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Who Will Be The Second Place Console This Generation?

Depending on who you ask, the current generation first got underway when the Wii U launched in November of 2012, or else the race finally started when all the consoles came to market in November of 2013. Regardless of which date you choose to go by, one thing that’s clear is that even though this generation is just getting started, the Big Three have already sharply defined their respective positions for global sales. Sony has so far made few critical errors in terms of pricing and marketing, and they’re sitting in the #1 position both worldwide and in many of the bigger markets for games. Microsoft is sitting at #2 thanks to some serious PR, pricing and policy blunders leading up to launch that killed the momentum they were previously enjoying as America’s favourite console.

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Concertoine4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

I think MS has more potential than Nintendo. I mean the Wii U, even with a market much bigger now than 2001, is selling worse than the gamecube. Even then, MS' first console on the market beat the gamecube. However those two consoles are perfect examples of why "places" don't matter. The Xbox was a commercial failure and the Gamecube was a small success. These companies need to make money, and Nintendo has more potential to make profit because of the crazy dedication to their software, and the little to no loss on hardware.

The one thing Nintendo has over MS is the Japanese market but they don't care enough about consoles for it to matter. People act like the Wii U has been outselling it forever but it was only after the biggest exclusive for it this year.

I love the Wii U, though. I think it will be remembered fondly.

Ezz20134353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

All shall fall for the Mighty Ouya
http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/...

ape0074353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

edit : sorry guys i though the article was (who will be 3rd place)

Infamous2984353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

@Ezz2013 that gif was hilarious xD. Time to open my bubble wallet :).

InTheLab4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

God dude I hate to nitpick but the GC was a commercial and critical failure. Nintendo made no money off the GameCube for 3 years before they finally reduced cost enough to make money on each sold....which still wasn't enough to break even.

People continue to say that the GC and even the N64 were profitable and that is a flat out lie perpetuated by people who where not there to witness the nonstop price drops and stores with shelves filled with Cubes and 64's.

As for the topic, MS will catch the WiiU this year or early next. Unless Nintendo finds the casuals that won them last gen, they will pull up the rear and everyone will magically forget that the WiiU is losing Nintendo money and call it a success 10 years from now.

There's just too many games not coming to the WiiU for it to be anything but a secondary console with PC/ps4/XB1 the primary.

ABizzel14353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

I'd bet on XBO, but honestly it really depends on who drops their price first, or the lowest.

Nintendo needs to cut the price of the Wii U to $250 or less ($229) in March 2015 (American income tax season). Because I guarantee you MS is going to have a $349 XBO no later than April 2014 if their WW sales don't stay steady after their WW release.

If MS sees their numbers fall back down towards the 70k mark, that price cut is happening, and they're going to try and suck up all the income tax money, but if Nintendo gets it first then they're set for at least 1 more year ahead of the XBO.

However, it's inevitable. Nintendo's strongest market is Japan which is the smallest market of the big 3, and MS strongest market is NA which is the biggest of the big 3. The XBO has already outsold the Wii U in NA, and outsells it weekly by about 13k units, meanwhile the Wii U sales in Japan (8.5k) aren't enough to break even with the lead MS has in the US each week.

EU (the Wii U's worse performing region) has ironically been the Wii Us saving grace against the XBO. But when the XBO launches in more regions that sales cushion the Wii U has will likely be terminated.

So ultimately the XBO should take 2nd place, but Nintendo can put up a good fight if they're willing.

Concertoine4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

@InTheLab

Although i'd like to actually see ANY data regarding the profitability of the gamecube before i agree with you, my point still stands.

The Gamecube was MORE of a success than the Xbox, despite coming in "third place", because the Gamecube didn't lose the company anywhere near as much money as the original Xbox.

Also i'd gladly challenge you on the Xbone outselling the Wii U by end of this year or early next. I believe it will eventually catch up but Nintendo's holidays are always much better than MS'. The Wii U's second christmas almost outsold MS' first.

BullyMangler4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

hahahahaha haaaa!!!!! . .

If you guys seriously think that the console with the most (sales) is the one in the "lead" when it comes to G A M I N G then .

ahhhh! . ahhhhhh! haaa haaaa! haaaaaa haaaaaaa!!! . .

PS4 in the lead with the most sales.

wiiU in the lead with better higher quality, more CHALLENGING, more IMAGINATIVE more HARDCORE exclusives.

and neither Bayo, nor Zelda, nor Metroid for wiiU are even out yet, and already, already Nintendo DOMINATING the Gaming Culture ! .

ho ho .

choujij4352d ago (Edited 4352d ago )

Considering the Wii-U is currently in second and the rate they've been selling the last few months, Xbone will need to pick up steam in order to pass the Wii-U over the next couple of years. After all, didn't Wii-U just last month outsell Xbone world wide? You can't catch up unless you're selling more.

