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Microsoft Hiring “Super Creator” To Develop The Next Xbox Hardware; Aims to Improve Game Dev Tools

Microsoft just launched the Xbox One a few months ago, but the company is already looking at the future.

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Concertoine4313d ago

I hope MS makes some profit this gen. They're working hard to turn it around. I do think with the smaller loss on hardware they have a better chance to do so even if it is less popular than 360.

I should point out that this isn't definitive proof they do plan to make another xbox, Sega actually had a dreamcast successor at least in the conceptual stage before they pulled the plug.

MrSwankSinatra4312d ago

The xbox consoles historically have never been profitable for microsoft, microsoft makes their money back on xbox live subscriptions and software sales.

Theyellowflash304312d ago

Microsoft "leads you to believe" they make back their money on Xbox Live Subscriptions and software sales.

But the reality is they don't make anything, they actually loose money, then hide it in Android Patent royalties.
http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

This was revealed by a real Microsoft analyst Rick Sherlund

Ezz20134312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

@theyellowflash30

hmmm,didn't know that

MultiConsoleGamer4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

"The xbox consoles historically have never been profitable for microsoft."

Wrong.

http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...

http://www.extremetech.com/...

zeuanimals4312d ago

That's almost all consoles, though, not just MS's. Software sales have always made the bulk of the money for consoles while console sales are just the catalyst for the software.

MS also made money from ads on the 360.

kickerz4312d ago

Maybe the hardware they're talking about is VR or something like that. Just a thought

BitbyDeath4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

@McG, you must have missed Theyellowflash30's post.
Those links you posted are not just Xbox but the entire division which includes the android patents mentioned above.

rawz4312d ago

@MultiConsoleGamer

"The xbox consoles historically have never been profitable for microsoft."

Right. If you finish reading his message, he clearly meant xbox 360 _hardware_ hasn't been profitable. The money comes from the software sales and live subscriptions.

jcnba284312d ago

Neither have sony consoles, Nintendo have always made a profit on their hardware.

shaenoide4312d ago

they have never made money with the xbox brand. Even with games or live subs. They hide this fact by merging the xbox brand with more lucrative activities (Entertainment & Devices).

shaenoide4312d ago

1.1.4

And wrong...

C'mon First line.

"The Entertainment and Devices Division of Microsoft, which includes the Xbox 360, PC games, and Windows Phone, took in a profit of $32 million on top of revenues of $1.49 billion"

The Entertainment and Devices Division is not the xbox only. THey merged the xbox brand here because it was doing poorly. The money comes from the android royalties.

creeping judas4312d ago

@yellowflash

So when does working for another company make you an employee of MS. This is from the story you posted.

"Microsoft is hiding billions in losses from its Xbox gaming business, according to Nomura analyst Rick Sherlund."

Where does it say that Rick Sherlund is a MS analyst? Can you please let me know?

It's always awesome how you guys twists things to fit into your agenda!

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Mr Pumblechook4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

I get the impression that Microsoft will want to end this lost generation and will be looking to release the Xbone Two sooner rather than later.

Tito084312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

@alexkoepp- Cool story, want a cookie?

Arkardo4312d ago

@alexkoepp

Wow man breath for God's sake!

You know there is nothing left here for you, you clearly are the most biased chap around here, even Trufan1 vows on your sight.

Trying to sound like a pro just leaves you more in shame, we normal people are not on your league so you will always know more than us we get it.

Keep playing Halo till end of times and let gamers enjoy new games ahead.

Revengeance4312d ago

@alexkoepp

Lol. Wow you're a bona-fide Xbox drone. Micro$oft brainwashed you good. Let me know when you come back to reality where Xbox will NEVER be as good as PlayStation, and that's a FACT! Dealwithit :)

UltraNova4312d ago

After reading Alex's biography especially this

"Microsoft makes amazing stuff. I was a PlayStation guy, until the day I played Halo. The day I touched that at a friends house, well, I went out immediately bought an Xbox, and never again touched my PS2. Halo occupied me (and all gamers) for the next year. LAN gaming, oh my, greatest console experience ever. After that I was luck enough to be a beta tester for Xbox Live, first dibs on gamertag, F yeah!"

I was like what the hell I'm I doing with this piece oh shit..._looks at the ps4 and slightly dusty ps3 underneath it_

Not really.

