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Sony sued over Killzone: Shadow Fall's graphics

The lawsuit alleges that "'temporal reprojection' is not the 'native 1080p' that Sony promised" and that Sony has not updated its packaging and marketing to reflect the game's actual resolution. Class allegations in the suit include negligent misrepresentation, false advertisement, unfair competition and fraud in the inducement. The amount sought in the suit exceeds $5,000,000.

famoussasjohn4303d ago

What sucks is being misled. Granted $5 million is rather excessive. I would just ask for my $60 back. Same would be for BF4 for being a complete mess.

kneon4303d ago

The problem is even if you were to win you wouldn't get your $60 back. After the lawyers take their cut you'll be lucky to have enough left over to buy lunch.

Class action lawsuits are almost always pointless, the only winners are the lawyers.

donthate4303d ago

There should be a ceiling on lawyer compensation as a percentage of the final settlement or payout.

That guarantees they will handle in the best interest of the client instead of some arbitrary number based on "how many hours or work was spent reported by me, the greedy lawyer".

That said, this will make Sony think twice about deceptive marketing. Don't say 1080p native, when you mean 1080p jagged experience (aka temporal reprojection)!

Aceman184303d ago

all i can say is wow lol. he won't see a dime of this money.

ShinMaster4303d ago

"I fail to see how this is any different than Xbox 360 game boxes displaying that games were 1080p when they were in fact 720p upscaled to 1080p."

Detoxx4303d ago

BF4 is not a mess for me. It's like every other Battlefield game, ever. I love it.

Utalkin2me4303d ago

@Detoxx

Stevie Wonder is that you?

kreate4303d ago

Glad they're getting sued. Win or lose.

This will show the industry not to do such things. Or at least be more clear.

DevilOgreFish4303d ago

ShinMaster -
"I fail to see how this is any different than Xbox 360 game boxes displaying that games were 1080p when they were in fact 720p upscaled to 1080p."

you mean at the back of the box? no game says "native" at the back of box unless it's part of the game's description of merits.

"In Beautiful 1080p Graphics!"

The back of every box is the support section. supports - "480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i ,1080p".

Sevir4303d ago

LOL WOW! but The game DOES run Native 1080p on SINGLE PLAYER. and Temporal reprojection is employed on Multiplayer to achieve 60fps... I cant believe that this is actually happening.

How and as far as the Box says for shadowfall... it says HD Video output 1080p... whether the console upscales it to that resolution or the TV does. NO WHERE ON THE BOX does the GAME EXPLICITY claims NATIVE!

and BF4 on PS4 doesn't list the native resolution but the box does say the very same thing for KILLZONE SHADOWFALL... my head hurts over this!

purp13m0nk3y4303d ago

Considering KZ MP is heaps of fun, plays brilliantly, has virtually zero bugs and looks gorgeous (irrespective of the 1080p argument) this is kind of sad.

Especially considering BF4 has been a complete mess and basically unplayable for much of it's release. Where do I sign to sue EA for that abomination?

As for KZ SF being native 1080p. Well I had thought that debacle had been settled months ago! I can't believe people are still arguing that it's not 1080p native. Just because the average gamer doesn't understand how the render pipeline for this game works, doesn't mean it's not 1080p native. It just means they are misinformed and/or ignorant.

This law suit will never see the courtroom. Anyone with at least some common sense and the ability to understand the tech behind the "temporal projection" technique will understand the stupidity of this suit.

Boody-Bandit4302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

Frivolous lawsuit and they wont see a cent of it.

It does not state on the box anywhere that it is "Native 1080p". Instead it's written "1080p video output". In the fine print it's written "Video Output in Full HD 1080p requires a "Native 1080p Display" This is a play on words that won't hold up. Lawyers are such leeches.

Image of KZ retail box
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/ent...

GG's lawyers will have a field day with this. Output vs Full HD vs Native will be a battle lost for these losers bringing forth this nonsensical lawsuit against GG. They have to prove intent to deceive. Not going to happen.

