reported this its a load of rubbish

TheWickedOne6537d ago

PS3 console had a 110% increase the week of MGS4 release. So yeah it sold a few hardware, lame.

TheWickedOne6537d ago (Edited 6537d ago )

I guess the people who disagree don't know how math works.

RememberThe3576537d ago

Dude post a source, than start talking numbers.

TheWickedOne6536d ago (Edited 6536d ago )

http://vgchartz.com/weekly....

I know chartz is off a little, but still proves the point. They actually have it at 113%, I read 110% some where else.

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Konami Delists Some Metal Gear Games From Digital Stores Without Warning

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker HD have been delisted from digital stores without warning.

cloganart86d ago

I mean, it makes sense. With Vol.2 coming and all that

Commentby86d ago

Stupid headline. Should state that they are being updated or discontinued. This makes the crazy people that only read headlines think it some kind of conspiracy to take away peoples already purchased games.

jjb198186d ago

If you want to all of a sudden own them now and haven't played them yet because a remastered is coming out, shame on you. I can't believe people are complaining about this 15 years later when it was bound to happen anyway. "A new remaster is out, quick, I'd better buy the original from the shop."

gigoran886d ago

Gamers: "Physical? who needs physical? everyone knows that digital online games are the future. stop living in the past. we don't need no stinking disc drive"

Same gamers: "How dare the delist a digital game that I own!!!!"

computeSci86d ago (Edited 86d ago )

And? What is your point?

Same gamers: "How dare the retailers to delist (quit selling) a physical game that I own!!!!"

I think you just read the headline and don't know how dilisting works with Sony. It's common knowledge that:

"Players who already bought the games will still have them in their library and can download and play them as usual."

So again, what is your point?

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX800d ago (Edited 800d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro799d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72799d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_799d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga799d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23799d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000799d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin799d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole799d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix799d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989799d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989799d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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