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Editoral: Killzone 2: Previews & Innovation

Killzone Unit writes: "Much love and much hate has divided many gamers over Killzone 2. Of course us fans of the series are eager to jump on any bit of news that seeps out of the Guerrilla wood works. But as always, we must remember that along with every game preview and hands-on sessions, there's good, as well as bad comments to be heard. Many previews which I've personally read bring up some real valid concerns regarding the PlayStation Day build of Killzone 2 and I think it's great that the Guerrilla Games has time to analyze and act upon each concern if they choose to.

Before I go any further, I'd like to mention that this isn't a name calling and finger pointing session, but rather an observation. In a guest Edge Magazine column, Level Up journalist, N'gai Croal wrote about the importance of game previewers writing what they see at the moment they preview a game. I have a similar belief, but when there are somwhat contradictory comments made within these previews, that's when we should start the questioning what we read."

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CViper6557d ago (Edited 6557d ago )

No one attacked Halo3's Single Player Innovation.
No one attacked COD4's Single Player Innovation.

Everyone is attacking KZ2's Single Player Innovation, without even seeing the multiplayer.

Sony isn't allowed to release games that aren't innovative while Microsoft clearly is. I'm sorry but I'm fed up with every single sony title getting interrogated on Innovation.

Halo3 stole everything from PC shooters.
Gears stole from kill.switch and every other shooter out
Cod4's single player much like Halo3's was skipped by reviewers due to the strong multiplayer, and given passes for being entirely too short. I didn't see anything innovative in either title Single Player.

So where are all of these innovative titles? Since its always a problem for Sony's titles lacking it.

There must be a list or at least 10 AAA titles that have truly innovated this generation to where none of the features ever existed in gaming. If not, I'm sure as hell confused on what Innovation Sony is required to make, when no one else is.

Silogon6557d ago

I agree 100% with what you said. Every time Sony has a game coming out the media jumps on it and starts picking the flaws intensly. They never do this with Halo or Gears or Mass effect or anything on the system really.

They even said Halo 3's sp was short and still adorned it with 10's.

TheExecutive6557d ago

couldnt have said it better myself. Anyone who claims that KZ2 lacks innovation is just searching for something to hate on.

darkshiz6557d ago

It's a industry double standard.

The gaming GOD6557d ago (Edited 6557d ago )

I mean come on, you think they don't know how critical the U.S. media is on ANYTHING Sony related?

They see how Sony games, ESPECIALLY exclusive games are treated like they ALWAYS have something wrong while Microsoft's games are made out to be perfect gems by the media.

Any flaw from Microsoft's games get overlooked while any flaw from a Sony game is WELL publicized.

But this goes to show how sheep-like the American public as a whole are. If you look at the rest of the world, they don't buy into this whole "Microsoft is God" scenario like the U.S. does.

And what name said below me is also true, it is like the media ONLY looks to Sony for innovation while they say it's ok for Microsoft to just follow the crowd and reap the rewards.

And yes I am American. I'm not trying to hate. But I'm just calling it as I see it

Godoftheweek6557d ago

You have in one post showed without a doubt the BLATANT bias against the PS3. I am beginning to wonder if this double standard was decided soon after the 2006 E3. Up until then Sony was king, but after a forgettable and hugely underwhelming E3 2006, the press seemed ANGRY at Sony for "duping" them on the power of the PS3.

Nintendo can do no wrong even though the have not had a NEW IP since Pikmin in 2003. Microsoft showed a Halo3 trailer that was CLEARLY CG and yet when they showed what the game really looked like, NOT one thing was said about it.

Why the blogs want Sony to fail is beyond me. WE NEED SONY. Can you imagine a world of just Nintendo and Microsoft? No fracking way. A healthy Sony is good for ALL gamers, not the soccermoms.

I really do not care anymore about all the crap sites like Kotaku and Joystiq sling at Sony. As long as Sony keeps on constantly improving the PS3, I will be happy and eventually the rest of these "blogs" will finally pull the giant Mario/Gates Big Stick out of tier collective rearends and review games on an EVEN playing field.

RAmen to you sir and bubbles for you.

Vojkan6557d ago

HARD GAY@

They know PS3 is not needed, or Sony as hardware maker is not a must and if Sony stops making hardware, they will still stay in software industry just like SEGA and this is where they will get Sony games on their xboxs and Nintendos.
USA is on Sonys neck and wont stop, not now not ever.

SL1M DADDY6557d ago

I will have to say this however; let the media have their day, they hate on Sony and have nearly zero rights to do so these days, especially with what Sony is doing to make their console shine. No matter the mud they sling, I know better and as a Sony fan (a gaming fan at heart) I know that the games and the system are great. Those that fall for the medias over zealous scrutiny of the Sony games and hardware are simple sheep and have no mind of their own to deduce from their own reasoning what games and systems make them happy.

Bolts6557d ago

There's a time and place for innovations, KZ 2 however is not the time nor is it the game for radically innovations. At this stage the formula for what make a good shooter has been perfected and rather than departing from that the fans are more focused on features, 32 players, dedicated servers, player customizations etc etc...

Clinton5146557d ago

It would seem many journos are hanging onto their bitter believe of 4D and what the PS3 "should have been" and continuously judge games based on that.

As someone mentioned, they hold Sony exclusives to one standard and the other consoles at another. Hardly fair.

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name6557d ago

Basically the responsiblity to innovate is put on Sony's shoulders, while microsoft reaps the rewards for doing what's safe. Talk about a thankless job.

pwnsause6557d ago

i laugh when someone says killzone 2 lacks innovation while watching the graphical achievement done in the game, and the first person cover view in the game HHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH

PoSTedUP6557d ago

very well put man that comment was amazing, bubbles from me. peace and god bless.

funkysolo6557d ago

I see Killzone2 the way I used to look at gears of war preveiw. I'm excited everytime I see it and I hope it gets grittier. I almost would like less color and red would be the only colour palette like blood and red crosses I think it would define Killzone2.

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman578d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX578d ago (Edited 578d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne577d ago (Edited 577d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro577d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken577d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown578d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72578d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken577d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya577d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast578d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood577d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro806d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72806d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_806d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga806d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23806d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000807d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin807d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole807d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix807d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989806d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989806d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1111d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1111d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1111d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1110d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491110d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381111d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1111d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1111d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381111d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1111d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761111d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1110d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301111d ago (Edited 1111d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1110d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1111d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1111d ago (Edited 1111d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1110d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1110d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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