further months sony will launch the update 2.0 with play share.

its a huge feature imagine ads of playing your friends games without owning them, or borrow a online controller.

Honestly November is the only questionable month for NPD, and that's simply because of Halo: MCC and the Call of Duty bundle.

As far as WW sales September is the only questionable month, with MS having their 29 tier 2 countries, there's a good chance they could come out on top. Even though it had the worst launch in the recent history of Japan 23k units sold is still a good boost, and to tie Sony they have to average 15k console sold per country. Japan may have been a horrible launch, but it's 8k above that average they need, and that number will grow (probably insignificantly) for the remaining weeks of September. So overall I think MS has September, but is a new console launch in those regions really a win?

XBO: 600k - 900k (excluding China, wildcard)
PS4: 700k
Wii U: 300k

MS needs these wins, or else the XBO's fate is sealed at least until 2016.

Congrats to Sony on the PlayStation 4's continued success. Fanboys speak loud....but gamers wallets speak loudest.

How????? No it won't.

@Ninver

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You will see how the PlaySaviour4 will carry the weight of the industry on its back and do wonderful and marvellous things you haven't seen before.

@ABizzel1

I don't see MS carrying September. They are releasing in regions that make up single digits in overall sales combined. The Destiny Bundle for Sony is flying off the shelves. Everyone I have talked too and friends and family have inquired about all say Sony is pulling in big numbers with their glacier white bundle. I personally know 7 people that picked one up and 3 of them already own a PS4. I myself almost picked one up.

TitanFall did nothing. Destiny isn't causing a bump for MS and neither will MCC nor releasing in a bunch of regions that don't pull in big numbers regardless. MS needs a big price cut or a huge bundle deal that also is significantly discounted.

MS doesn't have a pricing / value problem. They have a consumer confidence and image problem. Some might have forgiven what they tried to pull but most are afraid they will still try and implement their anti consumer policies sooner or later.

@ ABizzel1

The flaw a lot of people make and you seem to be making is that most of those 29 countries are not going to put up more than 10,000 consoles on their launch day. Japan is singled out a lot because they are a market that makes up a lot of gamers by itself. Same reason why the UK and US are. Notice the rest of the numbers are usually a conglomerate of "Europe" when released.

The PS4 will move 1.5 to 2 million consoles world wide in September, and Destiny and DriveClub (Oct 7th) will be the main reasons for that.

@ABizzel1

"Japan may have been a horrible launch, but it's 8k above that average they need, and that number will grow (probably insignificantly) for the remaining weeks of September" - You mean it will drop but a lot ;) There is little reason why the average will grow when there is no software for it you only have to look at PS4 there to see that.

Personally I will agree with what some others have said that those countries china maybe are going to do very little because if MS isn't taking the launch in most of these countries seriously then they themselves know the outcome. My post is in reference to this thread - http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Now to MCC and Cod. Honestly I feel a similar thing will happen like with recent madden sales when even with bundles sales PS4 versions still outsold XB1 versions. Even if the XB1 did outsell it the differences would be small.Halo MCC would be a TF like situation where the majority of people have already brought the XB1 in anticipation of Halo. Although it has been doing very well in preorders(at least amazon wise)

look at next year. x1 had more games for line up and PS4 crushed it. This year they have sunset overdrive forza and halo collection. Not sure that will be relevant.
TLoU showed the attach rate and moved lots of PS4s. Destiny and its white bundle in september will obviously drive PS4 sales.
I mean who really will skip Destiny or TLoU remastered to buy Sunset Overdrive? Also, first quarter of 2015 is rich in blockbusters on PS4 with bloodborne, The Order... so people want to choose PS4 to be ready for these games.
Hardcore Halo fans already own the x1 so i dont think halo collection will have an impact on anything.

@BootyBandit
First off those region make up more than a single digit sale, which is why the 360 sold almost 9 million units in Tier 2 regions, and over 1.6m in Japan. Launch of a console is often one of it's highest sells period in a consoles lifecycle as well.