OT: Lets hope they wont abandon ship, again, just like they did with the first xbox and the second (for the last couple years) and leave all those XB1 owners left hanging...

Who I'm I to say history does not repeat its self?

Aloren4312d ago

I doubt MS is losing any money on 360 hardware nowadays; considering the cheapest is still about 200 bucks, there hasn't been any significant price cut in years. I bought mine in 2008 for the same price... I don't think I've ever seen any 9 years old console that expensive.

coolbeans4312d ago

Sure, that was the case in the past.

But reports I've seen suggest both MS and Sony are selling their consoles at a profit right out the gate.

http://venturebeat.com/2013...

Sitdown4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

@theyellowflash
That article was pure speculation... And what makes him a real Microsoft analyst? Here, let's do since basic math.. According to this link http://www.gameinformer.com... Microsoft had 46 million subscribers in 2013. Let's say only half (23 million) paid for gold, and let's make the funny assumption that on average they pay below retail price(which is $60, but let's go $40. If you do the math, in one year alone, Xbox live should bring in a year over $500 million. I didn't use $920 million, cause I don't know the operational cost of live. If Xbox was really bleeding that heavily, I think investors would have been had their day... As it's been common knowledge regarding android royalties. But then again, my thinking appears too simple... So it's probably wrong.

@coolbeans
Exactly

Concertoine4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

Wow, you think i don't know that? That doesnt change the fact that the smaller hardware loss means it'll be easier to make their money back and even start profitting on the hardware units sold. It'll be easier to make back on a 50 dollar loss than a 200 one.

Cant believe everyone assumed i didn't know the basics.

kreate4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

"I hope MS makes some profit this gen"

Microsoft always profits. period.
so don't worry.

*we also know there would be another generation after this generation, whose the one who said this gen will be the last?

Gamer6664312d ago

Nobody makes significant money on hardware.

Money is made on tied services and software always.

hkgamer4312d ago

disagree.

1st xbox wasnt succesful in turning profits but it was more of an investment into the industry.

360 was profitable. exclude the XBL and it was still profitable. you really believe that the amount of 360 they sold with almost every single one making profit did not cover R&D? I highly doubt that.

also cnsoles make money from game sales. do we need to include that as console making money? 360 made tons of money from software sales, almost every multiplat sold more on 360 and the exclusives made crazy numbers.

Pro Racer4312d ago

I bet it's to develop Kinect 3.0

pixelsword4312d ago

Wheeze, you know when the XboX one is doing bad when Microsoft's talking up the next console more then their current one.

EveryPlatformGamer4312d ago

IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE GOING TO COPY SONY YET AGAIN!!! LMAO!! seriously this company has no direction whatsoever they have back peddled on EVERYTHING and have just copied Sony and its getting embarrassing! crazy how a company with so much money hasn't got a single clue!

They saw how Sony nailed everything with mark cerny at the helm and now are going to copy even that aspect of the Playstation division.

This is getting more and more pathetic day by day.

DeadManMMX4312d ago

The number one reason the xbox 360 was not profitable was all the money they spend making up for the RROD. All that money spent on exchanges techs to fix the systems, postage, etc. If they can avoid that kind of pitfall this time it will be profitable.

ma1asiah4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

No matter how they make their money, they are not the company as a whole (not just games division) that reported a billion dollar plus debt. Hate on MS all you like, the company is still very profitable where as, its closest competitor whom maybe winning in console sales the globe over, but at the end of the day will it really be enough to get them out of so much friggen debt.

In fact how many consoles would a company need to sell to recoup that kind of deficit.

Haters gonna hate no matter what

bigbic4312d ago

The thing Microsoft needed to improve on was reliability of their hardware, it got taken care of with the X1. Their next console they need a good, consumer friendly strategy at the console reveal to develop consumer trust from the get go. They obviously know this already.

Now Sony needs to not get overly confident about the success they have had, and keep improving their console/business.

It should be an interesting battle between the two going forward.

ma1asiah4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

looks up and notices peeps be hitting that disagree without doing their homework

http://www.techspot.com/new...

http://abcnews.go.com/Busin...

Though to be fair they have made up for a world record reported loss in 2012

http://www.dailytech.com/So...

ArmrdChaos4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

Pretty amusing read LonDonE. MS copying everything Sony does...really. Tell me this...

Why does the PS4 have a traditional CPU in it instead of the ALL POWERFUL CELL?

Why was their console cheaper this time?

