Cliff Bleszinski Announces Return to Video Game Development

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PunisherRevenge4346d ago

Wait....When did he retire? I thought he had a project he was working on?

Palitera4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

I guess no one gived a F when he announced he was finally stopping to make bro shooters.

Well, I know I didn't. Absolutely nothing coming from him interests me. I mean, I enjoyed on UT and Jazz Jackrabbit, but that was a long time ago and he wasn't such an idiot back then...

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FriedGoat4346d ago

He probably was an idiot, just game developers didn't use to speak out back in the 90's.

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Bimkoblerutso4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

I don't necessarily hate the games the guy works on, but I think that he is given a ridiculous amount of personal credit when it should really go to the ENTIRE TEAM HE WORKS WITH.

He really appeals to the "bro" crowd, though, so he is always the face of whatever game he works on.

Anyway, glad to hear he's making games again, I suppose, but he and all his fanclub of journalists just need to STFU.

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ZodTheRipper4346d ago

This guy is narcissm in person, I couldn't care less and I wouldn't want to work with him.

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saladthieves4346d ago

Well, that didn't take him long now, did it?

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kreate4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

I dont understand why the guy would retire in the first place.

Even if u decide to take a break, why announce it as a 'retire'?

Or announce anything at all?

Anyways bulletstorm 2 inc?

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bmf73644346d ago

I thought he was working on an arena shooter.

DragonKnight4346d ago

"Cliff Bleszinski Announces Return to Video Game Development."

I can't be the only one who thought...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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sinspirit4346d ago

Idk. I didn't particularly like GeOW but the first one was nice because it was a first real next-gen cover system gritty shooter. The next ones got kind of stale though, for me anyways.

I'm glad he took some time off though instead of trying to push out more of the same again and again every year or so. Hopefully he has some ideas and projects in mind.

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SilentNegotiator4345d ago (Edited 4345d ago )

I was serious. He spent a lot of time defending EA after he was out on his own. If he's making a "real" return this time, I'm guessing he's with EA now, after a lot of buttering them up.

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DARK WITNESS4345d ago

I think he said he was retiring prity much after gears 3 was finsihed.... then while in retirement he started posting screen shots of artwork for his next project.

Go figure

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awi59514345d ago

All the fanboy hate he sucks it all in and doesnt care. His games sold numbers. When people from epic are driving lambos and tuning out your hate this really is a crap generation. If i had that much money why would i care "Im rich b()*^" is all i would say to the haters.

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rainslacker4345d ago

He never really retired. Given his stature at Epic, he likely had a non-compete clause that prevented him from working on another game in the same caliber of GeOW. Given the time between his retirement and this announcement it adds up. Since he wouldn't be precluded from working on a game different from GeOW, it's likely whoever he's going to work for is looking at a GeOW type shooter.

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Magicite4346d ago

does he always hold that Gears weapon replica?

lameguy4346d ago

Do you not?

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DARK WITNESS4345d ago

He carries the sawed-off shotgun in his pocket everywhere

liquidhalos4346d ago

The guy comes across like a real tool, I'm not a fan and I'm not looking forward to the inevitable articles about him. It was obviously an attempt at attention retirement.

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ger23964346d ago

What a diva.

NegativeCreep4274345d ago

I know, right? With a picture and pose like that above, I wouldn't doubt that the guy loves to drink his own protein shake, if you know what I mean.

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DragonKnight4345d ago

@NegativeCreep427

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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2v14346d ago

oh shiznit justin biber is back

showtimefolks4345d ago (Edited 4345d ago )

oh you were gone lol, well i guess welcome back. Start acting like the macho man of gaming. This dude is the face of his games, not the actaul game characters but he himself is the face of every game he makes

he gets so much credit(a lot rightfully deserved) but i wouldn't put in in the same sentence as

Kojima
Gabe
Dan houser
ND presidents

he is like a B+ player who always brings the best hooker to parties to show off lol

also i am 99.9% sure he will go work for the new team over at MS(doing more gears of war)

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otherZinc4345d ago (Edited 4345d ago )

Thanks Cliff, looking forward to your return.

Hope you eventually make it back to Gears.

Whatever you make, make it Campaign Co-op & a Horde Mode!

