@Johndoe
The CD Projekt Red team has a lot more experience with Direct X and that's why it's easier for them to develop for X1.

This is in relation to the RAM and not the API.

Even if developers MASTERED Xbox One's eSRAM...
http://i.imgur.com/FSd2iWd....
That's still a no. Sorry.

@KNWS
Ok ill play your little game

"Well lets look at the PS4 Infamous was only 30 frames"
well to be accurate InfamousSS is 30-45fps but i guess you prefer much lower since RYse drops to 16fps and never a constant 30 frames dead Rising 3 runs at 720p and frames drop to 14fps So don't bring up Sony games performance when xbox games can't do any better :/.

"(in fact Sony is getting sued by the courts for lying about the game claiming the multiplayer was 1080p when it was 720p in reality."

Well next we should we sue MS for false advertisement since Forza 5 didn't look like it like all the gameplay we saw before the game released wouldn't you say MS lied :o.

"PS4 isn't a beast at all and destiny proved it once and for all. If the PS4 was vastly superior destiny would be 60 frames on PS4"
So what about tomb Raider definite addition that was 60 fps on PS4 but 30 on XOne even then you denied that PS4 was more Powerful so now because Destiny aimed for Parity it means something or it could means that they are trying to make sure everyone get's the same experience on all platforms
"It’s also worth noting that, ultimately, there might not be any real-world difference at all. Most games are developed with cross-platform, lowest-common-denominator compatibility in mind. Developers are unlikely to create a game that runs well on the PS4, but chugs along on the Xbox One"

"Even the remastered Last Of US drops frames down to the 40's in some areas. Hardly a 60 frames game!!"
like i said before the last remastered game on Xone couldn't even hit 60 frames and i know that their are allot of Hardly 30 frames games on Xone Buuuuuut that's not my Business http://www.marketmenot.com/...

"I laugh at you Sony fanboys all the time, you guys are delusional and need serious help"

Bruh http://24.media.tumblr.com/...
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"I can accept the xb1 is slightly weaker than the ps4, but this 50% power difference has no basis in reality."

"Slightly" you say http://gameswallpaperhd.com...

"When crackdown comes out using the cloud for destruction freeing up resources off the GPU it will might dawn on you guys than how different the xb1 really is."

http://gifatron.com/wp-cont... ummmmmmm ok.

@KNWS When someone says something negative about the XB1 on here. You always seem to just bring the PS4 into it even though the post has noting to do about the PS4.

Why? You are actually getting worse than that truefan guy.

I love how butthurt xsilver got. Look at that post. It's like a junior high kid got upset and started throwing a temper tantrum. You can feel the fanboy seeping out of it lol. I love that he went and probably spent ten minutes looking for articles and gifs to link to it. Maybe you should take a break from n4g if you can't handle a little ribbing.

KNWS @

you are a delusion xbone fanboy . I posted a article explaining Temporal Reprojection & Shadow Fall 1080P . But you and your xbone fanboys are in deep delusion and don t believe in facts or technology . Yes KillZONS SF is in full HD 1080p but uses a technique named temporal reprojection that takes a old frame of and combines it with a new frame pre rendering to make a new frame in full HD 1080p pre rendering not upscaled pre rendering .
http://n4g.com/news/1469012...

but im sure you and your xbone fanboys will enjoy your fantasies

@KNWS

You know Killzone does run at 1080p, not 1920x1080p but 920x1080p. 1080p normally refers to 1920x1080p but really 1080p is only referring to how many vertical lines there is, 1080p doesn't always mean 1920x1080p but it ALWAYS means 1080p vertically

The person above explained it better, as KZSF does take two images to make a full 1080p image, but even without it, its still 1080p.

Killzone single player is full 1080p @ 40 - 60fps.Only multiplayer is 960x1080.
Tianfall is 792p @ 35 - 60fps with near constant tearing.

Infamous is full 1080p at around 45fps.
Ryse is 900p at 25fps

COD Ghosts is 1080p @ 40 - 60fps (PS4)
COD Ghosts is 720p @ 30 - 60fps (Xbone)

BF4 is 900p @ 40 - 60fps (PS4 10fps advantage average)
BF4 is 792p @ 30 - 60fps (Xbone)

AC4 is 1080p at solid 30fps (PS4)
AC4 is 900p at solid 60fps (Xbone) (reduced/missing assets)

Watchdogs is 900p at 30fps (PS4)
Watchdogs is 792p at 30fps (Xbone reduced/missing assets)

MGS:GZ is full 1080p @ solid 60fps (PS4)
MGS:GZ is 720p @ 60fps (Xbone)

Tomb Raider is 1080p at 35 - 60fps (PS4)
Tomb Raider is 1080p at at 18 - 30fps (Xbone)

Etc etc...

@KNWS:

"Killzone 30 frames (in fact Sony is getting sued by the courts for lying about the game claiming the multiplayer was 1080p when it was 720p in reality."

uh... no. killzone is native 1080p. where are you getting 720p from?

and the lawsuit is going to fall flat on its face (if it hasn't already).

Quote :

"...The removal of Kinect gave the XBO a 10% GPU boost, bringing it up from 1.31 TFLOPS to it's current 1.441 TFLOPS..."

WRONG!

Xbone has 1.31 TFLOPS from the start ( or after upclock ) Before upclock Xbone GPU had 1.23 TFLOPS. There IS NO 10% boost after Kinect removal! They just freed up some GPU resources.

