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What's Wrong with PlayStation Plus?

Sony's changes to the popular service have been questioned and antagonized, the crew of Beyond speculates on why.

randomass1714328d ago

Is there something wrong? o.o I hadn't noticed there was, not on my PS3 anyway.

Majin-vegeta4328d ago

Basically people are b*tching about the games being given on PS4. Lol were people expecting AAA games right off the back??We probably wont see our first AAA game for PS+ until towards the end of the year.

Tl;DR:Entitled brats are crying.

randomass1714328d ago

PS4's library is a lot younger. You couldn't expect those large scale games to be free right off the bat. Also the games are free! Nothing to complain about in that regard.

Fizzgig4328d ago

Thanks for the TL:DR summary, those 3 lines were going to take too long to get through.

Darkstares4328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

The show was about the randomness of free games on Plus and whether to hold out or not to wait for the game to be free.

This is one of the side effects of Plus, now consumers are wary to buy the games or not thinking they will come out for free eventually. I didn't hear anything about the games not being AAA on the Ps4.

Chris_GTR14328d ago

My complaint about PS+ is the game selection. For example 2 on ps4 and 2 on ps3 is nice but its lame when they give some crappy ass games like towerfal. Seriously a local coop game that looks like a iPad game that's sold for 1$ is really lame.

I'm not just here to bitch here's my solution if anyone remembers back when psn got hacked they decided to compensate us by giving us 5 free games and of those games we could only choose 2. This is such a badass idea I dunno why they don't do that now. Why not give us 4 free games a month per console and we choose the 2 we want. Its a win win.

Prime1574328d ago

Tower fall has been a ton of fun.

Didn't your teachers tell you not to judge a book by its cover? Don't judge an indie by its graphics, you might miss out on fun gameplay.

LOGICWINS4328d ago

^^ I downloaded Strider last night and was surprised by how much fun it was. Didn't download Towerfall as it didn't seem like my type of game. Might downloaded it to see if its for me.

Its not a graphics issue for me. It just seems like one of those games where u need three other friends playing locally to enjoy it.

poor_cus_of_games4328d ago

Absolutely right. Some people really are entitled brats.

HonestDragon4328d ago

Seriously? That's all that people are complaining about? How juvenile.

ocelot074328d ago

But I paid £35 for my 12 months PS+. Even though am also getting 2 Vita titles and 2 PS3 title I demand I get £30+ games every month for my PS+.

Its the same thing on XB1. People bitching about GWG. Some are crying because they don't want indie games they want AAA titles.

kreate4328d ago

I think ppl should complain anyway.
On ps4,x1, and wii-u.

Complain and complain and let ur complaints be known so maybe the companies will give in and give us somethimg free.

If that free product is not good enough, keep complaining. Maybe they will give u something better for free next time.

MeliMel4328d ago

True
@random, I dont know what people were expecting. I mean its not even been a y4. And honestly the games available are enough to hold true gamers over til the next batch of great titles.

Bubble for well said.

Irishguy954328d ago

Its been crappy the last few months but eh...last year makes up for any crappiness it may ever have

assdan4328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

Yeah, I don't know what people want. I'm not expecting AAA games on my ps4 for free until this fall. You can't just give away huge releases for free right off the bat. Indies are a great idea, and I've been very happy with what I've been getting.
Also, not to mention that I'm getting free crap for my ps3 and vita as well.

zpoc4327d ago

no, this is about the changes made to the service recently, as stated in the headline.

before, you had access to a large collection of games, available to download at all times. now, you have to grab the games the month they're made available - after that, they're swapped out for new games. doesn't bother me, personally, but some people don't like it, i guess.

Giul_Xainx4327d ago

That's right. Little kids want those free games now. Watch as the gaming industry turns into a service jnstead of physical media.

Syntax-Error4327d ago

PS4 version of PS+ is not that great

Flutterby4327d ago

I am loving my free ps4 games , I am really enjoying doki doki , strider and tower fall, I enjoyed stick it to the man I enjoyed octodad , I myself can't see any reason to complain , I myself would be happy if it only ever was indie games, but then again I'm not an entitled brat that thinks they deserve massive budget games for free.

My psn plus sub has already paid for itself and I only just re subbed.

Dirtnapstor4327d ago

Watch the videocast...the crux issue related to the title of this article is that people buy a game and then it is issued for free through Plus. Other than that, the videocast is simply about how good certain games are.