Since the PS4 is the preferred platform for multi-plats, Xbone doesn't have nearly as much going for it this gen as opposed to last gen. So for second place I'd put my money on Nintendo, cause their exclusives stay put and don't end up on PC or other consoles.

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ape0074353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

yep xbox one almost reached the wiiu sales without its big guns(SM3DW and MK8) and without having an extra year to sell

i believe halo MCC will stir lots of sales

Insomnia_844353d ago

1.PS4
2.WiiU
3.Ouya
4.Vita
5.Xbox One

mrpsychoticstalker4353d ago

Hahahhahahahha only in your dreams. Lol

Fanci4353d ago

@Insomnia Hold it down on the fanboyism

greenlantern28144353d ago

Yes most likely MS. Nintendo could learn something from MS about marketing. Although Wii U could keep it interesting as they find a place as people's second console.

sAVAge_bEaST4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

please. NO.. I would sincerely hope that Nintendo takes no Pages, from the M$. Astro.Turfing/Marketing Ways.

just be your self.. Nintendo.

We remember our youth, and want to pass it on. 2 future youths... watch the sale's boost this holiday.

rainslacker4352d ago

I agree on the marketing, although I can say that Nintendo does have a couple of compelling games coming, namely X(or whatever it's called now), and I guess Bayonetta 2(less compelling) if they ever get around to releasing it. Then of course they have their staple franchises. A bit disappointed with the next Zelda game so far though.

One nice thing about Nintendo is they do make some games which break from the norm and sameness that we see on the other two.

I think Nintendo just set themselves up well to be a secondary console once someone chooses their primary, and they are doing a lot better now than I assumed they would.

greenlantern28144352d ago

@sAVAge_bEaST. I want Nintendo to be themselves to when it comes to making games however You cannot denie that MS markets there product better. The fact that XB1 has an advertising campaign and the
Wii U's is virtually non existent says I am right

k-dillinger4353d ago

i think its safe to say its gonna be Nintendo worldwide appeal opposed to Microsoft just america once the games like zelda and smash bros its pretty much over for xbone

Magicite4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

Probably NOT Playstation console.

But with current pace both xbox and wiiU might become worst selling consoles from their respectful owners.

assdan4352d ago

I'm pretty sure it's the xbox one.

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Ezz20134353d ago

I used Logic and analyze it with science
those will take the 1st and 2nd place

1.Ouya
2.Vita

DigitalRaptor4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

Not completely.

Realistically, the only things that will stir the Xbone above the Wii U are Halo and Gears. You're forgetting that Wii U is yet to release strong titles like Zelda, Smash Bros, and the plethora of Mario games that never fail to push their consoles.

Then again, MS has the huge third party multiplats and Nintendo don't, so that could be a factor. It could go either way.

BiggerBoss4353d ago

Nintendo would have to really step up its marketing for that to happen. MS goes hard on advertising and has a secure hold on the US market (compared to the Wii U of course). I think the Ps4 will be a good amount of marketshare ahead while the Xbox one and Wii U are much closer in sales, similar to the 6th generation

kickerz4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

Yup it goes
1. Xbox one
2. Wi U
3. PS4
And yes I've been to the future, so what I say is fact.

Retroman4353d ago

Happen to run into Doc. an Marty future boy?

kickerz4352d ago

Haha yup, I asked him why we havnt got hover boards yet in 2014, he said something happened to the space-time-continuum last time he traveled back in time. Couldn't give me details though.

ChickenOfTheCaveMan4352d ago

You should not have wasted your opportunity in the future by going there high as a kite. Easiest gen to predict.

1.PS4
2.X1
3.Wii U

And the gap between the positions will be large, biggest being between the X1 and Wii U.

lizard812884353d ago

That is what I would say. Nintendo has better exclusives, while the xbone's will just wind up on the PC. Then it just comes down to third parties, which you could just buy on the PS4.

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Metallox4354d ago (Edited 4354d ago )

Does it matter? Xbox One is selling enough to get the multiplats. Wii U on the other hand carries the horrible relationships that Nintendo has with other publishers and it's underpowered. But is starting to sell better, so perhaps it could get some third titles, and it's even more possible considering the fact that publishers are still making games for last gen.

I don't think we should look who finishes in second place, we should just expect good sales for all platforms so we can get more games.

Vegamyster4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

The Xbox One isn't on a path right now to outsell the Wii-U at this point, the reason the Xbox One is getting multiplats is because that specific audience who came from the 360/PS3 buys 3rd party games, the Wii never got into that install base since it was aimed at a different market. If Nintendo had gone after that audience and had better relations with 3rd parties then they'd be getting those games on the Wii-U. Thing is Nintendo doesn't seem to care at this point and they need to improve those relations and their online infrastructure, hardware doesn't really have anything to do with it since the weaker 360/PS3 are getting 3rd party games that the Wii-U isn't.

