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Dear Bungie, We Apologize...

Destiny walked its own personal firestorm in the wake of the “Gamergate” controversy which had put the ethics of video game journalism under a magnifying glass. Bungie's title was the first major release since the “games journalism boil” ruptured and it appears in an attempt to secure the mindshare of gamers out there, Destiny was dragged across the coals for no other reason other than a distraction from the news of what goes on behind the curtain.

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Yo Mama4268d ago

Good and very interesting point of view. I'd never considered this.

DoublePlusGoodGames4268d ago

It's a bit of a stretch with the #GamerGate thread, but I've always known that any time you scratch the surface of the inner circle of games news that there's a price to be paid. Case in point, I still remember when Strength Gamer was verbally attacked on Twitter by Ben Kuchera over a benign tweet about 'possible nepotism' in the press.

I'm up to level 14 and have enjoyed 90% of my experience with Destiny thus far. Sure, there may be issues with the groan inducing dialog but I've rarely encountered a game, book or movie for that matter that didn't make me do one of these ಠ_ಠ. I've been playing with some of my old Rainbow Six 3 friends and have met some new friends along the way. No other game in the PS3 or PS4 library has made me increase my friends list as much as Destiny and the game is less than a week old.

I'm not saying the game is perfect and I feel that I'll find more plusses and minuses as the weeks go on. That said, I definitely feel that I had to do what I could to come to Bungie's aid on this one.

Not that they needed my help when your game does $500,000,000 in one day of sales, but...

donthate4268d ago

I can say that my experience has been quite the opposite of yours. I loved Halo and used to love Bungie. I really really wanted to like Destiny, and I tried, and tried and tried to no avail. Destiny is a hollow shell.

I knew that when I tried the beta, proceeded to ignored the red flags of lack of early reviews, and foolishly let the hype get me and doubled down $90 on the digital guardian edition.

Even my girlfriend says, you look bored and not as animated as when you play Titanfall. Who can blame her, she has been watching me play Titanfall for six months.

I don't doubt people enjoy Destiny, but it is an average game, and as a consensus on metacritic is pretty spot on. It is a 70 game!

This is a lesson in, don't hype up your game if you can't keep up.

XBLSkull4268d ago (Edited 4268d ago )

This game has done as expected. I was certainly excited as a Halo fan to see Bungies next product. Screenshots looked great. Red flag went up though when they started showing gameplay, wasn't nearly as magical has Halo, it just seemed, well, boring. Beta confirmed it. Final game and reviews all say it. This is not the studio it was once before. I think the heart of Bungie was transplanted and is now the heart of 343i.

The 75 or so metacritic average is completely fair for this game. The 5's and 6's weren't, but those average out.

TheRedButterfly4267d ago (Edited 4267d ago )

Seems pretty try-hard to criticize Polygon, Kotaku, Gamespot, The Escapist... Not saying it's ++ is a bad site, but I've never heard of it until now, and I'm /pretty/ sure that respected sites are respected for a reason.

IMO, Destiny, at release, is a solid 7.75. Will future content additions make it better? Hell yes! It'll be loads of fun. (Hell, it's already fun when playing with friends.)

But boil it down? Destiny (again, at release) is nothing more than open-world Horde mode. It's like making a game out of ME3's multiplayer, only on a MUCH bigger scale. The only problem? Destiny is trying to be so much more, and it... well... it just isn't...

Destiny is at its best when it's just a typical FPS... which is sad.

iNFAMOUZ14268d ago

nah nah nah you alreaDy hated on the game, cod loving kids
you cant take it back

DoublePlusGoodGames4268d ago

Wait, what? We generally don't hate on things so I'm genuinely curious as to whom you are referring to. Also, we were big fans of CoD4 and look forward to what is coming out in November.

From everything we've seen the new CoD is looking good thus far.

xDHAV0K24x4267d ago

I'm not a cod kid. I don't hate it but I only paid $30 for it so I thought it was worth a shot for 2 months before Halo MCC releases. I don't regret buying it. Only at level 8 and so far it's alright.

EinRobot4268d ago

The game is dull. The locations are lifeless. The game play is repetitive. Gamergate had nothing to do with the bad reviews. Borderlands did it better.

Aleithian4268d ago

Borderlands is a great comparison to show how hollow Destiny is.

Xsilver4268d ago

you can remember every single character from borderlands1/2 even the smalls ones that's one reason i like borderlands more than destiny so much life in boderlands.

Phene4268d ago

Yeh ..if u like the game cool, in fact I had some fun moments. But that doesn't take away from the overall fact that the game is hollow. And I can't believe these guys had the nerve to say story doesn't matter...wow.

DoublePlusGoodGames4268d ago

My favorite games for story have been the ones found in titles like "Journey", "Ico" and "Shadow of the Colossus". In the medium of games, I personally feel that "minimal dialog made up by tons of experience" is key.