Typical N4G readers, nobody clicks and reads/listens.

SonyWarrior4327d ago

easy question.. Answer: nothing.

N4Flamers4327d ago

So many comments and only two of you actually watched the video. They're speaking about people holding off on buying games because they might be free on ps plus. It has nothing to do with wanting aaa blockbusters or being entitled.

Giul_Xainx4326d ago

The real reason behind people not buying the games and waiting is because the amount of time gamers are willing to patiently wait is just about 5 to 6 months for it to come out on plus. I think it should be a time limit before they release them for free on plus. Most of the indie titles get put on the ps plus free game lineup within 5 months of release.

It is not a bad thing, but it needs to find a better balance for indie titles. I bought ibb and obb when it launched. But then just two months later it comes out for free.

Why did I even buy it? I wanted something new. So now I hold off on buying a lot of titles for this reason. But sooner or later we will be paying for a service just to play games at a monthly cost.

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admiralvic4328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

"Is there something wrong?"

No matter what you do, you're bound to have people that feel differently. Like some people really enjoyed the evergreen system and loved the idea of the IGC, where as other people love getting all the games on day 1 without having to think about it.

With that being said, I certainly have my complaints with PlayStation Plus, but at the same time most of them are unique to me and in the end I only need to save $35 dollars to break even, which is incredibly easy given Plus offers approximately 72 titles a year.

In the end, I think both sides really need to look at these things rationally. Like just because I say something negative about the program doesn't mean I hate it / Sony and plan on trading my PS4 for an Xbox One and just because the program works in your favor doesn't mean someone has an invalid complaint either. I know this has very little to do with your post, but I still feel it needs to be said.

@ Majin-Vegeta

"Basically people are b*tching about the games being given on PS4. Lol were people expecting AAA games right off the back??"

There are more complaints and many of them are more valid that that. Some of those include too many fighting games (Plus should cater to everyone, but it's hard to argue that the fighting genre is under represented), the past couple of months have been weak when compared to previous months, people preferring the old IGC style and various single user complaints.

In the end, this IS a paid service and the free games (save the PS4) are a big part of the service for most people, so I don't think its fair to say they're "entitled brats." However, I do agree the people who're demanding retail games are out of line, since we're lucky to get PS4 games and just because something is released physically doesn't mean it's great or that digital games are automatically awful and vice versa.

URNightmare4328d ago

They ARE very annoying entitled brats! Maybe they don't know how it is that the PS+ deals with developers/publishers work or something but it is very annoying to see these ppl complain all the time about the free games being offered on PS4.

ramiuk14328d ago

i paid £24 for a years psn.
since start i have had all the games given on ps4 and also on ps3 so already have moneies worth.

but on ps4 i got strider,reshogun,dont starve which i was wanting to buy anyway so i have them now included in my sub.
which has almost paid for itsself on ps4 alone.

what do people expect SS and AC4 lol.
xmas i expect some full games,until then i happy with indies

Mega244328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

There's a difference of complaining and being an entitled prick, this service, which is now needed to play online for ps4, is offering free games across 3 different platforms, they are basically giving away 7 titles each month, but entitled pricks only see the indies offered on the PS4. They expect "AAA"'s to be offered when the console is still new.

I bought 1 year of PS+ at the ps4 launch for $30, the amount of value I've gotten from that $30 is amazing. I'm very happy with my Vita and PS4, and sad that I sold my ps3. I never knew ps+ had this much value, would have gotten ps+ earlier.

Legacy2124328d ago

First world problems: complaining about free stuff

randomass1714327d ago

lol The joys of being a gamer on the internet and what you get to witness. :P

dumahim4328d ago

Try watching the video.

Someone posed the question about deciding not to buy an indie game right at launch because it might come on PS+ soon and how that might be hurting sales since some people are starting to feel burned by buying a game for $15 only to have it added to Plus a month or two later for free.

pompous4328d ago

I think it's silly that people feel burned when they buy something to only see LATER on that it is cheaper or free. That sounds like spoiled to me. Are these same people going to feel burned when the go purchase a car to then later feel burned when the car goes on sale a few months later to clear stock for the newer models? That's the same fucking thing and if they don't feel that way then or with other products then this hypocrisy is vexing. But as you see on the internet, gamers are very childish and feel entitled. This generation of gamers never heard the word no or have been giving everything by their parents just so they'd shut up as the parents don't want to deal with it has created a bigger problem beyond gaming, but in gaming we get a taste of this problem.

fr0sty4328d ago

What wrong with this author's English skills?