And disregard the silly haters on this thread that never played the great Gears Franchise!

Spotie4345d ago

Never fails. Somebody doesn't like something, they never played it. Even if they did.

That's a fanboy for ya, I guess.

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thisismyaccount4345d ago

Wasn't he just giving a naughty dog employee a hard time telling her that the work she was doing was pointless and wouldn't be remembered?

from the reddit thread.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Gam...

But i was under the same impression, he had attacked an employee of a developer (didn´t know it was ND though)... can´t find the article or tweets.

Gamer19824345d ago

Funny he left when gears was being forced on him, EPIC sold gears and now hes back.. Always said it was because he was sick of being forced to make GOW series.. Now EPIC are making UNREAL again no doubt his favourite series he wants a piece of it..

Gunners144345d ago

Make a better game than him and then talk fanboy....

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Abash4346d ago

Didn't he make the same announcement last summer? O_o. I thought it was known he was working on a new IP and was teasing it even with cryptic images...

famoussasjohn4346d ago

I think he was more or less creating the art and was just a vision. He wanted to make an arena style game though from his last interview a while back. He was just having a hard time for anyone on accepting his pitch.

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jmac534346d ago

Cogs of War announcement incoming...

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sinspirit4346d ago

COW? :D

fallacious4345d ago

Moocus Fenix.

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thereapersson4345d ago

Udderly Ridiculous

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SockeyBoy4345d ago

another franchise that will get milked.

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awi59514344d ago

There are just as many uncharted games than gears of war games.

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sinspirit4344d ago (Edited 4344d ago )

@awi5951

It's kind of a different thing when there are fresh ideas and an active story and lore rather than basically just a generic war story shooter that doesn't have much variety in gameplay.

If Uncharted sequels kept being almost complete rehashes then yea it would be milking, but when they actually put out worthy sequels it's different.

It's like Halo 4. It is filled with plotholes, after Halo 3 finished things off they shortly after the events of 3 just spawn a giant alien force and hundreds of Spartan IV's like nothing just to force a sequel for money rather than having passion and ideas for a proper sequel. Basically, just rehashing ideas with no passion and riding off the franchises popularity. Final Fantasy 13 was also very milked. Not many true FF fans cared for it and the story was cliche and they made Shiva look stupid as a bike. Then they resumed to play out a generic sequel, and then another dumb sequel, and even released tons of DLC costumes on top of that. Quite ridiculous.

Uncharted 2 had a clear upgrade to the first. Multiplayer, machinima, more over the top action than ever before. 3 was kind of rushed but still a decent sequel that definitely improved some of the multiplayer. Most of the team was working on TLoU at the time 3 was being developed and still delivered a nice sequel. 4 is going to be a huge upgrade just from the transition to PS4 alone, and from most of the team having a break from Uncharted and in full focus on 4 I'm pretty sure it's going to be a great sequel.

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Aleithian4346d ago

That was fast.

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mafiahajeri4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

Bulletstorm was crap, one trick pony like David Jaffe it seems... At least jaffe had twisted metal as well as GOW

I'm sure the announcement of the new geowugthave something to do with it!

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Genuine-User4346d ago

You're forgetting unreal tournament.

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Death4346d ago

Your age is showing.

Cliff was also part of the Unreal team which was a pretty big deal from 1999-mid 2000's. You can see the list of games Cliff was part of here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Why o why4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

My pseudo hate for cliff stems for my lack of dedication towards my academics caused by Unreal Tournament induced late night marathons. Eff you cliff n co..lol

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HeWhoWalks4346d ago

Except that neither him nor Jaffe were EVER "one trick ponies". Your post even contradicts itself in regards to that.

OT: I never new Cliff was in retirement.

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SamPao4346d ago

pretty sure Bulletstorm is from People Can Fly...

MysticStrummer4346d ago

…along with Epic Games. There are several Bulletstorm developer interviews with Cliff.

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SamPao4346d ago

yeah but that doesn't make him responsible for the game. What was his position anyway on that game? For me it always seemd they just took him for promotion.

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Software_Lover4346d ago

I'm sorry, but I enjoyed bulletstorm

SamPao4346d ago

it was definately an enjoyable game!

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Why o why4346d ago

No need to apologise.....personal enjoyment trumps ANY external opinion

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frostypants4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

Yeah, I liked Bulletstorm. It was among the most original FPS titles of that gen. The online was awesome. Cliffy didn't make it, though...

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MRMagoo1234346d ago

some people enjoyed the spice girls game too.

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vallencer4346d ago

I don't think you know what "one trick pony" means. David jaffe can't be a one trick pony if he has two game series he made. Not only that but they are vastly different from each other. Oh and he also had calling all cars.

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MysticStrummer4346d ago

Hooray…?

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snookiegamer4346d ago

The ego on this guy??!!...Cliff 'Did you miss me' Bleszinski.

I've read some of his tweets.

Narcissism personified.

voodoochild3464346d ago

He's the Varnell Hill of gaming.Lol.

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AngelicIceDiamond4346d ago

Coming out of Gears of War retirement.

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Why o why4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

Yeah boy, He definitely cut a change off that.....

Godmars2904346d ago

Wasn't this narcissist suppose to have already been making a game? Had it on kickstarter?

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ziggurcat4346d ago

yeah, he announced some game he was working on last year - it was for PC, i believe.

so he never actually really retired...

supersonicjerry4346d ago

he retired from making disc based games he said he wasn't going to make any disc based games and go digital only but yeah seems like he is back

sinspirit4346d ago

Not from the gaming industry, but from the bigger titles. I could see myself doing the same after working on bigger titles.

Death4346d ago

When you met Cliff did he really seem like a narcissist or are you basing your opinion on his public persona?

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Godmars2904346d ago

Considering that he's sells games with his public persona, which addresses the needs of devs to make money over any obligations to consumers, do I really need to meet the guy?

Regardless I likely wont be buying anything he's made.

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Death4345d ago

The need to make money over obligations to the gamer? That pretty much sums up every developer on the planet. Devs make games for a living, it's not a hobby they do after their day job. If Cliff wasn't taking gamers "needs" into account, he wouldn't be selling any games. Last I seen Gears sold pretty well.

Not buying a game because Cliff is involved is foolish at best. You aren't buying Cliff, you are buying the games he makes. You should base your decision on the games content, not the creator that you obviously do not know.

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SilentNegotiator4345d ago

Developers do not need or benefit from lame fratboy personas. If he chooses to behave that way, then he's probably even more a narcissist for the fact that he's so enthralled with himself that he missed that memo.

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deepio4345d ago

Wow, a lot of harsh comments on this guy. Yeah he doesn't exactly come across as a humble developer but who knows how any of us would react to a bit of fame.

Who knows, he might actually develop decent new game, then surely we wouldn't care about his persona.

JeffGUNZ4345d ago

Who cares if he is a little cocky, he was part of unreal and Gears, I think he has earned that right. I found him interesting, he seemed real and actually had a personality. I didn't always agree with all his actions, but I never had the disdain that some have here. It's like he killed all of your puppies or something.

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Godmars2904345d ago

"it's not a hobby they do after their day job."

Its not their hobby but it is ours. One that devs such as himself have made about competition and d*ck waving rather than actual enjoyment.

Also, if you're saying devs and publishers have a right to make money over offering something, then you're saying we might as well give them money for nothing. That they can make any claim that they wish and not deliver on it.

Death4345d ago

@Godmars,
What are you rambling about? Gears has sold over 20 million copies and reviewed very well. Critics like it and fans buy it. Your opinion of Cliff is based on non-sense and your opinion of his work is unfounded. I'm sorry you don't like Cliff the marketing guy, but Cliff Bleszinski is actually a pretty decent human being when you meet him.

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Godmars2904344d ago

I'm rambling about not being interested in the Gears series, so it would be especially pointless for me to know its most vocal dev on a personal level.

Though, despite how the IP has sold or reviewed, I can complain about the damage its done to the industry, more so when Cliffy B is quoted as saying same, then proceeded to hawk Bulletstorm.

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Gunners144345d ago

Ive watched him in many interviews and he always seemed like a nice guy.....

sounds to me like you guys are jealous...also that he made an xbox exclusive wont help his reputation on this site

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MonstaTruk4346d ago

Because...he's broke. Hey, that's great...lol.

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kmanmx4346d ago

Broke ? You do know he was an invester in Oculus that was purchased by Facebook. He likely made millions on the deal.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4345d ago

He didn't invest in Oculus, he was part of the kickstarter funding which means he didn't get jackshit.

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fenome4346d ago

According to this he has a net worth of $15 million, I wouldn't call that broke.

http://www.celebritynetwort...

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Eonjay4346d ago

I wonder if he will be working with a publisher like EA again or seeking crowd funding?

jay24346d ago

good to hear we get another game

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mochachino4346d ago

A person who spent their life developing videogames is once again becoming a game designer. Shocking

I guess his dreams of becoming a commercial airline pilot are no more

fenome4346d ago

Didn't hear about him wanting to become a commercial airline pilot, didn't he own a restaurant as well?

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jujubee884346d ago

I guess he was a AAA kind of guy and is returning now that that soil is firmer.

The launch of the console was a scary, exciting time and he waited it out. Now, he's back bc the market is established to where he's used to it being; selling hw and sw in the millions. (This is the way I see it anyways)

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Revolt134346d ago

Welcome back! :)

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creatchee4346d ago

So much hate in this thread. Call me when one of YOUR games sells a million and gets praise from gamers and critics alike.

OC_MurphysLaw4346d ago

Was just going to post the same but instead I will +bub and agree.

Cliff has rubbed many wrong because he doesn't get all warm and fuzzy with the forum trolls. He became a spot light icon in gaming for many years because he was outspoken and took on a hollywood persona. That turned many off as "that wasn't the gamer way" but for me....I say more power too him. He had success with Epic, hopefully where ever he goes he will find more success because that means we get another good game.

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rainslacker4345d ago (Edited 4345d ago )

It's not that he doesn't get all warm and fuzzy, it's that he downright talks down to people who would be considered gamers. He actively played the "Deal with it" mantra during MS DRM fiasco, pretty much telling people that it was the future, and nothing they say will change that. Pretty much said that people either needed to get with the times or get out of gaming. He actively said that Digital was the future, even going so far as to say this gen would likely have an all digital console, and that people should just get used to it because what we have to say doesn't matter. I would argue that the gaming community proved him wrong in a big way.

The guy has his views on what the future of gaming will be, and because of that, he dismisses the real world implications of what he wants, and ignores the real world consumers desires on the same subject. We don't give respect to the forum trolls who behave like that, so why should we give him respect for it just because he happened to make some good games.

I don't wish him any ill will on his future endevours, but at the same time, if he is going to proceed to tell me what I should accept or GTFO then you can expect me to respond with my own hostility towards him.

Other than that, when it comes to his games, I feel he has a lot of passion for the games he makes. I have respect for his work, but a lot of that is thrown out the window once he starts acting like his opinion is the reigning, or only word on the subject.

There are other devs out there with similarly great work that can respect the fans of their work, or fans of gaming in general, and don't talk down to them. There are even those that can say what the future is likely to hold, despite not being popular, without pissing people off.

OC_MurphysLaw4345d ago

@rainslacker I do understand what you are saying about he "talks down to gamers" but I have to admit a good portion of that is justified by how horrible gamers are to developers in general. We treat the people making games like crap often and have little regard for their feelings.

BTW... Digital is the future so lets agree on that as it clearly is. Sony's plans now being laid with PSNow, MS's always connected future and Valve Steam pretty much put the writing on the wall.

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StrawberryDiesel4204346d ago

It's called jealousy, people whom are jealous tend to hate on others...

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kewlkat0074346d ago

I doubt you'll ever get a call but then again this is N4G, don't be surprised.

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lameguy4346d ago

And not just 1 game... 3 entire game _series_. He helped contributed in non-insignificant ways to:

The Jazz Jackrabbit series
Unreal Tournament series
Gears of War series

+consultation on a few popcorn games like Bulletstorm and most likely the initial ideas being Fortnight

starchild4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

Yep, the people that act like that are the real douchebags. None of these people have ever made any sense in their attacks on him.

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TXIDarkAvenger4345d ago

That's what I was wondering. Why is there all this hate? I feel like some people just hate to bandwagon on the popular opinion.

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HacSawJimThugin4346d ago

Welcome back homie. Glad to have you back in the game.