I have had more memorable stories from games like WoW, FF XIV, Rainbow Six and others through experiences I have had with the gameplay. Taking down a huge creature, resurrecting a friend moments before the end of a battle, a weekend of questing, THOSE come with hundreds of stories.

Stories are majorly important to games, but they should be different than the scripted kind of story you see in movies or games like Uncharted & TLOU*.

* BTW, I personally loved Uncharted & TLOU. But those stories pale in comparison to what I pulled out of a game like "Ico/SoTC".

Phene4268d ago

Ok @doubleplusdgoodgames ..I can respect where your coming from and I wholeheartedly agree, those critical moments during strikes and boss fights do come with their own stories and in fact that was by and large the most fun aspect of Destiny. However, heavily scripted or subtle ...your personal experiences shouldn't be what replaces or has to make up for a games own story. I mean Destiny was pitched as this epic story of a Traveler saving humanity and I'm thinking man this could be some really interesting adventure. Except I barely get a cutscene, instead I get a machine that spews a few lines and I wait to shoot something. Differences of opinion I suppose, but I'm just calling it like I see it ...and Destiny comes off weak.

jdiggitty4268d ago

The thing that slapped me most about how weak the story is is that I accidentally completed it with 2 story missions left to do on Mars. How does that happen?

Johnsonparts234267d ago

Story doesn't matter. At least not for multiplayer focused games. When was the last time a cod or bf game had a good story? Oh that's right, never. Yet they consistently get 8's and 9's. The media are tools in every medium, especially gaming.

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DoublePlusGoodGames4268d ago

I was a HUGE fan of the first Borderlands and absolutely loved playing the game with friends. Even the intro movie was flipping hilarious.

Picking up with Borderlands 2, I enjoyed that title, but I didn't have the same level of enjoyment as the first. Not saying it was a bad game by any stretch, but definitely not as laugh out loud enjoyable as the first.

All that said, the writing in both Borderlands is superlative to that of Destiny but I've always thought the best written Bungie game was Marathon.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ4268d ago

I don't like Borderlands, I like Destiny... You see, not everyone thinks like you ;)

EinRobot4268d ago

Its not a matter of taste, its a matter of execution. The world of Destiny is repetitive and hollow. It is not a ten year formula. They have to go very big with this game and very soon or mark these words. The interest will fade, its not as ambitious as they first made out. Can you honestly tell me the world of Destiny can even come close to living up to their nod to an mmo or persistent world that they leaned on early in marketing campaign?

UnwanteDreamz4267d ago

See this is a mission these haters are on. You say you like the game and he cant accept that you think its good. Man this is borderline obsessive behavior by some. Grow up and let other have their opinions.

MSBAUSTX4267d ago

@EinRobot I agree. I would like to point out a little game that came out not so long ago named Titanfall. I lost interest in that game after one week. I fell prey to the hype engine on that game and I was really entertained for literally 5 days. I traded it in and bought COD.

Now I am not saying that COD is better than Titanfall or Destiny. I am merely saying that there is still something to be said for single player campaign. Hell even WOW has story and lore BIG TIME.

I canceled my preorder of Destiny after the beta because of the seemingly lack of story and repetitiveness. I am not saying anyone is wrong if they bought and enjoy Destiny. We are not going to all enjoy the same games and to think otherwise is completely ignorant.

Bungie made their mark on the gaming community with a game that had Both incredible story and amazing competitive multiplayer, Halo. They did not do that with this game. It has incredible multiplayer for sure, but lacks in the compelling story and content that I PERSONALLY enjoy in games.

@ GUTZnPAPERCUTZ I don't like Destiny, I like Halo....You see, not everyone thinks like you do. ;-)

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mcarsehat4268d ago

Stop putting GATE on everything, it isn't clever.

DoublePlusGoodGames4268d ago

I never did like that "gate" moniker as it shows a lack of creativity in the media. Personally, I'd use something more like "#TheGameisUp", "#Gamesmageddon" or "#RedRingsExposed" for the last few weeks, but I'm not in the position to make those kinds of decisions.

That said, I only used it as it's become part of the vernacular in the past few weeks and I completely agree with the stupidity of 'GATE'-ing on everything.

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Star Wars x Destiny Collaboration: Gear & Cosmetics Launching February 4th

Destiny 2 x Star Wars collaboration is here! Get exclusive gear, cosmetics, and accessories when Heresy launches on February 4th. Don’t miss it!

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coolbeans480d ago (Edited 480d ago )

Fortnite-ification comes for all live-service games.

Neonridr479d ago

now this is an armor set done right.

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Destiny Mobile spin-off will reportedly be revealed very soon

The long-rumoured Destiny Mobile game from NetEase may finally be ready for reveal according to multiple leakers.

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Xbox Passed On Destiny & Guitar Hero According To Phil Spencer

Phil Spencer talks candidly about missing out on both Destiny and Guitar Hero

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anast627d ago

He paid billions for Starfield. This should be the real story.