Gorilla_Killa_X4302d ago

I guess we have some lawyers up in here. Hahaha.

sinspirit4302d ago

@DevilOgreFish

"1080p" means native. If a game is 720p then the game is 720p, no matter if the console upscales it to a higher resolution, the actual content is at that resolution. What the console supports is different form what the game actually features.

KillZone: ShadowFall itself produces a native 1080p image. So, I would consider it native 1080p no matter what trick they used to get it to that native resolution.

callahan094302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

@sinspirit: "KillZone: ShadowFall itself produces a native 1080p image. So, I would consider it native 1080p no matter what trick they used to get it to that native resolution."

This is right. It's 1080p, and natively so. The actual image produced by the renderer is a native 1080p image. They employed some rendering tricks to get to that, but that doesn't make it any less so. It isn't rendered at 720p, or 900p, or any other resolution, then upscaled to 1080p. It is actually rendered at 1080p natively, which they accomplished by using temporal reprojection. And besides, the single player experienced was 1080p native WITHOUT temporal reprojection to assist the rendering process. So what's the problem here? This game was absolutely stunningly gorgeous, as well, so the complaints are just stupid.

Guitardr854302d ago

@youaresalty

I've heard this argument a lot about careers that other people think "make too much". If there was a cap on how much you make, then why choose that career in the first place?

ChronoJoe4302d ago

What about all of the Halo and Call of Duty games that come packaged with 720p or 1080p on the box?

What about Wipeout HD which is advertised as 1080p but actually dynamically switches between 720 and 1080p?

This is an interesting case, I'm fairly confident he won't be successful, but if he were it would set an interesting president leaving Microsoft and Activision with the most to lose.

Pain4302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

Pretty sad that people will try and sue a company over a games graphics.. Nothing better to do with your lives?

hears a hint play games get a life and try your hardest to find a wife and have a family and learn what life really is and not be daft loser fanboy suing a company over graphics oh sorry false advertising waaa waaa.. waaa.. shoot your self.

warczar4302d ago

@kneon

A class action lawsuit is about the only way you can sue a corporation. The "law" grants them all kinds protections, that's why they could give a fuck less about false advertising.

badz1494302d ago

OMG this is happening?? Let me join in the fun while we are at it but suing KZSF is kinda pointless as only the dumbs would believe it's not 1080p. Instead, let's us all sue EA for BF4 (that's acronym for BrokenField 4 if any of you are wondering) and Bethesda for Wolfenstein TNO because that game is proven to use variable resolutions to achieve 60fps when it was advertised as native 1080p! I think we'll have a better chance with those.

How dare they deceive us, right?

4Sh0w4302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

Listen let's cut the BS, Sony/GG were not upfront or totally transparent when it comes to KZSF's resolution BEFORE it launched but that doesn't amount to a lawsuit. Also I'm not defending sony but remember the singleplayer is native 1080p. At most I think the tiny minority upset over such a minor difference should have just returned the game to the store or asked sony directly for their money back. I mean are gamers that caught up in pixel counting that such a trivial difference makes the game itself any less enjoyable? imo KZ SF wasn't that good but it sure as hell had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH RESOLUTION. The game graphically looked amazing, really nothing visually to complain about.

This lawsuit is BS plain and simple.

CuddlyREDRUM4302d ago

@kneon... The lawsuit against EA from a couple years ago told me otherwise. All I did was fill out a form and got about fifty bucks.

When companies lie and get away with it stuff like this will happen again.

Dee_914302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

Why the hell do you all believe this lawsuit will go through? If this doesn't get thrown out immediately, which is very likely to happen, you bet your ass Sony will fight to the point the guy suing goes broke or his lawyers back out.

gootimes4302d ago

@YouAreSalty

Deceptive marketing? How is 1080p native single player and 1080p temporal deceptive?

That is why they didn't put native on the box! Because only the single player is standard native 1080p.

Microsoft claimed their games were 1080p, but they are up scaled! They don't get sued? Micro gets too many free passes, Killzone isn't even up scaled, the pixels are all there.

