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Coming off Gamescom, one of the biggest (and most controversial) announcements was Microsoft claiming Square and Crystal Dynamic’s Rise of the Tomb Raider. While the first installment of Lara Croft’s reboot, Tomb Raider, was multiplatform, Rise of the Tomb Raider was labeled as “exclusive to Microsoft”.

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Snookies124207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

Timed exclusives are not exclusives at all. I don't even consider PS3/PS4 games that are on Vita as well exclusive, or vice versa. Same goes with 360/X1 games that are also on PC, or vice versa. Those aren't exclusive either. An exclusive is something that's only on that one singular platform and will not be on another.

scark924207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

Yeah, Timed Exclusives are not system sellers either, for me anyway, but yeah you are defo right!

Mithan4207d ago

Well, Destiny sold me on the PS4 and no doubt it will make the jump to the PC next year.

DarkZane4206d ago

@Mithan

Pretty sure the chances of Destiny coming to PC are incredibly slim, considering Bungie's track record.

MadLad4206d ago

^

Bungie's track record was purely under Microsoft, helping to push Xbox as a console.
They are now part of Activision. Activision does third-party. And they love money.

I'm surprised if they don't announce a PC version in a couple months.

UltraNova4206d ago (Edited 4206d ago )

Like I've said before MS securing TR for a year is only good news to my ears cause I wont have to hurry and finish Uncharted 4 to play this, plus we will probably get a visually upgraded, all dlc including, cheaper version a year later!

Classic case of WIN-WIN for ps4 owners.

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Major_Glitch4207d ago

@Snookies How are you getting disagrees?! Dear MS only people, if it isn't exclusive to one system, then you don't get to call it an exclusive. ie. Titanfall...Fact. Although, if I only owned THAT console, I'd be defensive too.

mcarsehat4207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

Same reason you are getting disagrees, it's a ridiculous theory, the company makes the deal for exclusivity, the console itself doesn't pick up the phone and arrange a business meeting SMH.

A game that is an exclusive is exclusive to the company. If they are on the console and the portable console, they can still be called exclusives.

Fanboys are thick...

Sindustry4207d ago

I can't reply to mcarsehat, for some reason lol. Troll?

Theory is "ridiculous"?

This "timed exclusive" stuff is just like net flix vs dvd, or on-demand vs netflix.

Sure you can get a game sooner if you own a denuded-wannabe-pc before the rest. Big deal. The theory that it's not really exclusive is totally realistic.

Kinda like PC vs Consoles anyone? I guess D3, Half-Life, Team Fortress, and many many more PC titles were "timed" exclusives also lol.

JoGam4207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

Yes an exclusivity depends on the contract. For example, an exclusive could mean that Sony only has a game that would be on PS4, PS3 and Vita however because its exclusive to Sony still makes it an exclusive, MS wouldn't have it. Same goes for Timed exclusive. If MS has it for a period of time however at a later date Sony will get it then yes its timed exclusive. However there are also a single console exclusive too. For example infamous is exclusive to Sony however Infamous Second Son is exclusive to PS4 which is also owned by Sony.

Imalwaysright4206d ago

@ mcarsehat

Not sure if serious... We don't play games on companies, we play them on platforms. PC is not the same as a X1 or a PS4 so it means that games like Ryse, Titanfall or Planetside are multiplatform. The same is true for the Vita, PS3 or PS4. Even if a game was made just for these platforms it would still be a multiplatform game because I can play it on one of them without needing the other 2.

mixolydian_id4206d ago (Edited 4206d ago )

Its probably just because people love to generalise.

Like so...

Ms = xbox
Sony = PS
Nintendo = Wii

PC = ...Ms/Windows? ....
Or should... it be PC = Devs?

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come_bom4207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

Yep, exclusive means that a game can only be played on one platform. It's exclusives that sell consoles, not timed exclusives. It's exclusives that differentiates a specific console from other consoles.

Unless it's the console maker that's paying for the entire development (and something extra for the effort) of the 3rd party game, I find some 3rd party developers pretty stupid to make exclusives deals (or timed exclusive) for just a little extra cash. Timed exclusives essentially means that the game when released on other platforms, will sell a lot less due to the hype and interest on the game being gone. I'm looking at you: Hellblade, Tomb Raider, No Mans Sky, among many others...

EDIT: @JoGam
"Wow dude, what you just typed makes no sense."
Read. It. Slowly.

JoGam4207d ago

Wow dude, what you just typed makes no sense. You honestly dont believe that do you?

mechlord4206d ago

Well, the problem is that people are mixing the business meaning that was attributed to the word with the word itself.

timed exclusive doesn't make sense grammatically.
exclusive is something that is unique and in the sense of gaming something that can only be found in ONE console. One console. not a family, not within a year or any other bullshit. If you want to look at it from the business perspective, then all hell breaks loose and its not my fault.

mixolydian_id4206d ago

I wish people would take a step back, open their mind and accept that they don't know as much as they think they know.

Everything in these articles/within the comments is based solely on what people think they know. It effects every comment above and below.

Mis-information due to generalisation is like Chinese whispers and interpretation.

It's safe to say that everything wrote by a user within this site, is speculative. Very little fact is presented, very little information is politically correct and you are essentially speaking anonymously to everyone.

People can say whatever they like. Correct or not. Wild accusation, sheer patriotic belief... etc

It's because of this that people actually don't care about what others think. Its what you think that counts. It's what this website thrives upon.

Why should anyone care... as long as you have your un-swaying comment spoken.

My offering... not that anyone cares...

Full exclusives ruin the industry... do you need me to elaborate?
They prevent mass enjoyment by localising gameplay to any number of platforms in the attempt to one up another platform.

Exclusives can bugger off

KiwiViper854206d ago

Just say "Launching First on XboxOne/PS4"

Problem Solved

Azzanation4206d ago

Timed Exclusives are still exclusives. Until there's another version of the game available on another system, then that game is an exclusive to what ever system its available on. In TR case, its not available on anything else until its timed plan is finished.

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MasterCornholio4207d ago

Why would they be if its just a timed exclusive?

Philo Spencer said it would come to the PS4 later on. If it was a true exclusive then it would be a different story.

starrman19854207d ago

He didn't say it would come to PS4 after, he just said it was a timed exclusive and once that time expires CD can take it where they want.

I'm honestly not sure it will come to PS4 now, or if it does it will be a year+ down the line (kind of like Bio Shock)

BX814207d ago

If ms was smart they would promote the hell out of this games and if it does well make another deal for exclusivity.

ScorpiusX4207d ago

Don't think he said that , he stated a duration and anything else is up to Square & CD but never did he mentioned that on stage . That I recall and I watched the show.

YodaCracker4206d ago

Why would they bother to secure its exclusivity forever? Games produce the majority of their sales within the first few weeks, especially with a holiday release. Basically, Rise of the Tomb Raider will be exclusive to Xbox until sales have dried up and it is no longer relevant. Then it will come to other platforms after it has paid off all its benefits to Microsoft. Obviously, they wouldn't make the deal in the first place if it wasn't beneficial to them.

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Infamous2984207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

Tomb Raider had history with Playstation as mass effect did with Xbox,I wonder what will be the reaction of the xbox fans if supposedly mass effect went exclusive to the Playstation platform.

Even though I stopped caring about this whole tomb raider timed exclusive fiasco, i still think that was a bullshit move made by both square einx and microsoft and people had all the rights to complain.

@Major_Glitch Halo is a bad examle becuae its a first party game.

Major_Glitch4207d ago

Can you imagine if the next Halo was a PS 4 exclusive? The bots would lose their minds. Let them have their timed-exclusives. They need it.

Larry L4207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

People have the right to be upset about it. Personally as a PS gamer andnot an Xbox gamer, I think this is good for eveyone involved.

It's good for MS since this whole business has at least given them an exclusive people are actually talkng about. Whether that talk is positive or negative, any publicity is good publicity in most cases.

It's good for Square becuse any kind of deal with MS put a nice injection of money (i would guess to the tune of 5-10 million) in their bank account.

And it's good for Sony and PS gamers for multiple reasons. It's again, good PR for Sony with the bleeding heart, hate big business decision types. And great for PS gamers because we don't have 2 very similar type games competing for our wallets and time in the same season, we can just focus on Uncharted. And when TR inevitably relases on PS4 it will be thoroughly bug tested by Xbox gamers, it will have graphical advancements, and will hav a bunch of new content. Ala Ninja Gaiden/Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

Everyone wins.

Docknoss4207d ago

Mass Effect is an EA game, MS and EA are really close. No way shape or form would ME ever become exclusive to either system.

mixolydian_id4206d ago

It's timed exclusivity... not even worth losing hair about.

Everyone should be thankful that the game is shared between the platforms... even at the cost of a bit of time.

Full exclusivity is gash... share the wealth... not for the money... but for the gamers.

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LeCreuset4207d ago

Are you, and some of your cohorts here, still salty over the backlash this deal has received? Those of you in the "move on" camp are free to do just that. Is someone making you click on these articles? Or are you just playing reputation manager and salty MS wasted money on a PR blunder that has resulted in overwhelmingly negative publicity?

Xb1ps44206d ago

Who are you? Ms accountant to claim they wasted money?

You call it a pr blunder and I call it a game..

LeCreuset4206d ago

Xb1ps4

And who are you? One of their unpaid spokesman, getting upset about something so minor and replying 21 hours after the fact? Don't be so invested in the MS defense.