Dunban674352d ago

Eventually XB1 will outsell the Wii u and in the end it will not be close

Both consoles have struggled so far but XB1 has 3rd party support and an exec team that has already shown they wil not sit back and do little or nothing while their sales don t meet expectations - Nintendo did very little until the latest e3 to help their cause and even then they addressed issues that should have been addressed at launch or close - once the games start rolling in for XB1 and PS4 they will both see a consistent increase in sales

stuna14353d ago

The one people buy second!/s

Pinkdolphinyfg4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

Funnily enough people are already declaring a winner this early even though the ps3 had an even bumpier start than the xbox one last gen and still managed to close the gap. I mean look at the ps3 in 2008. They had lost Final Fantasy and Gta as an exclusive, price was insane, other than mgs4 they had no big exclusives whereas Xbox had hits like Halo 3 and gears of war, money hatted the Cod 4 beta which was a surprise hit, party chat was a big feature, developers across the board hated the cell etc. Yet both consoles ended up selling 80 million with only a 1-2 million difference.

sashimi4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

Huge difference is Xbox brand is simply not as strong as the Playstation brand. Ps3 had EU & JPN, X1 does not. Its already lagging behind in its major territory which are US & UK. 360 had most of the superior multiplats advantage which X1 does not. PS3 first/2nd party paved the way, MS simply does not have the internal studios to carry Xbox like Sony did with the PS3.

I wouldn't expect much from tier 2 countries, they are tier 2 for a reason. If X1 couldn't even beat PS4 in the US where it sold the lion's share of the sales are we suppose to expect the rest of the world to carry the sales of such a American centric consoles?

some people may say its too early yet look at the WiiU. Beside X1's launch sales its been selling pretty poorly post launch.

I mean sure X1 can always turn around and sell better but from this point in time all signs point to PS4 being the console leader.

OrangePowerz4353d ago

While Sony recovered from a poor start despit the one uear head start the 360 had they didn't actually get that far ahead. Also realistically speaking the 80 million 360 unit's don't really reflect the numbers of users. A lot of people bought a new one when their original 360 died before MS extended the warrenty or traded up later when they introduced the model that had an HDMI port because the first model didn't have one. While it might look like MS did great the Xbox brand isn't that hugely popular.

Also MS only had the US and UK market while Sony had the others. Right now MS doesn't even have those and even if they regain the lead there that won't be enough as we have seen in the past and it's not likely that they get any of the Sony strongholds.

Dunban674352d ago

Xbox sold more software than the ps3 last generation and if you include digital sales they almost surely sold more software than the Wii last gen- so to say their sales numbers weren't t as legit as Sony s or Nintendos is not backed up by any real evidence

I only own Nintendo consoles but depending on the metrics used, the Xbox easily makes a case as last generations winner - considering it was only their 2nd generation they have been impresive up to their 3rd generation were they squandered a ton of their progress they had made w Don Matricks huge destruction of brand and value

DigitalRaptor4353d ago (Edited 4353d ago )

PlayStation is the stronger global brand. The PS3 caught up cause it was always going to. It came out 1 year (1.5 years in Europe) after the Xbox 360, which got an 8 million unit lead in that time. Had both consoles released simultanously, PS3 would be leading by approximately 10 million units.

Consider that the PS3 was last-gen's whipping boy for so long with all the disadvantages under the sun:
- $600
- awkward and unclear marketing
- barebones online network
- the "no games" stigma
- inferior multiplats
- hard to develop for
- gaming media 'doom and gloom'
- losing NPD monthly

Sony tripped on their own arrogance last-gen, and that was Microsoft's ONE-AND-ONLY chance to trump the PS3, and they failed. PS4 is market leader and has every advantage that X360 had last gen, and none of the disadantages to go with it. Xbox is the weaker global brand, and Xbone has less games, less power, less value, less potential to offer new experiences (VR) and less good will with gamers and developers.

I'm a bit tired of people considering that Xbone has a chance to surpass the PS4, especially after all the latest news. It won't and never will outsell a Sony console in a generation. PlayStation is close to where it was in PS2 era, and you don't surpass a console like that. Just a reality check.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio71d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing71d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9271d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit71d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing71d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9271d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted73d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8573d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele73d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk73d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay73d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10173d ago (Edited 73d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit73d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg72d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10172d ago (Edited 72d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14973d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay73d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn273d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn273d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown73d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay73d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay73d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac72d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger73d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300073d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde73d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde72d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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