BallsEye4302d ago

What sucks is that suddenly by reading comments I see all the fanboys changing their tune and saying 1080p does not influence the experience and does not matter at all. If there's any XO game running 1 pixel below 1080p sh!t storm begins.

Giul_Xainx4302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

Whoever wanted to sue over this had to be a fanboy.

But seriously class action lawsuits are mostly a waste of everyone's time. The only winners in this scenario are the lawyers.

ShinMaster4302d ago

@ DevilOgreFish

It's still misleading. The back of PS3 game boxes said the actual resolution (720p or 1080i).

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Silver3604303d ago

For everybody that doesn't understand. This guy is not suing for 5 million by himself. Class action means that everyone that brought the game can be a part of the suit and get some small portion of money. Even if he does when he will no get that money by himself, it will be held for others to share.

iamnsuperman4303d ago

Still a large amount of money. It seems more of a ploy to get a settlement than to win out right.

Muzikguy4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

I doubt we will see anything, the lawyers will get the money. Personally I'm getting tired of the deception companies are trying to pull lately.

Magicite4303d ago

Nowadays You can get sued for almost anything and the more money You have the more You can loose.

JeffGUNZ4302d ago

To me, this is more of a march of awareness of the false advertising. It's good they are getting sued. I doubt they will have to pay much or anything as the single player runs in native 1080 I believe? Yet, it brings the issue to light that gamers don't want to be lied to. Saying it was not native 1080 on MP would have probably changed zero minds on whether or not they would have bought it.

CuddlyREDRUM4302d ago

If you purposefully lie to sell a product, yes you will get sued. Sony also tried something with Watch Dogs before it came out...

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Then a day later they found out it was false advertising and lying, having to retract it.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com...

joab7774303d ago

Would u really ask for ur money back? Yeah, I don't like being lied to, but c'mon, it didn't effect my experience 1 bit.

rezzah4302d ago

While that may be true for some or most, this case brings to light the intentions of Sony to the public. It puts Sony under a shadow and makes them lose trust, something they've recently been successfully building.

Also it with likely force them to be truthful about other future games resolutions, that is if they want to regain public trust (not overall, just primarily in the resolution department).

joab7774303d ago

After reading what is really going on, this is parsing words. Many games use many techniques that are not 1080 but are considered native.

It's actually a testament to the technique that it performs so well and allows resourced to b used elsewhere. We can nitpick but the other alternative, since so many tricks r used in making games, is to never say native or not but to give a paragraph long description of stuff most ppl won't understand anyway.

DoomeDx4303d ago

Guerilla's answer so this entire situation:

http://killzone.com/en_GB/b...

Technically, they have a point

Ju4302d ago

In that regard no game is native 1080p. The rendering pipeline consist of various buffers at various resolutions which are combined to render into a backbuffer. "Native" usually refers to that backbuffer being 1080p native. But how you combine those buffers often does use a 1:1 ratio. Filters are applied to textures before hand, shadowmaps are scaled, etc. This is nitpicking and ridiculous, seriously. But w/e. Some people just have creative business ideas...and here it sure isn"t Guerilla having that idea - even though I give them the props up for creativity coming up with the temporal scaling. Has never been done before. I guess what that guy really is suing about is the motion blur...which actually got toned down in a patch.

CuddlyREDRUM4302d ago

1080p has always been 1080 pixels running vertically, natively.

Temporal reprojection means it is not native 1080p. This means that they lied about it.

Technically, they lied about it.

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wsoutlaw874303d ago

This is so idiotic. Not only was no one deceived and the single player was in 1080 as the devs stated but it wasnt a main advertising point by sony. Hes stupid if he thinks he can prove in court that everyone should get their money back because of a technique they used that no one even noticed or cared about. It wasnt a main part of the game and the case doesnt say anything. Some idiot is just trying to make headlines and polygon is actually writing about it.