As for me, I'm the guy who, like everyone else paying attention, saw MS spend money to create the illusion of an exclusive, only to turn around and admit timed exclusivity following the negative public backlash.

That "game" is a game MS would have had anyway. Everything surrounding the deal and the money that was spent to (temporarily) keep it off of other systems is the PR blunder.

They didn't buy you a game. They paid to keep it off of other systems. You already know that, but you're going to carry on drinking the green kool aid and being readily available whenever MS needs an unpaid defender.

Xb1ps44205d ago

Who am I? I'm the guy that wasn't pouting and crying since I have both consoles so it really didn't matter either way so I couldn't care less and sure as he'll wasn't mad..

You sony fanatics and your bs.. No they didn't buy me a game but they helped a franchise that was clearly I'm trouble financially... Phillis interview about is a good read but I'm sure it's all lies... All of it all because you are a one console owner..

I'm not a defender I just call out the dumb shit and you are clearly on some dumb shit...

LeCreuset4205d ago (Edited 4205d ago )

Xb1ps4

"... I have both consoles... All of it all because you are a one console owner.."

Just goes to show how narrow your vision is. Not only are there more than two consoles, but there are three main consoles, alone: Wii U, PS4, and Xbox. I own a PS4, Wii U, PS3, Wii, Vita, 3DS, and a PSP, as well as a Retron 3 which plays Genesis, SNES and NES games. I used to own a Game Cube, which was stolen and a Sega Saturn. Sounds to me like you're another MS loyalist forced to acknowledge you want a PS4, catching hurt feelings because people like me don't feel the need for an XB1.

"I'm not a defender I just call out the dumb ____ and you are clearly on some dumb ____..."

You're so defensive you can barely get a coherent sentence out, while ranting in your profanity laced reply. You are clearly too invested in protecting MS from criticism.

Xb1ps44205d ago

Yea bro because you going on to say I'm an unpaid ms employee is really coherent...

Lmfao I'm narrow minded? You're all butt hurt because a 3rd party game is coming exclusively to a console you don't own and you can't even come into terms on why it was done! All you care about is the ps4 and not the game, that's being narrow minded..

Rottr was never coming to the wiiu so it was irrelevant.

Last gen I had all consoles including the one not in your list, you know the 360...

I'm deeply invested?! I'm not the one going on a rampage filling out petitions over a 3rd party game lol I would call that being deeply invested but of course anyone that says anything positive about the Xbox they must be a ms employee to you since from your list you never owned a xbox.

Ps4
Wanted_ in_bpt
Xb1
Wanted again

You and your die hard sony fans really need to calm down, again if you owned both you wouldn't be looking like a bag of salt..

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Software_Lover4207d ago

.... Give it a rest. Everyone knows what the deal is now. Lets move on.

N311V4206d ago

I'm not so sure. It's not been specifically stated that ROTTR will be released on PS platforms. Phil Spencer only spoke of the franchise as a whole not this particular game. Technically speaking Dead Rising 3 and Ryse were timed exclusive to Xbox before being released on PC, the exclusion of PS platforms for those games remains indefinitely. This could be the case with ROTTR but it won't be clarified as they now know it'd be a PR disaster.

Tedakin4207d ago

This is soooo 2 weeks ago.

sikandar2014207d ago

Oh Come On! I'm tired of this Tomb Raider Time- Exclusivity shit...

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jznrpg1037d ago (Edited 1037d ago )

Zero Dawn sold really well so I’m not sure this belongs. The second game released next to a big game again and it hurt it some I forget what it was though, oh yeah Elden Ring .
But a good game is a good game to me I don’t care when they release personally but they do have to think about it when you want to get more people to buy it.

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isarai1150d ago (Edited 1150d ago )

Deserves less IMO, i think the 1st in the new trilogy was a perfect 1st step for the new direction. The next 2 games were half steps at best. Not only that, every character in the series including Lara is just annoying and doesn't make sense in terms of motive, like yes they have a motive, but none of it seems proportional to the lengths they are willing to go through for it. The most annoying thing is every one of the games say "become the Tomb Raider" yet 3 games later and we're still not there? No thanks. Then there's the mess of the 3rd game, massive skill tree that serves almost no purpose as there's literally only like 3-4 short encounters in the whole game, and they took till the 3rd game to finally manage some decent puzzles even remotely close to previous games in the series. Nah, the trilogy infuriated me to no end as a long time fan of the series, i hope we get better going forward cause that crap sucked.

Army_of_Darkness1148d ago

The first in the trilogy was my favorite. I thought they were going into the right direction with that one until the second one came out and seemed like a graphical downgrade but the gameplay was okay. As for the Third, Graphics were really nice but it was kinda boring me to death with its non-stop platforming and exploring with not enough action! Well, for me anyway...

DeathTouch1148d ago

Graphics on the 3rd one were abysmal. It’s more colorful and has more variety, but everything else was a noticeable downgrade.

The more open world with NPC quests was also handled very poorly, to the point I missed Angel of Darkness.

thesoftware7301148d ago

I know it is your opinion, but she did progress as a character in each game, she even got more muscular and seasoned.

That is the thing, people first complained that there was not enough platforming and actual tomb raiding in the first and second games. Shadow remedied that and kept the combat elements.

3-4 encounters? huh? did we play the same game? there was plenty of combat and, the skill tree did matter, like being able to hang enemies from trees, set explosives traps on bodies, being able to counter, and that are just a few of the combat skills. The skill tree also had things like being able to hold your breath underwater longer, crafting upgrades, zipline upgrade, and climbing upgrades that all changed how you can approach situations.

Not knocking your opinion, but we definitely had different experiences. I had 98% completion on the shadow.

SoulWarrior1148d ago (Edited 1148d ago )

Sorry but i'm with him about the low number of encounters, the game throws loads of weapons and skills you're way with a comparatively low amount of places to actually use them, so they felt under utilised.

-Foxtrot1150d ago

Yeah...no

It was awful, for THREE GAMES it was "become the Tomb Raider" where she went back to square one after each game. Not to mention after a huge reaction of killing someone for the first time she then becomes Rambo straight after and goes on a slaughter spree without a single other reaction. Her development was all over the place.

She was whiney, weak and in later game a little arrogant and selfish

Oh and the voice actress compared to the previous ones was not as good

Lara Croft deserved better and while they are decent games as they are, we deserved actual Tomb Raider games, we could have had better survival games if they just stuck with the original Lara Crofts origin about her plane going down. Surviving 2 weeks in the Himalayas...I'd have liked to seen that, who knows what mystical threat she could have faced in the mountains or underground some secret concealed cave.

Tacoboto1148d ago

I thought Shadow of the Tomb Raider had better gameplay than Rise, but it annoyed me the most of the trilogy when I stopped to think about the story.

It's like they deliberately decided to make her unlikeable and did nothing to make the character you're playing as likeable or have even one sign of humility.

SoulWarrior1150d ago

2013 I thought was a fine entry, but Rise and especially Shadow were painfully mediocre follow ups imo, I really didn't like how selfish and angry her character was in those two.

Terry_B1149d ago

No. Please forget the crap completely.

northpaws1149d ago

First one was decent, played through it twice.
Second one was okay, played through it once.
Third one was really bad, tried twice a year apart, still can't get through the first two hours, it is just really bad.

thesoftware7301148d ago

Honest question, what did you find bad about it? the opening 2 hrs of Shadow were fantastic imo.

The opening was very similar to the first 2, what did you find really bad?

Not looking for an argument, just an honest question.

Starman691148d ago

3rd one just didn't feel like a tomb raider game. Possibly because the development was passed to another development team. Big mistake! Microsoft killed tomb raider making the first game a timed exclusive. Never recovered after that.

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CrimsonWing691529d ago (Edited 1529d ago )

They're all solid games, but nothing quite matched the epicness of the first one for me. I think the 3rd one started off strong but once you got to that Peruvian area it took a massive nose dive for me.

lelo2play1529d ago (Edited 1529d ago )

You got to be kidding!
The first one was great at the time... but this latest trilogy of Tomb Raider games are also great.

LiViNgLeGaCY1529d ago

I think he means the first one in the new trilogy.

CrimsonWing691529d ago

I meant the first of the new trilogy.

Furesis1529d ago

yeah i remember liking the first one when it came out, so i tried the second one sometime after release and i just could not get into it, i couldn't finish it. So i might try the 3rd now that i got it for free but ehh. But i do remember enjoying the first one, i wonder if i'd feel the same way if i played it today? Better not taint those memories lol

ANIALATOR1361529d ago

I was the same for some reason. Never finished the second one. I got like half way through maybe.

ActualWhiteMan1528d ago (Edited 1528d ago )

The first one of the latest trilogy is a masterpiece

Fishy Fingers1529d ago

I'll take a copy of Shadow... Cheers.

Profchaos1529d ago

Great games I've played them all on ps4 but it'll be good to finally try shadow on my rtx card.

Double_O_Revan1529d ago

Trying to claim them and the store keeps crashing. lol.

gamefreaks3651529d ago

EGS has been having issues all day.

RedDevils1529d ago

Weird I don't has that issue.

Double_O_Revan1529d ago

I finally got it after a while. But it was real bad for a while.

PeeShuter1529d ago (Edited 1529d ago )

Claim games by going to the website and login using ur credentials. I did the same as i couldnt use epic launcher. Also try reinstalling Epic Launcher I did it and it worked.

Double_O_Revan1529d ago

I always go through the website. It was all just down for a while yesterday it seems.

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