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gamerfan09094346d ago

People can hate this dude all they want but gears and Unreal Tournament are classics that will be remembered for the next 20 years in gaming. Cliff is easily one the best devs in the business.

Stryfeno24346d ago

Welcome back... the more IPs the better.

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matrixman924346d ago

Get him on black tusk. I miss the gears glory days

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maniacmayhem4346d ago

I guess the money was getting dry. I hope he comes back with something strong for the new generation.

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gamerfan09094346d ago

Lol money running dry? That dude made MILLIONS off gears of war and he's a huge investor in oculust rift. He must've made millions off of that alone.

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maniacmayhem4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

Then I guess not.

JeffGUNZ4345d ago

Yeah, he's worth over 15 millions. That's pretty wet (that's what she said).

zoolabus4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

So many negative comments, so here is a positive one. Welcome back Cliff. Looking forward to whatever you are working on.

-A fellow "bro"

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obener4346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

could it be because of this? :) http://www.youtube.com/watc...

SaintAlpha1014346d ago

Hey, CliffyB.
Jazz Jackrabbit 3.

Make it happen.

KontryBoy7064346d ago (Edited 4346d ago )

we knew him leaving was BS anyway lol.

kewlkat0074346d ago

This guy was a big part of my favorite 360 and one of the best shooter franchises ever Gears of War so I welcome him back. I heard Black Tusk was hiring..lol

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SINISTERGENESIS4346d ago

Unless he's willing to take a backseat to the guy in BTS ( black tusk studios) then he's gonna have a BF ( bitch fit)

FayZ_4346d ago

he made one good game, gears of war 1, acted like a king, & then ruined the franchise.

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MasterCornholio4345d ago

Did he make Judgement?

From what I've heard he retired after Gears 3 which was a very good game.

JeffGUNZ4345d ago

Guess you're pretty young. Never heard of Unreal Tournament, eh?

BitbyDeath4346d ago

So who's going to hire him *crickets*

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Dmagic4346d ago

dont be stupid who the hell wouldnt sony needs a arena shooter bad id hire him in a heartbeat.

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BitbyDeath4346d ago

Meh, there is a reason he got fired in the first place.

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CyberSentinel4346d ago

If he is working on the next Gears of War, And it gets "great" previews/reviews, I may have to seriously consider getting an XboxOne. I enjoy Halo, but Gears is my game. Although, it could be a multiplatform game....

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bestofthebest4345d ago

Microsoft owns the gears ip now so it won't be multiplat

CyberSentinel4345d ago

I meant the next game he is working on might not be Gears, so it might be multiplatform. I hope it is Gears of War.

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quenomamen4346d ago

Well you can only buy so many Lambos before you get bored.

D3ATH_DRIV3R_7774345d ago

So he can hate on what sony does all the time? no! he needs to stay in retirement. He makes me sick on the stomach! just look at him! look like somebody after him.

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Budobear4345d ago

Well lets hope that whatever he does now is multi platform but I guess that depends on who he goes to work for? Will he just walk straight back into a job with Epic or will he start out on his own (which is what I thought he had done any way).

PAYNEinc854345d ago

If he was a well known developer for PS3 exclusives you boys would be all over his dick though.

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Mokastro4345d ago

Hope, his next game is good.

Artemidorus4345d ago

Someone should give this guy a cake saying, "no one cares".

Isn't he the one who provided garbage such as Gears of War? That game was a pile of pure turd, Angular close ups and using the same animation going from left to righ. In 2014 that would of been a half decent mobile app.

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unjust754345d ago

This guy seems very full of himself.

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Ocsta4345d ago

Yay.

SH1ELD4345d ago

I like your games but whatever you did i never miss you.

monkey6024345d ago

The guy does present himself like an ass but regardless he has made an awesome portfolio for himself, worthy of our respect no doubt about that.
Does seem like his "retirement" only lasted a wet weekend though ha

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Goku7814345d ago

He must have got offered the right amount of money. Cant blame him even if he goes back to making Gears.

GundalfDeGrej4345d ago

Could someone give me a good explanation or link to why people here hate him? I vaguely remember him saying something negative about sony. Is that it? People saying he's just a douchebag doesn't help at all and it makes the haters look even worse than him.