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Sciurus_vulgaris627d ago

Microsoft bought all of Zenimax Media for 7 billion, while Sony paid 4 billion for Bungie. I think Microsoft got the better deal due to acquiring Fallout, ElderScrolls and Doom.

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anast627d ago

This can't be true. They only bought Starfield...

InUrFoxHole627d ago

@anast
Should've thought that one out buddy, lol.

anast627d ago (Edited 627d ago )

Yeah, I thought it out. I'm not sure you did. But since we are buddy's now, you're welcome.

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anast627d ago

"Clearly your parents didn't teach you"

You know you lost, when you have to resort to this tactic.

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Profchaos627d ago

So you're saying that Microsoft has missed out on so many huge gaming franchise in the last 25 years from GTA exclusivity to guitar hero and destiny it's just laughable they had so many misses

Reaper22_627d ago

Yea, but they're still 100 times more wealthy than Sony. I would say it worked out well.

Gamingsince1981627d ago

Xbox is dead all that money doesn't help.

Hypertension140627d ago

What has work out well? It sure as hell had nothing to do with Xbox.

andy85627d ago

That isn't because of Xbox though. This is a gaming page, not an I get supplemented by father Windows page

Bathyj627d ago

Microsoft's money has nothing to do with Xbox.
Xbox is a money pit to them they would love to ditch but are after some ROI first.

Let's face it, Xbox is like a red headed stepchild that steals from you to buy drugs.

Hofstaderman627d ago (Edited 627d ago )

MIicrosoft is NOT XBOX. The current situation illustrates this. And Microsoft wants its ROI.

@Bathyj and daddy Satya has just force admitted Phil to rehab.

gold_drake627d ago

you know why MS has so much money, and it aint cause of the gaming xbox branch.

so lets not kid ourselves.

PhillyDonJawn627d ago

Xbox was shown to be more profitable than ps

jznrpg627d ago

@PhillyDownJawn not more profitable. More revenue with ABK acquisition but them going multiplat shows they are not making much profit

ocelot07627d ago

That's great for Xbox gamers ain't it that Microsoft are more wealthy than Sony. Is that really a argument use are using now lol?

Imagine me in my job. Arguing with a fellow security guard at another company. Hahah well the company I work for is worth £800m the one you work for is only work £600m!

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Knightofelemia626d ago

Microsoft may have more money but Sony has the talented studios and the games to back up those studios.

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Chevalier627d ago

Plus turning down Marvel too. Spiderman is only exclusive to Playstation because of that

Hedstrom627d ago

Best deal deal in gaming must be when Sony bought Insomniac for 229 million dollars. They made over 800 millions on Spiderman for the ps4 alone. Thats just crazy!

XBManiac627d ago

More in the 1.000 million now.

gold_drake627d ago

another Interview?

how is he the only one who loves the spotlight as much as he does lol

Futureshark627d ago

Let's not forget he also famously passed on Spider-man, Genshin Impact and GTA3.

However it's almost kind of cute how he can keep that sh1t-eating grin and say he's a 'no regrets' kind of guy, especially when you think how much just these 5 titles could have swung the world in Xbox's favour instead of Sonys.

How he's kept his job I don't know, he must sure be keeping Papa Nadella's shaft warm somehow.

"But, but Gamepass, he introduced that!!!"

Yes he did, and now look at Xbox, all it's exclusives are coming to Playstation now rendering the platform obsolete.

DarXyde627d ago

Honestly, with that kind of track record, you can't convince me Spencer hasn't eaten it from the back in the name of self preservation. Probably unwashed...and at least twice.

That aside, my interpretation of everything here is Xbox has been mismanaged a bit too much and Nadella came down from his throne. The way it is now, I don't believe for a minute the multiplatform move was Spencer's idea. I don't even think the acquisitions was Spencer's work. At this point, I reckon he's got as much power in his role as Hunter Biden at a Ukrainian energy company.

DivineHand125627d ago

You can never tell how things will turn out if he had said yes to those games. Xbox already has access to some great IPs, however, they hardly do anything with them or fail to deliver. It's also possible their presentation wasn't good at the time, and they made sure the next presentation was better.

I believe that part of being successful is releasing things in the right place at the right time.

Many major corporations have a story similar to passing on successful business ideas. Let us look at Sony Pictures for example. Back when Marvel went bankrupt, they had the opportunity to buy the entire Marvel for only $25 Million but turned them down. An unnamed big shot at Sony reportedly claimed that “nobody gives a shit about any of the other Marvel characters,”. They ended up taking Spiderman for $10 Million instead.

https://www.avclub.com/sony...

Fast forward to today, we can see what the Marvel brand has done for Disney. Is it possible the same success would have been possible had Sony acquired those IPs. We can't say that for sure and it is possible most of those IPs that are successful today may not have been used.

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