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Grown Folks Talk4297d ago

Bridge scene looks like the scrapped Rainbow Six Patriots trailer.

guitarded774297d ago (Edited 4297d ago )

Screw MS... Tomb Raider exclusive? Screw MS. Develop your own exclusives... stop buying out well known 3rd party. Jerks. Yeah, I said it.

Sorry, I'm pissed. MS gamers should be just as pissed. MS is spending major money for devs to not make games for other consoles when they could be spending that money on developing REAL exclusives.

MysticStrummer4297d ago

The CoD bundle and the TR announcement were the two big items imo. Neither one will propel XB1 over PS4 but they will help.

I still say TR will come to PS4 eventually, but we'll see. Doesn't matter either way to me.

Drasill4297d ago

What about all the exclusives Sony has bought from third parties over the years (Final Fantasy VII-XII, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls, Infamous before they bought Sucker Punch. You need a history lesson if you don't realize that Sony is the king of buying third party exclusives.

BiggerBoss4297d ago

@drasill, heavy rain, beyond, and infamous were NOT third party. They were second party and published by Sony. Obviously games published by Sony wouldn't be on Xbox...

SniperControl4297d ago

Dammit, i really want to get a X1, but nothing i have seen is pushing me enough to buy one.

Disappointed with Quantum Break, i thought people were saying this was a genre defining game, all i saw was another cover shooter.

guitarded774297d ago (Edited 4297d ago )

@ Drasill

When anyone does it, I'm against it. But Sony did NOT buy Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy left Nintendo platforms for Sony platforms because Nintendo were sticking with carts, and Sony was offering the capacity of CD's. There is a difference from devs following tech, and devs taking a paycheck to not make a game for a platform.

Like BiggerBoss said, Quantum Dream was developing for Sony... they were never "coming" to other platforms. I can't think of one instance where Sony has done this. I could be wrong, but I don't think there is one.

ABizzel14297d ago (Edited 4297d ago )

@Guitarded77

I must say I completely agree with you, and this is getting ridiculous. I'll have my XBO this weekend, as I've been saying, but this deal makes absolutely no sense, and what makes it even more insulting is when these weak @$$ developers continue to try and spin things like, oh we see the most potential working with MS as a partner for support, knowing it's about the money.

No multiplatform developer is going to make their game exclusive, unless there is enough financial backing to make it worthwhile. Even worse, no multiplatform developer is going to take a game that sold best on PS3, and then have the PS4 version sell almost 3x more than the XBO version, and that they allowed to run with much better performance to be exclusive on the lower sell and weaker console, especially when that game was established on a specific console to begin with.

This is BS to every PlayStation and PC gamer, and honestly this is just completely trashy from both sides of it. MS is running a business and it's common practice to want to beat your opponent, but make your own exclusives. Stop buying 3rd parties, "multiplatform IPs" to fluff your game library. If you spent time investing in yourself instead of others you wouldn't have to worry about your gaming library being segregated.

As you said it's wrong for anyone to do it. The DLC crap is simply annoying but doesn't change the fact that both parties still get the game. The timed exclusive crap and this are complete BS, and it harkens back to that Nintendo article complaining about 3rd parties having complete control over Xbox and PS. Obviously we see exactly which console manufacturer is allowing this to happen.

NewMonday4297d ago (Edited 4297d ago )

@ABizzel1
after Dead Rising and Ryse I don't know why MS bother, everybody knows by this point any 3rd party "exclusive" on the X1 is timed

can wait for Tomb Raider to come to PS4/PS3, the previous game was fun but nothing to make me rush to grab the next one day1.

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that Sunset Overdrive cut-scene is so utterly stupid and cringe inducing, did an 8 year old write that?

FITgamer4297d ago

@Drasill he is upset because it's a 3rd party exclusive from a franchise that was previous multi-platform. I don't mind 3rd party exclusives, but that is shady no matter which company is doing it.

Codewow4297d ago

@OP Why don't you rage at the devs for taking the 'dirty money'.

guitarded774297d ago

@ Codewow

Because I doubt it was the dev... most likely the pub (Square-Enix). And I blame whoever took the payoff just as much for the "problem". I say "problem" because this helps no gamers... only hurts some.

VforVideogames4297d ago

Uncharted has real competition.

TheSaint4297d ago

'Games, games, games' became 'bundles, bundles, bundles'.

darthv724297d ago

guitar...just get an x1 and you wont feel left out of any game that is announced as exclusive ever again.

Its a game system, not a picket line. Even the most diehard of holdouts will give in at some point.

dmeador4297d ago

Then buy an X1 if you want to play it. Thats the point. Some consoles have games that the other doesn't. They are paying them to focus on their console.

Starks4297d ago

It's cool. Microsoft didn't had much in their exclusives anyway, so they'll just buy out a 3rd party one.

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SilentNegotiator4297d ago (Edited 4297d ago )

Paying for a game that was coming to Xbox anyway for 1 year of exclusivity...