Kavorklestein4302d ago

It's killzone. Everyone should be begging for their money back... lol I'm kidding BTW but I do think if this goes through, that 5,000,000 is a bit extreme

Exari4302d ago

polygon finding something bad to say about sony. im not surprised

Gh05t4302d ago

I hate polygon as much as the next person but for them not to run a story like this would be irresponsible as a news outlet. Bash them for all the other news they overlook but not for what they do report unless its reported with bias.

Blaze9294302d ago

sad part about this lawsuit is Sony will likely have to settle. Based off a simple technicality - that's all you need in the court of law in MERICA.

http://blog.eu.playstation....

"Then there’s the competitive multiplayer mode which, like the game’s campaign, runs at native 1080p and 60 fps."

the fact that to this day, Sony hasn't changed that seems funny. And that's all the lawers will need to point to as well as DF's article to win - a technicality.

rdgneoz34302d ago

"And that's all the lawers will need to point to as well as DF's article to win - a technicality."

Yet the back of the box does not say native 1080p... Articles are wrong every day, and not every one goes back an corrects it's mistakes. And that article was not written by a member of the GG team.

From BurtallyHonest's post:

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/ent...

Notice "1080p HD video output"? Doesn't say native. That one word left out will win them the lawsuit.

extermin8or4302d ago

They won't have to settle because native means the frame isn't upscale and Killzone frames aren't upscale. They simply are using an algorithm to generate pixels based on where that pixel was in the previous 2 frames and it's motion. It requires less of the hardwares power todo this than to regenerate all the pixels every frame. Despite this the image outputted isn't stretched andni a 1080p display will be 1080p and wont require any upscaling.

ziggurcat4302d ago

Like all of the other frivolous lawsuits filed against Sony in the last 4 years, this one will also fall flat on its face.

The last I read about this idiotic suit, the complainants were saying that killzone was 720p... Which it is most certainly not. That alone would be enough to throw the suit out of the window.

Ju4302d ago

It still IS native 1080. It carries all the information of a 1080 frame each frame. How this is done is something for engineers to define. But from a pure visual standpoint, you get the full information of a 1080p frame - each frame. Now if some of those pixels are actually 16ms late is irrelevant in that respect. He didn't sue for "half of my pixels are late"...and I am sure he wouldn't (nor would any judge) understand what that means.

kenshiro1004302d ago

Settle for what? These people have no case.

CuddlyREDRUM4302d ago

The game doesn't run at 1080p, that is more than a technicality.

gootimes4302d ago

^
The game absolutely runs at 1080p, that is a fact.

Single player 1080p NATIVE, mp 1080p temporal.

- doesn't claim "native" 1080p on game jacket.

- "game experience may change online"

Just because there was a slip up on the website doesn't mean the game jacket advertised it as such. People mess up on blogs all the time. Look at Aaron Greenberg saying all Xbox One games are 1080p. Should MS be sued?

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avengers19784302d ago

Well here's a waste of people's money... They are never going to win this lawsuit... KZSF runs 1080p in single player, and the MP runs 60 fps. It's a good game, looks great, and plays great. Once they put a copy in a PS4 and show the judge the game he/she is going to say sorry case closed.

Death4302d ago

"Temporal reprojection" is upscaling. The problem here and the confusion is from people's perception of upscaling. Early upscalers simply stretched the image to fit the screen. The upscalers we have today are filling pixels exactly how GG explains their technique. Why Sony feels the need to rename upscaling is beyond me. It is very deceptive and not necessary. The only ones that care about native vs upscaled graphics are the Playstation fans that have been told it makes a difference.

rdgneoz34302d ago

"The only ones that care about native vs upscaled graphics are the Playstation fans that have been told it makes a difference."

