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PS4's Paywall: Does It Matter? - Podcast Beyond

More than 130 weeks ago, Colin said PlayStation charging for online would be a mistake. Does PlayStation Plus solve the problem?

lifeisgamesok4266d ago ShowReplies(4)
gameon19854266d ago

Yea it matters when you are paying for crap. Always being hacked all ways down defiantly is not something worth paying for.

GarrusVakarian4266d ago (Edited 4266d ago )

"Always", he says. Gather round boys and girls, let's look up what 'always' means:

Always
adverb
1.
at all times; on all occasions.

Yeah.....

" all ways down defiantly"

Wut? Jesus, if you're going to troll, at least put some damn effort into your spelling.

gameon19854266d ago

Post your smart ass remarks all you want, but it still doesn't change the fact that PSN is garbage, and you still pay for it.

ScottyHoss4265d ago

My English prof would tear you a new one for using always when it's not constant ;) someone not pass grade school? (sorry N4G, I know he can't reply it's just I find monkeys typing hilarious)

RosweeSon4265d ago

Xbox live yeah? Neither are impervious to a hack or some downtime, first time I used my xbox 360 in the last few weeks load it up, xbox live was down, and I'm paying for that privilege

Kavorklestein4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

Liar. Everything I've read pretty much painted the picture that the downs ONLY affected diablo 3 gamers, and it was due to the DDOS attack on BLIZZARD'S servers that did it...Blizzard relaying info back and forth to MS servers etc.. and your downtime IF you played diablo 3, was brief if at all.

Not a full day, and not twice within two weeks like PSN, one from DDos, and the other one was just random and stupid.

I'm not saying PSN sucks, but it's NOT XBL.
And Xbl's ONLY downfall when compared to PSN is not having as many higher quality 'free games'
this is, of course my opinion, but I'm not gonna lie to myself either.

Kayant4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

"Always being hacked all ways down defiantly is not something worth paying for." - Wrong on both accounts.

captain_slow824265d ago

ps+ is an awesome service and the fact multi is behind the pay wall now i really dont care because i wont be getting rid of ps+ any time soon :D

RosweeSon4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

Exactly and at the end of the day sony have only started charging in the last year Microsoft have charged since day one on the original xbox yet ps3 is and still is entirely free to play online, has been for the whole generation so what it's changed for ps4 of you own a sony console your bound to get ps+ at some point even if it's for that months free games, great service won't be cancelling anytime soon.

As for the Triple AAA games that sony has been offering on ps3 and not on ps4 it's because they have 6/7 years worth on ps3, ps4 has barely 9 months worth and probably barely 10 games that could go up on the service, come Christmas when all the sequels start releasing you'll get your AAA games on ps4, killzone will be up by chrimbo and no doubt infamous or something like that. They never held back on the ps3 it may seem like they are on ps4 but what were they gonna do give you all the £50 launch games for free? Doubtful let's face it Microsoft wouldn't even give you any games day one, was a good 6 months later so it could be worse could be paying and getting no games at all.

DualWielding4265d ago

what sucks is that now that people are forced to subscribe to play online Sony has no need to deliver with the free games like it did on PS3 where it had to give triple A titles or people would simply not subscribe

caseh4265d ago

"Sony has no need to deliver with the free games like it did on PS3 where it had to give triple A titles or people would simply not subscribe"

This is what concerns me, on PS3 it was an option. An option I happily took once I saw some of the games on offer.

I guess we'll see how it pans out.

Kayant4265d ago

Well that will come soon. You have to remember -

1. PS4 is a new platform.
2. Publishers are less likely to make deals because they games still have a lot of value retail/digital.
3. Library is fairly small.
4. It took about a year for PS3 to get a AAA title on PS+ also when the service was introduced.

DualWielding4265d ago

That's all true but you have to consider:

1. Sony is obliterating Microsoft on sales unlike last gen

2. Sony was forced to offer AAA games on PS3 because subscription levels were very low before they did.... now that PS+ is mandatory subscription levels are very high

3. Sony is a business. if just requiring everybody to subscribe in order to play online is enough to have 90% subscription rate, why spend extra money in offering better games

Kayant4265d ago

1. "Sony is obliterating Microsoft on sales unlike last gen" - So? Value and Prices of games wouldn't change a pub isn't going to be more willing to do deals.

2. "Sony was forced to offer AAA games on PS3 because subscription levels were very low before they did.... now that PS+ is mandatory subscription levels are very high" - I don't know much on that but if that's the case it still took a year for a AAA to come to said service.

3. "Sony is a business. if just requiring everybody to subscribe in order to play online is enough to have 90% subscription rate, why spend extra money in offering better games" - The money isn't just spend on that though it's also spent on the service as a whole.

I mean look MS has more money than Sony/changed their policies on XB1 to sub based for access and are only offering downloadable/smaller scale titles.
You can't really expect them to be offering launch titles on PS+ so early on. Already the end of the year leading onto next year. Things should get better if not then there is a problem.

XtraTrstrL4265d ago

I don't like how it was announced way back. It was kinda sneaky how Jack ran past it in his talk. I don't like how they talk about games being free, you are actually paying for the games through PS+, so they aren't literally free games. That is a small annoyance to me whenever people bring that up. Other than that, yeah, the bonuses overall kill Xbox Live(whom only recently started giving games out to not be utterly trampled by PS4's success, after years and years of pocketing Live subscription $$$ as basically full profit).

PSN isn't quite up to par with Live though with stability yet, understandably so when you consider Live has been charging since it's inception with the original Xbox in like '03 I believe when I first tried it for Capcom vs SNK 2:EO. So, Live has had lots of time to slowly upgrade, while pocketing tons of profit. Compared to something like Steam, they both lose out, because Steam is awesome and doesn't charge - but I understand things seem to work a lil differently in the console world.

The way I see it, since it seems there's no turning back at this point - as long as PSN upgrades at a faster rate than Live has over the years(which at this point it basically has to) then I'm accepting of it. Especially considering I usually wait to renew my subscription until there's a discount on the 1yr PS+ for like $35 or so.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA14d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY14d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay14d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos14d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7214d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY14d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator14d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum14d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z14d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad15d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga15d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot13d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose15d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE15d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername14d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy15d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde14d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8614d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8614d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole15d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300015d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot15d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle14d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7714d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments