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The Problem With Mario Maker

CCC Says: "If you watched the Mario Maker demo footage from Gamescom and E3 you might have noticed something. The stages that were being made were horrible! Note that these were being made by the same people who made Mario Maker, and most of them were just machines to get a bunch of 1-ups, horrendous gauntlets of bouncing enemies with no rhyme or reason. You can expect that many of the Mario Maker stages that we will see in the final version of the game to be more of the same."

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DanielGearSolid4205d ago

This is the case with any Community level designer.

iamnsuperman4205d ago

"But Mario Maker levels are short. They are only a few screens long. Not only that, but the tool-set is limited. Heck, right now you can’t even place fire-flowers. Can you make interesting Mario levels with it, yes, but it’s not easy. Instead, people fall prey tp the same impulse most people do when confronted with a new editing program: put more stuff on the field!"

I heard this fear from someone on the IGN UK podcast. If they are going to make this work then need to implement a feature where you can build your own game. Link levels together and make the levels longer with more tools available

Metallox4205d ago

They would be pretty dumb by not adding a classic power up like the Fire Flower and hence more content. I mean, I'm pretty sure they will, but they probably just wanted to reserve the content for another day.

Or otherwise I wouldn't understand why they decided to show this at E3.

Dannycr4205d ago (Edited 4205d ago )

You wanna know why they probably won't do that?

Because with Mario Maker being such a perfect level creation tool, there actually wouldn't be a reason for a new New Super Mario Bros entry. You will be able to play new levels made by players that could probably be way better, intricate, smart and cool on a daily basis than what you may get in a new Mario installment.

It's basically the same reason why I didn't buy Little Big Planet 2. The extras wasn't enough justification for me to buy the second one when they could have just released an expansion to the first 1.

With little big planet 3, the difference will be the obvious usage of the power difference between PS3 and PS4, and that does warrant a buy, but in the case of Mario Maker, I would rather keep playing cool levels there for free than paying $60 for a new power up.

PSD: This is just for New Super Mario Bros franchise, obviously Super Mario 3D franchise is a whole 'nother case.

eferreira4204d ago

With short levels to create and no option to share online, this could be a disaster. I really hope Nintendo makes good on this.

wonderfulmonkeyman4205d ago

They DID mention that the game wasn't done being built yet, at E3, so complaining that there's not enough tools yet when the final product hasn't even been seen, is kind of pointless.

This sounds like whining for the sake of it, or just because it's Mario.

Dannycr4205d ago

It's not. This is valid and important because it's not whinning, it is actually positive feedback that the devs can take into consideration while they are building the game.

Thinking that we are not suppose to provide feedback because the game is not finished doesn't help at all.

wonderfulmonkeyman4205d ago

Feedback on a product that isn't fully fleshed out is the same as wasting time, whenever someone suggests something the developers already have planned to put into the game.

It's better to wait until the full product is shown in this case.
Extra stuff could be added in via patches afterwards, based on community preferences.

Dannycr4205d ago

Providing feedback is NEVER a waste of time. Even if they already had it planned.

If they had it planned, then they would mention it and if it wasn't mentioned, then, it is up to the journalist to ask the questions of where it is, why wasn't it done or why don't you do it?

"Extra stuff can be added later" So you want devs to ship incomplete games because they can be patched later?

Kevlar0094205d ago

Ideally Nintendo will sort levels according to highest rated, most downloaded, rated difficulty.

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A Fond Farewell To The Wii-U - GameRaven

The Wii U had a pretty rough time. At its lowest moments, people mocked it, laughing at the lack of games and third party support. Even when the system was in a good run of form, people still looked down on it. Like the toaster, from the film The Brave Little Toaster (yeah, i’m going … Continue reading A Fond Farewell To The Wii-U

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60FpsMyth3329d ago

Zombi U was one of my faves

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Moonman3329d ago

This came to mind:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Thank you for being a friend. ;p

Einhander19713328d ago

Just been playing donkey kong tropical freeze amazing game another Nintendo classic.
Wii u such a waste, Would of been nice to see it succeed let's hope switch is successful and
brings us even more Nintendo goodness:)

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Wii U Games You Need in Your Library

Don’t let the release date of the NX make you trigger shy, because the Wii U has quite the line up in its five year life cycle, and here are just a few.

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franwex3337d ago (Edited 3337d ago )

Two of those are remakes so I didn't buy...replace the Zelda remakes with Tokyo Mirage Sessions for the unique experience, or Pikmin 3

CocoaBrother3337d ago

Wind Waker on the Wii U is still a fun game to play and the use of the gamepad for inventory was convenient; however, I do agree with the other two games you listed. If I had to add, Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze is a lot of fun.
Smash Bros. is a game my friends and I will always play. It's such a fun multiplayer game

iplay1up23337d ago

Tokyo Is okay so far, but I need to spend more time with it! Been moving, so have not spent much time gaming the past month. :(

deafdani3336d ago (Edited 3336d ago )

I'd add New Super Mario Bros U (easily the best in the "New" Super Mario Bros series), Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Super Mario 3D World and The Wonderful 101 to this list.

Edit: holy hell, how could I forget Mario Kart 8... I've already put around 150 hours on that title alone.

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superchiller3336d ago

Not even worth it at that price, with such a tiny library of games available (and very few notable ones).

EddieNX 3336d ago

Theres actually a ton of really excellent games buddy Ive got the stack in front of me. You've missed out on loads of amazing games, that's the reality of whats happening here lol.

showtimefolks3336d ago

Metr

Huge library compared to ps4/Xbox one? Or ps3/Xbox 360 because either way it's not comparable

Some of the best games on wiiu are remaster

MetroidFREAK213336d ago

I'll be sure to grab one once they become scarce and are that low

pleasuretokill3336d ago

DKC Tropical Freeze
Super Mario 3D World
Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker
Mario Kart 8

The Wii U has some seriously awesome games!

Scatpants3336d ago

I hope they port Xenoblade to Switch.

deafdani3336d ago

There are rumors about Xenoblade X getting a Switch port.

I'm not interested on that one, seeing how I've already played it plenty on my Wii U, and finished it (but I'm nowhere near completing it, not even close).

I would love an HD remaster of the original Xenoblade Chronicles, though. What a masterpiece.

rjason123336d ago

Yeah I'm not too keen on the Wii U ports myself, especially considering they haven't been out too long (and still look nice) Wii games would be better (if they updated them)

Scatpants3332d ago

I skipped the WiiU so I'll probably be down to get a few ports of it's best games.

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Super Mario Maker For 3DS Announced & Release Date | Nintendo Direct 9.1.2016

In Super Mario Maker For 3DS Announced & Release Date | Nintendo Direct 9.1.2016 Splurge Tells you about the nintendo 3DS Livestream called Nintendo Direct...

pcz3459d ago (Edited 3459d ago )

When are Nintendo going to actually show what the NX is and give details? Its getting very late in the year now.

Its getting to the point where the silence isn't one of mystery and suspense, but one of concern