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The Backwards Compatibility Scam

JBH ponders what serial remastering as a result of the lack of backwards compatibility might do to the games industry.

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DarkOcelet4295d ago (Edited 4295d ago )

I dont blv its easy as you might think , i mean for instance the ps3 cell infrastructure is very different of that of the ps4 , about the xbox they could have put it because they are not very different , maybe am wrong . And the last of us was 50$ only with all the dlc so i think the price is worth it. Sleeping dogs is actually better than watch dogs man ... it had a great story and good gameplay , its just wasnt big enough , but it a good game .

Software_Lover4295d ago

Xbox 360 was powerPC. XBone is X86. Not to mention the speed of the CPU in the Xbox 360 was in the 3ghz range compared to the XBone.

XBLSkull4295d ago

The feature is nice, but why buy a new system to play old games? You likely already own the old system, so its just a small convenience to have BC. It would be nice to have during the beginning of the generation here but more and more games are releasing so there are plenty of games to choose from now. I'm not going to complain about no BC, it isn't a necessary feature. Media functionality is however, bring it back M$/-$ony

C-H-E-F4295d ago

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They aren't porting the ps3 versions to ps4 (multiplats) they are porting the PC version to the ps4... but With playstation now is it really a Scam?? If you want to play old games keep your old system... I just don't understand these new age brats.. like damn my SNES didn't play NES games... I kept both and enjoyed both until the Playstation dropped in 94'... mofos find the smallest things to cry about... ohhh I want a seemless experience... oh really?? well I have 5 HD ports on my TV.. I have my PS3 and my ps4 hooked up along with my comcast cable... If I want to play the PS3 I turn it on.. wow... that was sooo difficult

but on topic lol
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Yeah I agree SD was better than WD... actually I think SD had some of the best hand to hand combat in a gta style game last gen.... Also, I don't mind shelling out money for PS4 ports for titles that's worth it... SD and TLOU are games I valued in my favorites of last gen so I did/will pick it up... As for Tomb Raider I didn't pick it up last gen and didn't this gen... Got it on ps plus this year.. but I still have yet to play it... I have no idea why... but it's not in my valued list... so with that being said... we have a choice to buy a game or skip it... and that's what many of these idiots don't understand... because a game comes out remastered or new ip doesn't mean you have to buy it if you don't want it... lOl

clouds54295d ago

I agree but backwards compatibility is a great way to bring in new costumers and make the transition easier.

There is not a lot to play on ps4 atm. But there are plentyof ps3 games around. If the ps4 was bbackwards compatible I would have bought it. Now I just bought a used ps3 for cheap.

C-H-E-F4295d ago (Edited 4295d ago )

Understood but that's what PS now will be for... For those who missed out you can now use that service to play games you didnt get a chance to. If you equate PS now rent service to blockbuster you'd see value for the 90 day rental services (25$ and lower). Hopefully all games will be no more than 25$ for 90 days in the future.

but if you compare to lets say gamefly then you won't I suppose? But there's supposed to be a sub. Model so maybe that would be more on track with gamefly prices?

Volkama4295d ago

Decent sega Saturn emulators require a pretty beefy PC to run well, and even then they're not perfect.

The different archatecture is not a trivial obstacle.

ZombieKiller4295d ago

Well for one, people keep complaining there are no games. Backwards compatibility would help with that.

It can be done. If not included in the console, then on an emulation app. I would even be ok with them selling this app for $100 or so.
The PS Now, the remastering, and the idea that it can't be done is ALL another way for these big companies to make more money off of us. I don't mind buying a remastered version of a game, but this lack of BC, and the excuses feel to me, like both companies just want our money and that's the REAL reason it hasn't been available.
They keep restricting me like this, and I'm going to get a PC. I'm tired of playing by everyone else's rules. Shit, I bought a PS4 and it's like a privilege to get it to play music while gaming. PC has this how many years ago?

wheresmymonkey4295d ago

Would it? The WiiU has 100% BC with the wii including downloadable titles and people still complained there was nothing to play on it.

kneon4295d ago

Take off the the tin foil hat, they aren't out to get you. Emulating dissimilar hardware typically takes about an order of magnitude more compute power than the device being emulated and is a non-trivial task.

The problem is made more difficult by the shift in the way we design processors. In the past we mainly just made CPUs faster by shrinking the cpu and increasing the clock. Now we go with more, but slower cores so as to get the performance increase with out the usual increase in heat and power requirements.

Sy_Wolf4295d ago

It's not as simple as just making an emulator. There is a myriad of technical reasons why backwards compatibility isn't in the systems.