-_-

mikeslemonade4297d ago

I disagree with all of you. Companies should buy more exclusives to differentiate from the rest of the competition. Exclusives are better for gamers. Back in the day these exclusives like Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, DMC, RE etc. would get in the high 8s or low 9s for meta score.

Now these multiplats are getting from high 7s to mid 8s, so exclusives are better for gamers because the developer can focus just making one version.

Clown_Syndr0me4297d ago

I see your point but at the end of the day, I dont care. I have PS4 and X1 so I wont miss a single great game this generation. Couldnt care less what console I play it on, whos outselling who, yadda yadda yadda.

ALLWRONG4297d ago

Why would MS gamers be pissed about Tomb Raider exclusive?

Sitdown4297d ago

Either through first party or purchased third party exclusive I get games...why should I be upset again?

S2Killinit4297d ago

@guitarded77
have to agree with you. but I've said this before, MS's plan is not to aim for gamers, we are just the stepping stone for them to reach the casuals. they sort of made a mess this generation when they announced their actual plans a bit too openly for the gamer's liking and it got them in trouble. truth is, MS only buys exclusives because they dont plan to cater to core gamers for any whole generation. therefore, it makes more sense for them to buy exclusivity at the beginning of each generation when the instal bases are small, then they switch to casuals anyway.

Pogmathoin4297d ago

I understand you biggerboss, you mean like No Mans Sky... 3rd party exclusive?

sAVAge_bEaST4297d ago (Edited 4297d ago )

tHatS, WHY.. we the Game.rs. say

Rally against M$ ,

our beloved pass time has (tried to be) hijacked, by money grubbing hoes, before bros.

-truth

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mochachino4297d ago

Again, instead of funding its own exclusives, MS is paying money for a game that xone gamers would have been able to play regardless. So instead of having 2 games, Tomb Raider and an some real exclusive, all there is Tomb Raider...which they would have had before.

Third party exclusives result in no additional content. It's just using game making budgets to prevent other gamers from accessing something that they would have had.

It's a lose lose for all parties. Nobody should be supporting these practices.

Stuff like this is why I ditched my 360 for PS4. Nothing personal MS, but I hope it fails just for the sake of the industry. I was planning on getting an xone at some point but MS is still the same little sh'.. I can't support these practices.

Xb1ps44297d ago (Edited 4297d ago )

Even if ms had spent that money on a new ip whos to say it would be good anyway? Or sell enough to make that money back..

Some of you are just too self entitled, get both and all that anger will go away..

I mean what gamer really does that? "What! Another 3rd party ex lusive! Im done with this console" just weird....

mochachino4297d ago

@xb1ps4

By your logic why make new games at all because there's a chance they may not be good or successful. We should stop creating new IP's all together right?

Unless MS paid a 3rd party to create a game like Ryse or saved a dead or dying project, every gamer should be against 3rd party exclusives. They create no new content.

Would you rather have two new games with the competition being able to play one, or just one new game. Are people that much of a fanboy that they rather sacrifice they're own gaming options to spite the competition.

MS has some very talented studio's, they're fully capable of putting out something that I'm sure many gamers would love, but to just give up because their a chance of failure is ridiculous.

Sony put out a lot of exclusives last and many were mediocre, but from that they also produced some true masterpieces which are regarded as some the best games of all time. As a gamer, I prefer those business practices imo.

Manic20144297d ago

To be fair we don't know the full story in why it has gone exclusive, it may be MS funded the game, or Square did not want to compete with uncharted next holiday so they made MS an offer. All in all MS end game is to provide Xbox gamers with killer exclusives, which hopefully after this is mostly first party. Same goes for Sony with No Mans Sky.

NZLAnonymous4296d ago (Edited 4296d ago )

Microsoft pays to have 3rd party games exclusives on their console so people who are on PlayStation to buy the Xbox One to play a franchise that they already like

Its a smart strategy , quit bitching

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scark924297d ago

I found the Rainbow Six Patriots gameplay to be more exciting to be honest.

Grown Folks Talk4297d ago

And why must there always be a Mitchell?

nevin14297d ago

This is Europe's version of E3?

Volkama4297d ago

Closest thing, but it's a public event.

Gr1mmyshadows4297d ago

damn I gotta admit that COD xbox bundle looks badass and 1TB HDD. might have to trade my XB1 just for that new Xbox

Grown Folks Talk4297d ago

I'm considering trading one of mine towards the white console, or if there's a similar Quantum Break bundle.

sprinterboy4297d ago

35 mins in and only seen multiplats

falviousuk4297d ago

35 minutes in and only seen games

Volkama4297d ago

35mins in and I don't know what I've seen some things but not got any volume. Did it just say the next Tomb Raider game is exclusive? :|

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio18d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing18d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9218d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit18d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing18d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9218d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay20d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn221d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn220d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown21d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay20d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay20d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac20d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger21d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300021d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde21d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde20d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7522d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_20d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.