Why did they release their console sooner this time?

Why is their console easier to develop for this time?

I could keep going...all the things MS established last gen. It's funny how that works.

pyramidshead4312d ago

Damn so glad Alex got marked for trolling for that paragraph of made up nonsense. Such hot hot nonsense from that user. Quite the Microsoft apologist, taking it to new levels.

OT: Is this MS finally admitting they ballsed up their specs? I think it is. Those bottlenecks will be with them this entire gen. A damned shame I bet. Feel sorry for Phil Spencer having to keep a straight face as he's lumped with a tainted product from clouded product vision from people who've all up and left the Xbox team.

It better bring its A game though as you know full well Cerny already has the PS5 planned out

gamerhecz4312d ago

alright thats why sony has lost millions of dollars as well because of their gaming franchise?

UltraNova4312d ago

@pyramidshead

"It better bring its A game though as you know full well Cerny already has the PS5 planned out"

What?

Where did you hear that? Dont keep these things to yourself man!

Link/s please!

Giul_Xainx4311d ago

News headlines like this scares gamers.

And fanboys love seeing news like this.

They better take that article down before people get the wrong idea.

They are talking about the future but.... this headline.... doesn't a very good image make.

Patrick_pk444311d ago

Incorrect, the Xbox division is not profitable, and there are many executives from the company who would rather sell the division off.

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Godmars2904312d ago

The Dreamcast was a successor system to the Saturn, which itself was pretty much dumped on the market.

And its not going to be a good thing in general if there's an XB2 out in 3-5 years. At the very least its going to lead to confusing the market, especially when no one has really shown what the current consoles can do yet talk about them as if they're under-powered.

Darkstares4312d ago

Most consoles have a shelf life of 5-6 years. Last generation was an anomaly. The first XBox was only out for 4 years and Microsoft managed to do very well with the XBox 360. They dumped it because it was bleeding them money and the PS2 was already dominating the market. They also couldn't get as much game support as Sony at the time.

That's not to suggest coming out with a new Xbox is a good idea in 3 years. Once the system is 5 years old or older it's totally acceptable to have new hardware come out and Nintendo has already confused the market with the Wii U.

loulou4312d ago

Agreed godmars... Except the 360 launched 4 years after the original Xbox and that did not confuse the market.

Try again.

On topic, this will be a short gen for Microsoft. I expect a new Xbox in 2017.... Unless they really turn things around.

Now they have put the Xbox division into the OS division, all losses for this gen, and costs for next gen are already covered

ma1asiah4312d ago

People are reading far to much into this, SONY started RnD for what was to become the PS4 2 years into the PS3's life cycle and yet the PS3 is going on 8 years and counting.

If you don't believe me go google it Mark Cerny was quite adament about when the PS4 development or RnD started.

You also have to take into account that the Xbox One design was more or less driven by Don Mattrick at the helm. Phil Spencer can't do much hardware wise so ensuring that they don't repeat the same fate next gen is smart thinking.

Funantic14312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

We all know that this gen of consoles won't last as long as before. The next Xbox will be out in about 5 years. That'll force Sony to come out with a console too. I think next time MS will invest heavily in hardware. They learned many things this time and got rid of the dead weight like Don Mattrick and hired the right people. Sony has learned a few things too like security issues and server problems. Both companies have had trial and error. I hope both companies give us more powerful consoles. Both are underpowered. Devs were asking for 16GB before they released. They both came up short.

rawz4312d ago

Buy a PC if you want more powerful gaming device. It's really not the devs that whine about 'underpowered console', it's you and the master race. Instead, devs are happy to get rid of PS3 & the 360.

Dannylew4312d ago

Microsoft work hard only to make huge numbers for investors.. but definitely a company without a soul... without a direction...

next xbox hardware cost 800$ and have a snapdragon 850 for cpu and 32 gb lpddr2...

Nanux4312d ago

MS has interesting luck. Look at windows 95 be, 98 nice, Me be, XP nice, Vista be, 7 nice, 8 be. xbox be, xbox 360 nice, xbox one be. But it mite change look at surface 1 be, 2 be, 3 nice. They hapen to be ahead of time, but alone and misunderstood.

CaptainObvious8784312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

I'm very surprised shareholders have great lighted another xbox after ms fumbled badly out of the gate with the xbone.

I mean, how many millions have been wasted on kinect 2.0 R&D alone for them to unbox it half a year later?

What about the millions spent of the Titanfall bundle advertising which still lost to the PS4 in the NPD report?

If they really are making another console, hopefully this time they will actually focus on games and specs this time and not even consider DRM.

k3rn3ll4312d ago

So when a public company wants to make a new product they dont have to ask permission from shareholders. Alls the shareholders can do is complain to board members. The board only has any actual power. But even then the CEO has more power than any board member. In order for the board to trump the CEO, they would have to vote on replacing the CEO with someone of there choosing and have a majority vote. Seeing as Nadella was just put in office a couple months ago, and came in with the mindset of keeping xbox alive because it was crucial to the companies plan, I think the board is pro xbox ATM despite the rumors. The only real shareholders that have publicly said to get rid of xbox, is a trust that just recently (within a couple years) bought a LARGE amount of shares. So they are new to the company and even though they bought Alot of shares they dont have alot of power. The MS plan is still to gain a large foothold in consumer's home and Xbox is crucial tonight considering how everyone is moving more away from using PCs as a homes main internet access. That is where the cloud comes into play as they push more into a interconnectivity of all of your devices under one ecosystem.

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Magicite4312d ago

''lesson learned'', but then again do You think Sony isnt preparing for PS5?

Kidmyst4312d ago

This is quite early to look at a new console development. Thinking of Sega's rushing of the Dreamcast after the Saturn was still new.

hkgamer4312d ago

they definitely going to make profit this gen.

R&D couldn't have cost them too much, consoles making profit already, sales are healthy and should easily go over 30million. XBL should keep revenue up.

Concertoine4312d ago

Thats what i was trying to say, the XB1 has more potential than either of its predecessors to make money. It'll probably sell 40 million to 60 million depending on how long this gen is.

Its coming off the heels of a popular system and isnt being sold at a ridiculous loss.

wynams4312d ago

I hope they lose their arse on the X1 tbh, prolly won't happen cuz #teamDorito in the US of A but MS deserves it for the crapola they continue to pull (reverse 2013 E3, reneg on DevKit promises, etc etc etc etc)

k3rn3ll4312d ago

Damn people really do beleive everything they read on here. Even when the statements are proved by another more trusted site to be wrong. You kids these days. Please stop with ur anger and hatred. It makes you look childish

kenshiro1004312d ago

alex, is that supposed to be English? Because none of what you said made any logical sense.

And McG, you need to do a little something called reading comprehension instead of blindly rushing to defend Microsoft, as usual.

Gantrfaxx4312d ago

I hope MS doesn't announce new console in two years if X One proves to be a failure.

TBONEJF4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

Why do u even care bout a company gaining profit for? When we buy their consoles it goes to their pockets. I'd rather be worrying bout more new powerful graphics and better games for this generation and next. you do realize M$ is a billion dollar company. At lease SONY listen to the DEV and makes a processor that everyone can understand and program great games this gen

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Ezz20134313d ago (Edited 4313d ago )

Super Creator ??

Abriael4313d ago

That's how they call it. Basically someone at the very top of the design food chain.

Ezz20134313d ago (Edited 4313d ago )

yeah, it seem that way
but still the name is really silly unless hmmm....can he fly ?!

Kingthrash3604312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

Agreed...super creator ...o.O...hell lets call the next Xbox 'super Xbox' ...the seed of the super creator.

My question is
why so soon?
Why announce it?
.....And Why not call him super-mega-ultra-typhoon-sport scar-leglock-explosion creator?

ThanatosDMC4312d ago

Maybe drop Xbox One like the original xbox and come out with Xbox 1080?

Yeah, it is weird that they would even announce it.

ravinash4312d ago

"why so soon"?

Because there will be 5 years worth of research, design and management.

The things they will need to do is:
1. Review everything that happened in Xbox this and previous gens.
2. Review everything that happen to all the other consoles.
3. Look at the current tech out there, history and trends.
4. Look at what tech is coming out in the years to come.
5. Settle of a format of how the games will be stored (On line, disk or what ever).
6. Get the right processor.
7. get the right graphics card.
8. design a dedicated system to get the most out of the CPU and graphics card.
9. incorporate any extra peripherals the company wants to push.
10. keep an eye on the price of research, production and the final product.
11. try and keep a head of the curve with the tech so it's powerful but at a good price.
12. Make sure you end up with a better product than the other consoles.

Someone would be very busy in the next 5 years!

Kemo_Spear4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

@ ravinash ,
Then please explain what the XB1 devs were doing for the past 5 years. Because it is obvious that they weren't doing any of those things you mentioned.
lol j/k

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Ballsack4313d ago

Sony caught Ms soo off guard with the ps4 reveal they have been back peddling ever since... Let's be real about it.

Everything Ms has done since (reversals, games with xbl, apps no longer behind a paywall)is an attempt to match sony which is great because it benefits us, but unfortunately hardware is hardware an Ms are stuck with the inferior specs that no amount of buzzwords like 'cloud and dx12' will change.

Ms will not want to be caught out again specs wise so it's good they are planning from now

Kudos ms

DLConspiracy4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

If you read the article all companies right now are looking at the next console. They would be completely stupid not to. Super Creator is a term? I have no clue.

I don't know what you are going on about. When you spend this kind of money to mass produce hardware you take your time and research the crap out of it and get well qualified people on board.. No reason to turn this into something its not by making a lot of assumptions. Perhaps they are just looking for a go getter?

MightyNoX4312d ago

Buzz word. They like using baby terms to simplify things.

Ballsack4312d ago

But that's the problem they not only use buzzwords but they also make ridiculous statements to save face and stop their fanboys from slitting their wrists

We all know dx12 will primarily boost PC Ms tried to hype soo much for Xbox one they had to recently simmer expectations because they know it will look worse for them in the long run

The whole cloud talk with 'will make the Xbox one ten times more powerful' has got to be my favourite though..

You just never know what to believe with Ms.. How many contridictions have we had from them so far this gen and this gen us only eight months old..

That has what has stopped me from picking one up (pun intended). The wii u looks more tempting right now.. But that could change with sunset overdrive my money's ready just stop the crap Ms and focus on the games

sAVAge_bEaST4312d ago

Yes, as in Superior to God,- Mind$et of M$.

don't believe me? that's oK. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bill+g...

Jdoki4312d ago

That would be amazing.

I can only imagine what Kraziness he would conjure up with the backing of MS billions.

Kinda reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where Homer designs the ultimate car.

kratoz12094312d ago

It must be the villain on lbp 2 or perhaps sackboy he is always creating new ideas

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LGM3134313d ago

Maybe they will release another xbox in 5 years.

KRUSSIDULL4312d ago

It's possible with the x86 architecture it's possible that both Xbox One and PS4 will see their successors sooner rather than later and still have software support because of the unified architecture. This is taking for granted that next gen consoles will still use x86 architecture.

RichardDawkins4312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

Sony has Microsoft going back to the drawing board and it hasn't even been a year.

cl19834312d ago

Both Sony and Microsoft have already started working on their next gen systems. They always start looking at the future once they get their new systems out. This has nothing to do with Microsoft being scared.

Kingthrash3604312d ago (Edited 4312d ago )

My question is then why mention it. They might not be scared of Sony but they are scared of losing money. This Imo, is ms trying to get buyers to buy the Xbox brand...just like the cloud and dx12 talk. It's just to give their loyalists something to brag about and get some kind of hype around the Xbox brand. A lot has failed with the x1.... TV, kinect, specs, DRM, now the unpacked x1 still hasn't helped much. I'm sure they are in a scramble and at a loss of what to do next. I start to feel bad for ms...until I remember the greed and anticonsumerism they displayed and the cockyness they had. The lies..the kinect made to watch us and sell the information to other companies for ad revenue... The no trade ins..the always online. I'm happy they 180ed MOST of this but I won't forget the line they crossed so casually.
I hope this serves as a lesson to ALL gaming companies... Don't step on gamers toes....we will END YOU.
Rant done...mabad.

Kemo_Spear4312d ago

@ Kingthrash360,
It is rather a foolish PR stunt when you think about it.
The XB1 is doing bad in sales already, So, why hamper the sales even more by announcing that they are already working on a new one (even though both Sony and MS started working on them quite a while ago)? Consumers who have not bought an XB1 and see a story like this will make them think "Why should I get an XB1 when they might be coming out with a new one? Ill wait."

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio19h ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing17h ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9218h ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit18h ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing17h ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9215h ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay2d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn23d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn22d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown2d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay2d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay2d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac2d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger3d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30003d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde3d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde2d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Agent754d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_1d 21h ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.