CaspuR4295d ago

It is a scam. the god of war collections is the one that set this train going,. every since then every 3 months theres been a "remastered" version or "HD" collection of some game. its crazy. Why do you think theres no ps1,2,or 3 classics in the ps4 psn store huh? they plan on selling you the same game again and call it remastered to justify a 50 or 60 dollar price tag. Dont believe the hype.

CernaML4294d ago

"Why do you think theres no ps1,2,or 3 classics in the ps4 psn store huh?"

Umm... because the PS4 doesnt have the hardware to emulate them?

I do agree that there should at least be PS1 emulation since every playstation platform in existence can play PS1 games. It could just come later like it did for the PS Vita. If not then something is wrong.

mydyingparadiselost4295d ago (Edited 4295d ago )

In honestly looking forward to some of these remasters, many of them are games I didn't play last gen and getting to play them with better resolutions and frame rates is nice. At the same time I agree with the article in the sense that not having BC leads to cash grab releases trying to bank on people rebuying their fav games.
I think my biggest problem with the lack of BC comes from Sony and all the digital PS1 & 2 not being backwards compatible. I'm getting really tired of buying stuff I own over and over again that's 15-20 years old just so it comes with me to the next console. The architecture excuse works for PS3 but not the digital content for the older systems and I feel like Now is just going to be a cash grab for my nostalgia that I still own and should be able to play.

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Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition Receives New Rating

Rating for Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition has seemingly been updated in Australia, leading to many speculations among the community.

isarai1465d ago

Still says it's under SquareEnix 😒 was hoping it would've been u der someone else after their sale of studios and IPs

porkChop1464d ago

The sale hasn't gone through yet though. Nothing will change hands until then. Square Enix said they only kept certain franchises like Outriders. It's reasonable to assume anything they didn't name was sold.

smashman981464d ago

Sleeping dogs is a dead ip that square bought separate from eidos. It’s probably fair to assume they didn’t sell it.

Knightofelemia1464d ago (Edited 1464d ago )

Sale still has to go through and be approved it doesn't just happen over night like buying a used car. Also depends what franchises Square included in the sale along with the studios as well if Sleeping Dogs is still owned by SquareEnix then they will label it as such. Also if they have prior commitments then they also have to honor that as well. Then after that commitment is fulfilled after a while then that said franchise the new owner can do anything they want with it. Like Microsoft had to honor the exclusive games Bethesda made for the PS5 or else they would be forced to pay out those contracts. After those contracts are full filled a game like Deathloop will most likely appear on Xbox. Microsoft after that can do what ever they want with the game.

SinisterMister1464d ago

Cut Isarai some slack. A Sleeping Dogs sequel can be handled by a better publisher than Square in these recent times. Let's just hope it doesn't stay that way.

ABizzel11464d ago

An underrated game, definitely worth a sequel.

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SinisterMister1464d ago (Edited 1464d ago )

Certainly agree with that.

rpvenom1464d ago

I've been saying this for years. We need a sequel.. I would even love it if they did a remake from the people who made Sifu. Or if the two studios joined forces to make a sequel.. that'd be epic!

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Profchaos1464d ago (Edited 1464d ago )

The Australian classification office will occasionally go back and look at old prices of media if they receive a complaint. So it could have been as simple as a parent complained about the rating as R18 was not an available video game rating when the game originally launched.

I'm not going to get my hopes up I've seen enough leaked internal memos as to why true crime and later sleeping dogs was considered a fail also square won't greenlight a game unless it will sell call of duty numbers

SinisterMister1464d ago

Interesting point, but what are your sources regarding seeing Sleeping Dogs as a "fail?" I thought the game did great.

Profchaos1464d ago

Here it sold 1.75 million which was below what square wanted. However we all know square is never happy and fails to understand the difference between neiche games and cultural phenomenon titles.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

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True Crime: New York City Is a Hidden Gem Lost to Time

One of the many video games that have faded into obscurity is True Crime: New York City, a title with a lot of heart but not enough support.

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eXclurel1591d ago

My friend and I loved this game. The first one is always is my favorite though.

P_Bomb1591d ago

Had it, beat it, regret trading it in.

Abnor_Mal1591d ago

I had this game, was fun for the time. Trying to chase down Puffy and JLo in the limo fleeing the club shooting. I'm not really sure if you caught them or it was just a call on the police radio.

Gamer791591d ago

It was good, but wouldn't call it amazing.

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MetroidFREAK211591d ago

I've loved this game since I got it Christmas 2005. Despite the glitches, I enjoyed it a lot

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Amazon Xbox One Digital Game Sale: Save Up To 85% Off

Daily Video Game writes: "The online retailer Amazon is running several digital titles on sale with big discounts for Xbox One gamers, and they’re offering discounts of up to 85% off of them right now for a limited time."

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