10% were reserved for Kinect before. So, it was 1.18 TFLOPS. Now, Kinect reservation is GONE.

You gave the link from insiderp! http://www.insiderp.com/ps4...

Quote :

FLOPS : 1.3 TF (10% of the SYSTEM RESOURCES DEDICATED to Kinect)

Get it?

EDIT :

"...It's possible, but the 10% boost would put it above the 1.32 TFLOPS, and if it was originally 1.18 TFLOPS it puts it below the 1.32 TFLOPS (although in this case other components could bump it up to 1.32).

I know it says 1.3 with 10% of the system resources dedicated to Kinect, but there's nothing stating that the 1.3 TFLOPS is including the Kinect boost or not, unless I'm missing something.

So for now I'll say 1.32 TFLOPS - 1.441 TFLOPS. ..."

Yes, you missing something! You got a really bad math.

I can't believe it what i'm reading here. It is just simple math. 10% GPU "boost" is Microsoft PR.

Once again.

Xbox One GPU 1.31 TFLOPS ( from the start ). 10% of that 1.31 were RESERVED for Kinect before. You know what RE
SERVED means, right? So 10% of that 1.31 is 0.131 which is 1.179 TFLOPS. Now, MS FREED UP that 10% Kinect GPU resources for developers, NOT ADD ANY new GPU resources and developers have full 1.31 at their disposal.

There is NO 1.32 TFLOPS! There is NO 1.38 TFLOPS! There is NO 1.44 TFLOPS!!! It is just 1.31 TFLOPS! Get it now?

Xb1: 1.18 TF GPU (12 CUs)
Xb1: 768 Shaders
Xb1: 48 Texture units
Xb1: 16 ROPS
Xb1: 2 ACE/ 16 queues
Xb1: 13.65GPixels/s
Xb1: 40.90GTexels/s

@Dread

No problem. I have no hidden agenda. I'm a multi-console owner (XBO is all I have left to buy for this generation, and I'm getting it in August), and a PC gamer. Hardware is simply hardware, there's no getting around it. THe XBO isn't a bad system at all, none of them are. But for gaming the XBO's specs are suited for 900p @ 30 - 60fps for high end PC gaming.

@imt558

It's possible, but the 10% boost would put it above the 1.32 TFLOPS, and if it was originally 1.18 TFLOPS it puts it below the 1.32 TFLOPS (although in this case other components could bump it up to 1.32).

I know it says 1.3 with 10% of the system resources dedicated to Kinect, but there's nothing stating that the 1.3 TFLOPS is including the Kinect boost or not, unless I'm missing something.

So for now I'll say 1.32 TFLOPS - 1.441 TFLOPS.

@imt558

First off you don't have to be rude, I understood what you were saying, but obviously you're the one with the misunderstanding.

I was saying there's no way of knowing if the XBO was originally 1.31 TFLOPS before or after the Kinect boost.

The R7 260 has 1,536 TFLOPS of performance. The XBO as I've shown has a practically identical specs outside of the clock rates (1 GHz vs the XBO's original 800 MHz). They basically underclocked the GPU by 20%.

1,000 (aka 1 GHz) * 0.8 (aka 80%) = 800

When you do the same math with the TFLOPS

1,536 GFLOPS * 0.8 (again 80%) = you get 1,228.8 or.........1.23 TFLOPS as originally announced.

Then they increased the clocks by around 6.5% (800 * 1.065 aka 6.5% = 852MHz, 1MHz away from the current 853MHz) which is where the 1.31 TFLOPS came from (1,309.95 GFLOPS to be exact).

"Xbox One GPU 1.31 TFLOPS ( from the start ). 10% of that 1.31 were RESERVED for Kinect before. You know what RE
SERVED means, right? So 10% of that 1.31 is 0.131 which is 1.179 TFLOPS. Now, MS FREED UP that 10% Kinect GPU resources for developers, NOT ADD ANY new GPU resources and developers have full 1.31 at their disposal."

Like I said, this is a flat out lie, because the increase of the clock speeds for the CPU and GPU wouldn't have been needed or done if the XBO was already doing 1.31 TFLOPS. As you said 10% of 1.31 TFLOPS is 1.179 TFLOPS, which completely goes against what SEVERAL sources have said the XBO was running at prior to the announcement of the console.

1.23 TFLOPS (Jan 2013)
http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

1.23 TFLOPS (May 2013)
http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

1.23 TFLOPS (July 2013)
http://www.neowin.net/news/...

And then the boost.

Clack Speed from 800MHz to 853MHz
http://www.ign.com/articles...

Clock Speed from 800MHz to 853MHz
http://www.techspot.com/new...

http://i.qkme.me/35qo9j.jpg

im glad someone agrees, i never played the ps4 version of tomb raider, but i do also know that the ps4 version of thief suffered too, i remember one of my friends got rid of it and bought it for xbone. Im not a fanboy or trying to cause a war between you children on here, im simply stating a fact that i noticed between the different console versions of the same game

Maybe because those were launch titles? Did Watchdogs or newer titles by those publishers suffer as well?

i dont know dude i gave up, i wanted to play stable versions of the games so i havent tried anything since, i just get it on my xbox, i will be getting TLOU on friday but i know that will not suffer any problems with frame rate (i hope) but as for multiplatform games i will get them on xbox only from now on and i will get exclusives on ps4, the same as i did with 360/ps3