Your friends and family don't represent every gamer, and mine's certainly don't, because if they did I'd be the only one with a PS4, while the rest are XBO gamers. Each of them bought Destiny Day 1, I'm the only one who doesn't have, because I didn't care for it.

I agree MS has a consumer problem, but price is also their greatest problem. Even at $100 less the PS3 was still outselling the 360, so with both the PS4 and XBO being the same price, and MS having a mixed image right now (bad among core gamers) there's no way they're ever going to consistently compete with PS4 until they're at a lower price, clean their name up, and get more quality games.

However, the launch sales of a console are ridiculously inflated. The X360 sales in Japan for example were 55k at launch, then later went on to average 1,000 per week (2% of the original launch). So yes I agree that sales are going to be low in most of those regions, but the initial launch sales boost could be enough in all of these regions to get the XBO close to the PS4 for the month of September. After that its sales are falling off a cliff. For comparison if the XBO falls off like the 360 did it's averaging 600 units per week in Japan.

@miks007

No, the flaw that many people are also overlooking is that you're counting a week of sales, where in many of these places the console is on sale for the entire month of September. Once again China is the big unknown. Even if 1% of the Chinese population are gamers that's still 13 million people the XBO has first selling rights to.

I'm not saying they'll win, September WW sale, I'm just saying this is their only chance to win WW numbers until most gamers are ready to buy a 2nd console. If it doesn't happen here then the XBO is in serious trouble because after September their WW numbers are going to drop after the launch inflation ends. They'll obviously go back up in November and December due to holiday inflation, but January will be stark for them. Which means $329 - $349 XBO.

@Kayant

I agree I think the PS4 version of COD will outsell the XBO version. But I think that for NPD, Halo + COD is practically screaming to the NA fanbase buy me. We have to be real and logical. Halo is Xbox's biggest game, and the MCC gives you all the Master Chief games in 1080p @ 60fps, plus access to the Halo 5 beta right after Christmas. This is a Halo's fans Christmas Dream come true, and it's going to move XBO's in NA, which again is why I'm saying they have a chance in November.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, I'm simply saying they have a chance in September WW sales (then sales will fall off a cliff), and they have a chance at November NPD and sales could stay fairly high through November - January.

If sales fall off again that $329 - $349 XBO is happening in February or March, right in time for tax season.

The fact Madden sold more on PS4 had to hurt since before console launches, MSFT really had a partnership with EA to make Xbone the EA Sports console.

ABizzel1

Comparing last generation to this one is a mistake in my opinion. The X1 is a different console when compared to the 360. The 360 was more gaming centric while the X1 is more of a jack of all trades and a master of none. It's more geared towards the North American consumer.

I think the Destiny bundle is going to be a substantial boost for Sony worldwide and it will offset MS releasing in all those regions.

In Japan alone MS numbers (X1 release) were substantially lower than when the 360 launched in the land of the rising sun. I think the same will hold true for all of the other regions as well. You say Tier 2 but you are not being region specific while doing so and you're basing your numbers off of a console that has been out for nearly 8 years.

When I say those regions make up single digits sales I mean in the overall worldwide scheme of things his generation for MS. So even if the initial launch numbers are decent or MS? I don't see them being enough to fill the void of Sony currently outselling MS worldwide by a 3 to 1 ratio. Especially when you factor in that the Destiny bundle will give Sony a substantial boost for September worldwide sales.

But maybe you will be right and I will be wrong. Either way it might be close but I think Sony will still edge out in front of MS. MS better hope I'm wrong. Because if they don't outpace Sony for the month of September, releasing in all those regions? They never will.

The Ps4's 2 big selling points this year in terms of games. Are a PS3 game and a Bungie game. PATHETIC and ironic. Congrats to all you early PS4 adopters. I'm really jealous. I feel I'm really missing out. Katy Perry sells A lot better than the music I listen too. I guess I'm wrong and I'm missing out. Don't give two shits about sales and popularity. Buying an Xbox One and going to love it.