I guess you missed all the PS360 DF / graphics / AA comparison articles last gen. The ones with the 360 bragging for the first half of the gen when not many knew how to work with the cell and the 360 was easier to work with.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and suddenly graphics do not matter. Especially when at launch (and for several months after) you pay $100 more for lesser graphics.

extermin8or4302d ago

@death no temporal reprojection isn't upscaling the difference is an upscale frame/image is generated in a lower resolution THEN stretched. If you are using temporal reprejection the frame is only ever generated in 1080p the adding of pixels is done prior to this and is based on past frames. Whereas in other upscaling the frame is upscale by adding in pixels post generation. So if say there's a pixel of value 2 and a pixel next to one another generally a pixel value of 3 being added Inbetween the two will be given a value somewhere between the two. (really crude example. Plus the box and posters etc never said 1080p native they justify 1080p. Let's be honest this guy suing is some sad act xbox fancy who likely doesn't even own a ps4 let alone Killzone.y the

Death4302d ago

When Sony kept downplaying the Xbox 360 saying it wasn't "TrueHD", they brought it on themselves. "HD starts when we say it starts" ring a bell? You didn't see Microsoft or it's fans claiming the 360 was going to dominate, it was the other side. When the PS3 released and didn't live up to expectations what did you think would happen? Yes, people did point and laugh when the "super computer" turned out to be a game console after all.

ziggurcat4302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

@death:

No, it's not upscaling. You've completely missed the mark on what temporal projection does, not do you really get what upscaling means. Upscaling is taking a smaller image, and artificially enlarging it while temporal projection is very similar to an interlaced resolution in that it very quickly alternates between even/odd lines of pixels. It's still a full 1920 x 1080 image being displayed, it's not taking 960 x 1080, and stretching it to fit 1920 x 1080.

nitus104302d ago

@Death

I think it is best for people who are interested in "Temporal reprojection" to go to the Killzone web site, which is: https://www.killzone.com/en...

Personally I think this litigation is stupid but you can never tell when the lawyers on both sides bring out their arguments in "legalese" (only understood by the law profession not Professional Engineers). Nobody wins except the lawyers.

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lelo4302d ago

Contrary to moron fanboy belief, every company lies to sell a few more copies of their games... Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo.

legionsoup4302d ago

Why is someone suing Sony for Killzone, but no one sued Sega for Aliens Colonial Marines?

Blaze9294302d ago

if you read, you'd see that the ones behind the suit are also the ones behind the Aliens litigation.

Spenok4302d ago

My god people are retarded. Are you kidding me? People are some damn entitled little brats to think they deserve ANY money after something like this.

This is ridiculous and it's stories like this that makes me sad to call myself a gamer.

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fonger084303d ago

Wow, if the plaintiff is really just trying to make a name for his/her self, there are plenty of other non-wasting time/tax payer money to go about this.. got love of our American judicial system... sigh.

wsoutlaw874303d ago

tax payer money? Im sure both sides would pay a good share of court fees. But, it will never get that far.

DVS-Zev4303d ago

This is so hilariously sad.The army of lawyers on Sony's legal retainer will annihilate this desperate cash grab attempt.

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Yahdaree4303d ago

I hope so DVS. Besides shouldn't we be getting money from BF4 first for a game that honestly did not even work.

JeffGUNZ4302d ago

The law firm would not take the case if they didn't think they had any grounds to proceed. Obviously this law firm believes Sony committed the list of offenses to file the claim.

Majin-vegeta4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

Wait the guy wants $5,000,000??Lol he wont get squat.

The guy maybe could have had a case when the game released but almost a year later and he barely brings it up.He has no chance.

I hope Sony sues this clown in return for the amount he wants.For making them waste their time.

mydyingparadiselost4303d ago

This is a class action lawsuit, the money would be dispersed to anyone affected by the lawsuit i.e. anyone who bought the game. As of March the game had sold 2.1 million copies and was the best selling PS4 game.
Let's say the sales now stand at 3 million and the lawyers get a 20% cut. That leaves 4 million dollars left for the participants in the lawsuit. That's like a $1.25 that the people who bought the game would receive in compensation for being falsely advertised to. The reason the number is 5 million is because it's a paltry sum to give when the amount of sales is so substantial.
At the same time some people will be left out of the lawsuit, others will decide to simply take themselves out of the lawsuit and other such things, so the amount of people getting money would probably be more like 1 1/2 million. Also even if the lawsuit is won it won't be for 5 million, Sonys lawyers are better than that, but the amount would still be pocket change to anyone that would be paid out from this.

