I do not understand the disagrees. It was a sincere question. What I said wrong? Please enlighten me. Thanks in advance!

It's as good as it ever will be. Consoles don't get much in the way of improvements (a few OS updates).

Maybe they could put in a better wireless card and optical drive but nothing that fundamentally updates the graphics

All consoles use close to the metal APIs. The reason they can do that easily is because of the completely static nature of the hardware. Higher level APIs were designed because on a PC there are basically infinite amounts of hardware configurations. Just because the API is already basically at the metal doesn't mean that it can't be drastically improved. Improving the API has nothing to do with moving it "closer to the metal" on consoles. Console APIs used to not get tweaked much but that changed last generation when online was pushed so hard. The APIs in the 360 and PS3 are almost indistinguishable from what they were 8 years ago.

"The fact that so many Sony fans are high fiving each other actually makes me believe they now acknowledge DX12 will make the Xbox One better."

Very few ever said it wouldn't, though you may want to pretend otherwise. The point of contention was from XB fans claiming it would improve the console by leaps and bounds, when even MS says it won't.

I can't speak for others, but I never claimed DX12 wouldn't make the X1 better, or that it wouldn't help in making 1080p more achievable on the X1. I just didn't believe that it would make the system super powerful the way some X1 fan boys were claiming.

Anyhow, OT.

DX12 will make it easier to achieve 1080p. That pretty much goes without saying, as the code is simpler and more efficient than the current bloated DX11.x.

However, 1080p in the X1 is still going to be limited by the hardware in the X1, and no magical API is really going to change that for a console which already uses similar methods of optimization to achieve higher graphics with weaker hardware.

That was my main argument through the whole ordeal a couple months ago. X1 already uses low level functions and close to metal programming, which is the biggest benefit that DX12 brings to the table. The improved shader pipeline and memory management will help, but again, it will be limited by the hardware.

The only way to improve the actual graphics as drastically as many were claiming, would be to find new ways of processing graphics data which is drastically different and much more efficient on the memory bus/processor. That's unlikely to happen, and if it were, it would be designed around a new processor architecture anyhow.

@rainslacker,

I don't believe it will make Xbox One a super machine, but I do believe it was designed with DX12 in mind. To run it as efficiently as possible. During the Build talk they mentioned having paths to send information. Some of the diagrams I've seen of the APU in One show multiple paths for the code to move.

It looks like it's not about sending massive chunks, but just what's needed without any delays. I admit I'm not in the field, but I do recall many of the different talks over the last year or so that don't mean much separately but taken together mean much more than some are saying. Especially when the detractors are coming from within Sony or from the press.