Deadlead4327d ago

Agreed nothing is wrong with plus, expect to see major title become available once the ps4 library expands. In regards to the issue in the video, it's tough to balance. Obviously you don't wanna buy something that will be free soon, but if you list the dates that games become free you might jeopardize sales. Maybe keeping a list documenting upcoming titles just a month or two in advance, this might also lead to additional ps plus sign ups as said in the vid.

kamakaz3md4327d ago

nothing is wrong, people are just retards... whats wrong with xbox live?

Eejanaika4327d ago

I dont see anything wrong with it.
even if their is
theirs always the choice of being optional
when it comes to purchasing it.

wastedcells4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

Omg people complain about everything. Even free stuff. Between plus and now postedbygamers.com hitting beta I am never buying a $65-$70 dollar game again. Unless it's a major must play it day one game.

showtimefolks4327d ago

its an awesome service just that next gen consoles don't have their full lineups so we can not expect huge AAA games to be free

for a service you can use on Vit,ps3 and ps4 for one price isn't a bad deal IMO

raymantalk14327d ago

what is wrong is that it is not on Xbox1 :)

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XiYakushijuAkeginuXi4328d ago

More like wth has happened to gaming journalism

DigitalRaptor4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

You'd think that such a massive outlet like IGN would have more integrity and common sense than to cause stupid discussions like this rather than let the people figure it out for themselves.

IGN is notorious for these stupid rhetorical questions leading into discussions that tell us everything we already knew.

The PS4's library is still young. Why do so-called "professionals" need to act like there is something wrong with that? Stupid, lazy, inflammatory titles to redundant articles need to disappear.

KinjoTakemura4328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

This new generation of gamers are a bunch of whiny bastards. How can any one complain about games being offered for free? How can someone complaining about something being offered as a perk? How can you even justify complaining about something you don't have any right to have in the first place? Come on!!!

GundalfDeGrej4328d ago

The thing is that some people don't consider things you pay a monthly fee for as being free. You can argue that it's a very good deal or whatever but that's highly individual.

I personally don't really play a lot of the ps+ games offered. Not because the games are bad or anything. I just don't have the time. That means when I pay for ps+ I do it to play online which is something that I think should be free in the first place.

If I could pay less by not being given "free" games every month then I would. But I can't. That's a problem with ps+ right there.

InTheZoneAC4327d ago

you do know ps+ was first around for ps3 right...and the online play is free on that...

GundalfDeGrej4327d ago

I'm talking about the PS4 but yes, the best way of doing this would be to make it just like it was before. People who want the "free" games and could just pay for the damn thing and people like me who just want to play their games could be left alone.

Darkstares4328d ago

The answer is easy, Plus isn't a free service so in theory those games and perks are not free. The only thing I can complain about are the selection of games they offer. They are mostly either older titles or games we wouldn't really buy. Sometimes you get those that don't fit that category like Resogun. Even then I still think Plus offers great value.

LOGICWINS4328d ago

I think its a fantastic value. I paid $40 for Plus so I already got my moneys worth with Resogun, Outlast, and Strider...not to mention the ten or so games I have to play for when I get my Vita later this year.

Hopefully Sony brings back the OLED screen in a revision of some sort because I prefer that one over the LCD screen after seeing both up close.

RIP_Cell4328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

^^^ great that you see the value in these games, some don't, the point is that whether you see the value in these games or not it costs you the same $50 a year. for those that buy games new or rather play these games on other platforms PS+ is worth a lot less

MasterCornholio4328d ago

What do you expect this early in the generation?

A ton of free AAA games?

badboyz094328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

IGN set this up. They know dang well know one writes them.

Salooh4328d ago

People need to play the new ps+ game . Not strider, the other one. Forgot it's name XD. But it's fun as hell !!!! I didn't have that much fun even in GTA ! Funny , challenging and fun.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA11d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY11d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay11d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos11d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7211d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY11d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator11d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum11d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z11d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad12d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga12d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot11d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose12d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE12d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername11d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy12d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde12d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8611d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8611d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole12d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300012d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot12d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle12d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7712d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments