@ali

1. PC also has game optimization and with this Gen PC ports would be easier to make

2. Consoles are not like that anymore, you need to update your system and games before you can play some games.

3. Each system has its own exclusives

4. It depends who you're friends with. If you're friends with adults than they will game on PC but if you're friends with kids than they would be on consoles.

5. Less and less games are offering that and there are tons of PC games,with couch co-op

6. You can plug a PC into a TV and sit on the couch any way you want while using a controller.

1. Software prices - PC
2. Hardware prices - consoles
3. Online multiplayer fees - free on PC
3. Library selection - PC
4. Exclusives - Both
5. Ease of use - consoles
6. More open with more options - PC
7. Marketing - consoles
8. Power and performance - PC (scaleable)
9. Co-op and local multiplayer - consoles
10. Future proof - PC (scalaeable)

meanwhile at QuakeCon 2014,

"XBL booo..."

Wow, the PC supremacists have been on a role lately.
Could they be any more insecure?

- You seem to assume that people should care more about technical graphics than the games themselves. I'm sorry, but you cannot make experiences worth coming back to with just graphics. Gameplay, story and art direction take priority. At least for me.

- Mods don't make games great. A good game is a good game no matter what. Garry's Mod is great. But Half Life 2 is not great because of Garry's Mod. Far Cry 2 had a far more expansive creation kit and didn't have nearly the success. Why? Because Far Cry 2 wasn't as good as Half Life 2. It’s like saying Star Wars is the greatest series ever because George Lucas keeps putting out new and "improved" editions.

- Mouse and keyboard are better for strategy games and FPS only. WASD is so outdated.

- That's assuming that I got rid of my previous console/s in the first place. Also, recent versions of Windows have had compatibility issues playing older games.

In the end, console exclusives from first and third party studios, along with friends who are playing on the same platforms you are and they overall feel of a more unique experience than a regular computer, counts more for me.

Me too! I am gaming at 1600p with 2 GTX 680s currently. I still think it will take 2 gtx 780s or two 880 to game at high settings at 4k.

@ShinMaster

You do realize Steam has far more online players than the PS4, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, Wii U, and XBox One right?

Lots of games now are supported by a game controller but many still prefer k/m because it's more accurate. Why do you think some developers don't like cross-platform play? It's because they know console gamers are at a disadvantage. You can still play with a controller on the PC for most new games. Options are GOOD.

Mods add replayability to existing games. Some are great, some not so great. The fact is you don't have to use them, they are a BONUS.

PC games can have a technical advantage AND also have great art, gameplay and art. You seem to be under the assumption game developer talent only exists on consoles.

"Could they be any more insecure?"

Odd considering here you are trying to defend consoles. The fact is the PC offers far more flexibility and isn't behind a walled garden. What consoles do have is marketing.

nah man better wait for next generation, 880 still packing 28nm node. better wait 20nm or possibly 16nm next year.

@ Darkstares

When did I say I cared how many players there are online on PC or any platform?

You missed my point about mods.

Yes, PC fans are insecure. You don't see me going into PC articles the same way PC elites jump into console articles, especially those that talk about graphics.

If a console game isn't 1080p@60fps, console gaming gets bashed.
And if a console game IS 1080p@60fps (see recent Uncharted 4 article), PC gamers don't even allow console gamers to be excited about the game because "it's nothing new and should have been that way years ago". As if playing old games in 1080@60 made them any more next-gen.

ShinMaster wrote,

"When did I say I cared how many players there are online on PC or any platform?"

You mentioned friends and a unique experience. Have you even played online on the PC? It offers the same thing, and for free.

"You missed my point about mods."

No I didn't. Your argument is they add nothing when they do. You missed the point entirely because they are added bonuses and the mod community can come up with very good ideas. They can even come up with new layouts and maps. The mod community is also able to upgrade games, and for FREE. Ever play the high res Skyrim?

"Yes, PC fans are insecure. You don't see me going into PC articles the same way PC elites jump into console articles, especially those that talk about graphics."

If they are insecure what does that make console gamers who seem to make up the most heated discussions about why my console is better than your console? Do they not also get all giddy about graphics, frame rates? Do they also not act immature when it comes to exclusives? Besides, is this not an article about the PC? If so why are you here?

"If a console game isn't 1080p@60fps, console gaming gets bashed.
And if a console game IS 1080p@60fps (see recent Uncharted 4 article), PC gamers don't even allow console gamers to be excited about the game because "it's nothing new and should have been that way years ago". As if playing old games in 1080@60 made them any more next-gen."

Not as much as the bashing that's been going on because the XB1 doesn't have as good of a frame rate or resolution. In fact PC gamers put console fanboys in check because so very often they act all superior. How many times do we see Uncharted being mentioned and how it is only possible on the PS3 or PS4? That is insecurity because they have to try and rub it in and argue. So why is that any different when PC gamers come in and say if it was on the PC it would do 1080p and 60fps no problem? Console gamers suffer from a superiority complex and that is why they HATE when PC gamers come in.

Like any hobby people will invest in what they can afford and PC gaming can take the hobby to the extremes. Why are console fans insecure about them? We all share the same hobby yet console gamers want to exclude themselves from the PC master race so they can argue all day about how their console is so much better than the other console.

@ Darkstares

Yes and that has nothing to do with the number of players(strangers) online. I was talking about friends.
When most of your friends are playing on a certain platform, that and the games themselves are what ultimately push its value further than other platforms.
If someone buys an Xbox One because all their friends are on it, then I totally respect that.
And by unique experience I meant it's not the same old Windows experience that I've used for 20 years. Each console is a unique experience.

PC fans seem to care more about console graphics than console gamers sometimes.
Don't get me wrong. Console gamers DO care about graphics, but only to a certain extent.
Gameplay, story and art style usually take priority (depending on the game and not necessarily in that order).
The only time technical graphics take priority over everything else is during a console war or if you're a PC supremacists with nothing better to do. Yes, fanboys can be dumb.

""That is insecurity because they have to try and rub it in and argue""
This is exactly what PC fanboys do all the time.

""How many times do we see Uncharted being mentioned and how it is only possible on the PS3""
Probably twice like 4 years ago because it's obviously exclusive and not nearly as many times as I've heard PC fans say that about games with a higher number of online players(ex: BF3) or how every single game would look better on PC or how a 6 year old game looked better than a new game running at anything lower than 1080@60.

""So why is that any different when PC gamers come in...""
Because comparing consoles to PC is incredibly redundant. And you wanna call us insecure? Let's not be hypocrites.
It's called a CONSOLE war for a reason and has been around since the SNES vs Genesis days. YES PCs have always been more powerful. EVERYONE knows that. You think this is news to us? I've been playing games for 25 years and you think I'm gonna start caring about that now? It's a choice.
""Not as much as the bashing that's been going on because the XB1 doesn't have as good of a frame rate or resolution.""
You're gonna lie to my face and tell me that PC elites don't attack any and all consoles, regardless of power? Xbox and PlayStation games have always been scrutinized. Don't act like you're coming to the rescue of the weaker consoles when PC fans bash those as well.

""In fact PC gamers put console fanboys in check...""
...PC gamers suffer from a superiority complex and that is why they HATE when console gamers are excited about a console game that looks really good.

So what you're basically saying is: "Hey you guys are not allowed to get excited about a good looking game or eve argue about frame-rate and resolution, that's our job to be d*cks". Got ya.

"NO UC,TLOU,GOW3,Ressitance so yea no..."

PS3 emulation on PC is here:
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Checkmate!

Lol all I saw were little cheap games running nothing of the kind of games I said.Nice try though.

@jbsleek

WHAT?! 0_0
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@JBSleek

Emulating ps3 games while the system and the games are still available for sale is piracy, and you wonder why devs skip/delay their games on PC..

Plus that emulator doesn't even work properly, at least not yet, and you can't use psn with it meaning you lost the online features/modes and split screen/local play, and possibly the access to DLC/game patches.

All in all emulating a console on PC will never feel as normal/natural as playing that console, plus it isn't even legal, if everybody emulated their games on PC instead of buying them legitimately who's gonna support the devs ?

Yes people will use that as an argument and it doesn't matter if you like it or not it is a valid argument.

If a gamers favourite games are on a specific platform and that is what is most important to them then of course that will be the reason they give and why shouldn't they, especially when some pc elitist is trying to rub their faces in specifics that make a pc better.

well guess what, what he said holds merit

Checkmate because of emulation? This is why I consider PC gamers scum.

I remember when the Wii U was announced PC gamers where cheering because it was "weak" meaning easy emulation so it meant dolphin-U coming to a PC near you! lol

What a bunch of pirating pricks.

Only good pc Exlusive 2014 is Spin Tyres,its indie game but still very good game.Rest of the games I play mostly with consoles.

Because they are too busy enjoying their games so they don't have time to go on the internet to say they have the best games.

@HaydoThePotato

Your sweeping statements are untrue and misguided. I'm a 37 year old with a good job and a decent disposable income. I don't need a parent to buy my hardware, I'm a parent myself, and I can afford my own hardware well enough.

I don't need to upgrade to play the latest games that came out, the last upgrade I made was a GTX 670 which I bought in January last year for 180 odd quid, I sold the graphics card I had for 100 pounds and so it only cost me £80 in the end.

The last upgrade I had before that was the processor and the motherboard, it barely cost me anything once I had sold the parts I replaced them with.

I can play most games that come out at near to maximum settings, and in worse cases they still perform much better than on current consoles.

Pc gaming is cost effective, it's not expensive and these lies that get told by people such as yourself are laughable.

Please, try not to spread crap around, it makes you look bad.

God mars, so you mean to tell me that the more complex games get the most they need patching? What a shocker. Lol devs aren't perfect and I would much prefer them to make the most out of the hardware and actually support their game with fast fixes than to not even try.

It's pretty obvious that more resources lead to even more complex programming and designing but that is why patches exist.