Majin-vegeta4303d ago

But if the guy has played online.He has no case.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/...

mydyingparadiselost4303d ago

I could make a contract stating that if you use my services you can't sue me but it wouldn't be held up in a court of law. It's up to the lawyers making their cases and, ultimately, the judge to decide whether such an agreement will hold up in court or whether it has bearing on this case. Just because a company says it doesn't make it legal, it just gives them something to point at and say "See, we said it, right there!"

Dasteru4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

A ToS isn't a key to the world. I could write a ToS saying, "look at me the wrong way and i can kill you" that doesn't make it legal. A ToS is simply a companies way of notifying users of their existing rights, not imparting new ones. The law still applies. If the court determines that Sony did commit false advertising, their ToS won't mean anything.

Back-to-Back4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

@Majin Proof that N4G kids don't understand what a class action lawsuit is.

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15 Last-Gen Games That Still Compete with Current-Gen Graphics

GB: "Say what you will about the state of the industry, but even as games evolve, their graphics remain a key aspect. Even some of the biggest flops this year sport some gorgeous visuals, as publishers and developers push the boundaries of what’s possible, pouring years of time and money into their work."

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darthv72565d ago

Quantum Break and Ryse are two that I was really surprised did not get an FPS boost option when played on the Series X|S. when i started playing both on the XBO, I thought they are both good, but after playing them also on my steam deck (in 60fps) I just cant go back and play the base games on XB. They really benefit from that faster frame rate.

Driveclub is another i wished had a HFR mode on PS5.

MatrixxGT565d ago

Most games this gen are the exact same except now we get faster loading through SSD and a res and fps bump. Graphically not much has improved, hell most last gen games are being relabeled and resold as “remastered” with the aforementioned updates.
I haven’t seen or played anything on either platform that couldn’t be run on last gen. Guess the law of diminishing returns is really showing itself these days.

127maXimus564d ago

Most games from 20 years ago are basically the same as today, with resolution and fps upgrades. The AI is still just as braindead as it always has been, worlds are full of static, boring characters that do the same thing over and over.

Demetrius564d ago

Smh another reason why graphics haven't improved that much is because most devs too caught up on cross gen. Ps4 was/still a dope console but time has moved on we're halfway close to a ps6 reveal and devs still will be making games on last gen in 2025. Then theres Microsoft purposely got the Xbox series s that causes more devs to try to pull strings as much as they can smh. It's a mixed bag of stuff, the only ones I see pushing hardware is sonys studios and even some indie games look better

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman572d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX572d ago (Edited 572d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne572d ago (Edited 572d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro572d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken571d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown572d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72572d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken571d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya571d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast572d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood572d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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Killzone After a Decade in Hibernation

It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.

Obscure_Observer915d ago

Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.

Vengeance1138915d ago

lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.

Cacabunga914d ago

With the downfall of COD and BF, Killzone def. has a chance to make a groundbreaking comeback

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Notellin914d ago (Edited 914d ago )

What a low-functioning reply here typical of the fanboy N4G community.

Rimeskeem915d ago

“Dumped”

I think it’s called moving on.

Barlos914d ago (Edited 914d ago )

They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.

I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.

1Victor914d ago

@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”

Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.

ChasterMies914d ago

“Sadly”?

The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.

Shane Kim914d ago

True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.

Mr_cheese914d ago

Dumped and shelved are two different things

Tacoboto914d ago

And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.

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GoodGuy09915d ago

I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.

Flawlessmic914d ago

Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.

Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.

blackbeld914d ago

To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.

Rynxie914d ago

And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.

Lightning77915d ago

I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.

Sharky231913d ago

@Lightning77

I think WarHawk would have been a great Live service game.

thorstein914d ago

Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.

I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.

P_Bomb914d ago

It’s been a decade? Now I’m sad.

LiViNgLeGaCY913d ago

I hear ya bud. We're due for a revival.

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