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rainslacker4345d ago

Here ya go. He talks down to people who have valid complaints

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/r...

http://www.techradar.com/ne...

Or he says stuff like this, despite being a designer who is making these same types of games

http://www.xboxachievements...

Or says stuff like this, despite the fact that for the console maker he's actually talking about managed to support their last gen console for 6 years.

http://www.officialplaystat...

He disrespects other developers

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Anyhow, Cliff isn't all bad, he does have a passion for games and the industry. But he does come off as a self-righteous narcissistic douche a lot of the time.

Nodoze4345d ago

I met him once. Kind of a dick. Needs to get over himself.

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rainslacker4345d ago

I met him briefly once as well. Found him to be quite friendly and pleasant. I have witnessed him giving very good constructive criticism to some student project games. I've heard him speak at developer type conferences, and he knows what he's talking about when it comes to game design.

His public persona kind of sucks, which is why I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't consider him a dick on a one on one level. I don't discount his talent, just his ego when addressing the gaming public through blogs and interviews.

Gunners144345d ago

The guy is rich,good looking,has a smoking hot wife,and fast cars...he also made a successful xbox exclusive

That is the reason you guys hate him.....I doubt most of you even played his "dude bro" game to comment....

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zeroskie4345d ago

This guy thinks he's as good as Hideo Kojima or something. Quit with the diva act, make good games and we'll appreciate it.

Phils_Libra4345d ago

I didn't appreciate all his talk about how game publishers/developers cannot make profit on AAA games because of used games, & he staunchly defended Microsoft's unpopular position last year. IMO, his comments hurt the industry as I believe investors listened. I think he retired convinced of another crash, so now he's coming out of retirement as he sees the industry is very healthy. I always get the impression he doesn't make games because he loves games, but does it because he loves the attention & money.

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rainslacker4345d ago

I can't speak to why he retired, but have you ever heard this guy talk about games? He is quite passionate about it. He knows his stuff as a developer and a gamer.

He obviously knows a lot about the inner workings of the gaming industry, but I think he may not realize that the industry is bigger than the devs and pubs that make it up, and ultimately, it's the consumers who make or break the industry.

I'm sure he loves the attention, but I also believe he has the right to express his opinions on where the industry is, or where it will go, but he could be a bit better in how he puts it out there. He will get attention because of his status in the industry, so a little decorum, and less talking down to the fan base goes a long way in getting respect from others.

Phils_Libra4345d ago (Edited 4345d ago )

I don't recall ever hearing him talk about his passion for game design, but admittedly I've never found his games interesting, which is simply my tastes in games, so I may have missed those talks/articles. Got any great examples?

I have no problem with him expressing his opinion, but I thought it was hypocritical to say that AAA games cannot be profitable with used games as he drives off in his ridiculously expensive sports car. And this happened at a time when many publishers and developers were losing jobs and there were murmurs of another industry crash. I didn't like that he was essentially telling investors to not invest in AAA games because of his vendetta against used games which turned out to be the same 'forced down the throat policies' which Microsoft tried and failed at last year.

All this, plus his arrogant 'deal with it' response to always online and calling Notch a "pouty kid" for his opinion on Facebook buying Oculus, it's enough for gamers like me to lose respect, which I personally have. He simply doesn't seem like he is on the side of gamers.

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iNFAMOUZ14345d ago

ahh...sh** ......first justin bieber, now this clown coming
back, WHAT DID WE DO TO DESERVE THIS GOD!!!

GamersHeaven4345d ago

Good for you Cliffy more walk less talk please put your money where your mouth is you one hit wonder.

modesign4345d ago

he must be out of money

DiscoKid4345d ago

It's funny how this thread went from pure hate to complete booty-kissery.

russo1214345d ago

The world was great without news from this individual.... not again... please?

RoboticusRex4345d ago

Games aside, he always seemed like an egotistical jerk to me.

iluvmaPS34345d ago

Dave Chapelle made more money than this dbag and hes broke as well. Of course hes broke

mananimal4344d ago

save face and go back into retirement, CORE gamers have not forgotten about your many transgressions, your arrogant, cocky, and just a plain turn off...go away and don't come back, you will receive NO LOVE.....