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Everything wrong with Destiny, and how Bungie can fix it

VGFirst presents their in-depth, component by component analysis Destiny while providing their recommendations on how Bungie craft the game into something more. Covering all aspects of the game, from the Crucible, to Strikes and Raids.

Evil-Gouki4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

As an evolving title, I'd imagine a lot of the pve elments you talk about, more raids, vendors, armor etc will eventually be added to the game. Look at any online title after a few months/years is a totally different beast to that which was available in the vanilla.

FriedGoat4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

Yes, knowing Bungie's support for their games and the games' supposed "10 year life cycle" I completely expect Destiny to evlove to an even better experience (although I'm having a great time already).

cleft54270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

The important thing is that Bungie can fix Destiny. Destiny is the type of game that isn't set in stone so it can be fixed and transformed into something much better. Yes Destiny has problems and I am glad the game isn't being praised universally because it does have glaring issues, but the core of Destiny is really good.

As far as the story is concerned, the story isn't bad it's just not really there but what is there is solid. However, Bungie made the mistake of hiring these big time people and that is going to cost them a lot of money that could have been spent on better stuff. I play Destiny and I feel like far too much of their money went to actors/actresses and marketing. It makes sense now why they fired Marty O'Donnell but that was the wrong move as the music is undoubtedly the one stand out thing about the game.

I feel like Bungie had to start cutting cost and rather than getting rid of overhyped Hollywood talent they decided to cut things critical to the game, like the music director and content out of the game. Destiny is not a complete game, give it a month or two and maybe then Destiny will live up to the hype.

joab7774270d ago

Yeah. It's a launch and it's good to see articles like this b/c that's what it is all about, evolution.

Maybe there needs to be 2 PvP, normal and iron banner. In iron banner, EVERTHING is like PvE. But the other mode has more balance. But, I do NOT want different classes to have the same HP and damage output. It's meant to b class based so u have roles to play.

Maybe have 1 mode where everything is the same. Then see how popular it becomes.

As far as single player content, I like it so far. It shouldn't be easy to gear up...at all! And it is rng. That is an mmo. There are multiple ways to do it.

For factions, they do offer different attributes but maybe a little more variety would be nice.

I love it. I just wanna play it.

pompombrum4270d ago

In regards to supers and grenades, I've just came to the conclusion the game was never meant to be balanced and bungie are aiming for fun for the most part. Having said that, completely agree with the weapon balancing, it's not fun having auto rifles being so much better than everything else.

AKS4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

It's frustrating to me because ammo efficiency is so much more important in PvE, as high level enemies take quite a bit of damage to take down. I put my upgrades into my best scout rifle for PvE, but it's very difficult land enough shots on PvP enemies to knock someone down with people floating in every direction while dropping grenades and supers all over the place. If you need to land multiple shots to the head, they can just run behind a corner and have all their health back a second or two later. Standard ammo really isn't a big issue in PvP, so you can blast away without much penalty, making assault rifles considerably more dangerous. In Halo, the base assault rifle had much less potency in PvP, meaning you had to land more shots to finish someone off.

I don't want a repeat of most weapons feeling a bit anemic (with the exception of sniper rifles) in Halo, but I think a bit of balance is needed regarding how it is so much easier to kill with auto rifles. Give the single-shot primary weapons a bit more potency per shot.

I don't want every character and weapon to be identical; I just want some adjustments to the powers and weapons being abused and underused. Start with modest adjustments and tweak from there. I also want supers to stay in PvP, but perhaps tweak some of them a bit. The Titan insta-kill is getting old. I'm tired of getting the upper hand of someone only to get insta-killed at the last second. It's so quick and can kill everyone on an objective. They can just run into the room and press the shoulder buttons to win.

BTW, I'm really surprised that fusion rifles weren't mentioned. Those things are pretty dangerous.

ramiuk14270d ago

aye was thinking same.
i love my auto but i wanted to start using the pulse etc and felt very underpowered,so went back to my auto.

loving the game though.
1 question to anyone and thanks in advance because im low on bubles(bubblew votes always welcome )
regarding vex,fallen etcdo they have weakness to certain weapon types?

AKS4269d ago

The best advice I could give you on killing the Vex is to shoot them in the white weak spot in their torso rather than shooting them in the head. Thus, a scout rifle, hand cannon, or sniper rifle will obliterate them if you are accurate.

If you hit them in the head, they just go crazy and charge you, making the fight more difficult.

amnalehu4270d ago

I nee really understood how a game could be unbalanced. If a particular weapon seems OP'd, simply start using that weapon.

AKS4269d ago

That's much of what has happened. Most are using assault rifles, shotguns, and fusion rifles. I'd like to see all become viable. I think adding a bit more punch per shot to scout rifles and hand cannons would help even things out given auto assault rifles aren't penalized much in PvP the way they are in PvE. I really haven't tried pulse rifles in PvP, but it seems there are similar complaints about them lacking the punch they need to compete with assault rifles.

CoyoteHunter4270d ago

I know there have been a deluge of articles on Destiny lately, but I really appreciated this one. Really hit the nail on the head; certainly it's what I have experienced.

Tedakin4270d ago

The main thing wrong with it right now is once you beat the campaign and are trying to level up you're just kinda stuck doing the same missions you've already beaten over and over again to find the Light armor. And finding the light armor is completely random luck.

martinezjesus19934270d ago

Not true, you can also play crucible, which gives you reputation points to rank up on a certain faction, then buy the gear for yourself, you get them faster by doing the bounties. Plus, I just got a bounty that will give me an exotic weapon after i beat 5 strikes without dying, its not random considering its practically a given ill get it afterwards.

GearSkiN4270d ago

It's random bro, I have found 5 legendary things, while my buddy only have gotten 1.

martinezjesus19934269d ago

@Gearskin. Yes, the loot you pick up is random, but there are other ways? I have leyendary in every slot, yet only two have been from pick ups, the others i bought from either the fwc vendor with my crucible marks or from my guardians leader with my vanguard marks.

Gamerbeyond4270d ago

content, content, content, 1 raid wont cut it, with a handfull of missions, this game should of had ALOT of content from the start and expand from that,

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Star Wars x Destiny Collaboration: Gear & Cosmetics Launching February 4th

Destiny 2 x Star Wars collaboration is here! Get exclusive gear, cosmetics, and accessories when Heresy launches on February 4th. Don’t miss it!

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coolbeans486d ago (Edited 486d ago )

Fortnite-ification comes for all live-service games.

Neonridr485d ago

now this is an armor set done right.

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Destiny Mobile spin-off will reportedly be revealed very soon

The long-rumoured Destiny Mobile game from NetEase may finally be ready for reveal according to multiple leakers.

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Xbox Passed On Destiny & Guitar Hero According To Phil Spencer

Phil Spencer talks candidly about missing out on both Destiny and Guitar Hero

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anast634d ago

He paid billions for Starfield. This should be the real story.

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Sciurus_vulgaris634d ago

Microsoft bought all of Zenimax Media for 7 billion, while Sony paid 4 billion for Bungie. I think Microsoft got the better deal due to acquiring Fallout, ElderScrolls and Doom.

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anast634d ago

This can't be true. They only bought Starfield...

InUrFoxHole634d ago

@anast
Should've thought that one out buddy, lol.

anast634d ago (Edited 634d ago )

Yeah, I thought it out. I'm not sure you did. But since we are buddy's now, you're welcome.

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anast633d ago

"Clearly your parents didn't teach you"

You know you lost, when you have to resort to this tactic.

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Profchaos634d ago

So you're saying that Microsoft has missed out on so many huge gaming franchise in the last 25 years from GTA exclusivity to guitar hero and destiny it's just laughable they had so many misses

Reaper22_634d ago

Yea, but they're still 100 times more wealthy than Sony. I would say it worked out well.

Gamingsince1981634d ago

Xbox is dead all that money doesn't help.

Hypertension140634d ago

What has work out well? It sure as hell had nothing to do with Xbox.

andy85634d ago

That isn't because of Xbox though. This is a gaming page, not an I get supplemented by father Windows page

Bathyj634d ago

Microsoft's money has nothing to do with Xbox.
Xbox is a money pit to them they would love to ditch but are after some ROI first.

Let's face it, Xbox is like a red headed stepchild that steals from you to buy drugs.

Hofstaderman634d ago (Edited 634d ago )

MIicrosoft is NOT XBOX. The current situation illustrates this. And Microsoft wants its ROI.

@Bathyj and daddy Satya has just force admitted Phil to rehab.

gold_drake634d ago

you know why MS has so much money, and it aint cause of the gaming xbox branch.

so lets not kid ourselves.

PhillyDonJawn634d ago

Xbox was shown to be more profitable than ps

jznrpg634d ago

@PhillyDownJawn not more profitable. More revenue with ABK acquisition but them going multiplat shows they are not making much profit

ocelot07633d ago

That's great for Xbox gamers ain't it that Microsoft are more wealthy than Sony. Is that really a argument use are using now lol?

Imagine me in my job. Arguing with a fellow security guard at another company. Hahah well the company I work for is worth £800m the one you work for is only work £600m!

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Knightofelemia633d ago

Microsoft may have more money but Sony has the talented studios and the games to back up those studios.

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Chevalier633d ago

Plus turning down Marvel too. Spiderman is only exclusive to Playstation because of that

Hedstrom634d ago

Best deal deal in gaming must be when Sony bought Insomniac for 229 million dollars. They made over 800 millions on Spiderman for the ps4 alone. Thats just crazy!

XBManiac634d ago

More in the 1.000 million now.

gold_drake634d ago

another Interview?

how is he the only one who loves the spotlight as much as he does lol

Futureshark634d ago

Let's not forget he also famously passed on Spider-man, Genshin Impact and GTA3.

However it's almost kind of cute how he can keep that sh1t-eating grin and say he's a 'no regrets' kind of guy, especially when you think how much just these 5 titles could have swung the world in Xbox's favour instead of Sonys.

How he's kept his job I don't know, he must sure be keeping Papa Nadella's shaft warm somehow.

"But, but Gamepass, he introduced that!!!"

Yes he did, and now look at Xbox, all it's exclusives are coming to Playstation now rendering the platform obsolete.

DarXyde633d ago

Honestly, with that kind of track record, you can't convince me Spencer hasn't eaten it from the back in the name of self preservation. Probably unwashed...and at least twice.

That aside, my interpretation of everything here is Xbox has been mismanaged a bit too much and Nadella came down from his throne. The way it is now, I don't believe for a minute the multiplatform move was Spencer's idea. I don't even think the acquisitions was Spencer's work. At this point, I reckon he's got as much power in his role as Hunter Biden at a Ukrainian energy company.

DivineHand125633d ago

You can never tell how things will turn out if he had said yes to those games. Xbox already has access to some great IPs, however, they hardly do anything with them or fail to deliver. It's also possible their presentation wasn't good at the time, and they made sure the next presentation was better.

I believe that part of being successful is releasing things in the right place at the right time.

Many major corporations have a story similar to passing on successful business ideas. Let us look at Sony Pictures for example. Back when Marvel went bankrupt, they had the opportunity to buy the entire Marvel for only $25 Million but turned them down. An unnamed big shot at Sony reportedly claimed that “nobody gives a shit about any of the other Marvel characters,”. They ended up taking Spiderman for $10 Million instead.

https://www.avclub.com/sony...

Fast forward to today, we can see what the Marvel brand has done for Disney. Is it possible the same success would have been possible had Sony acquired those IPs. We can't say that for sure and it is possible most of those IPs that are successful today may not have been used.

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