you need to inform gamers about install size?

WELL he does have a valid point, because we all know that there are ps3s out there without hard drives, and those ps3 owners will be totally screwed.(end sarcasm)

and i'm wondering if their sites also review pc games? if so, Im going to read their reviews on some pc games, and find out the install size on certain games, and by God, they better F*cking have them in there.

edit: also keep in mind that the DAMN install size being talked about, is on the back of the damn case of MGS4, so i call BS..... and i'm pretty sure, they could just say, LONG CUTSCENES, and be done with it. BUT NO, ITS PS3 EXCLUXSIVE, so we need to bash it, and actually have it down to the EXACT SECOND in length time..... i dont know about other people, but i enjoy the cutscenes, and letting me know how long they are is a DAMN SPOILER....

and i'm also going to read up on their review of GTA4, giving the fact that you couldn't do any of the main mission without cut-scenes, so i'm gonna there and see how long those cut scenes from GTA4 are.....(end sarcasm)

in case any of you miss my point, They dont have the install size in the pc games, and they dont have the length of the cutscenes from GTA4, a game which is basically 50% mission,50% cutscenes..... in other words, KONAMI didnt ask them to do anything that they were not already doing........... the only that really bothers them, in my opinion, MGS4, the biggest game, by Guiness world record holder developer, is ps3 exclusive, and for that, they are pissed for not being able to put it under a MICROSCOPE to justify their BIASED INTENDED SCORE.....

every game gets them.

What's in your closet?

its not MGS4 getting attacked.
It's not the content. heck, it's not even the length of the cutscenes like some of you guys are trying to make it out to be.

it's konami's restrictions on something that isn't spoiler related.

if you watch the video, sessler points this out. it's konami's incentive to make a questionable request, that would have otherwise been simply overlooked. it raises a lot of suspicions now.

so what happened? Konami themselves turned an anthill....into a freaking mountain.

You think Konami isn't aware of how America has been treating Sony games. ESPECIALLY exclusives?

And with even something as grand as Metal Gear, you KNOW the American media will try to find the tiniest thing wrong and attempt to role with it.

In fact the parties that are whining and crying about it (i.e. sessler and gamespot) are some of the parties guilty of biased reviews.

So in a way, I don't really blame Konami for putting a leash on certain publications and/or websites.

I thought freedom of speech was about writing what you feel like, not what someone(Konami) tells you is ok =)

That was pretty well said. I don't always like him but this time he got it right.

Konami doesn't have any doubts about MGS4 when it comes to the cutscenes, that guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about when he said that.

Maybe Konami doesn't want the length of the cutscenes mentioned because they want it to be a surprise and they want people to experience it for themseleves? Who knows. The Metal Gear Solid games have always been known for their highly cinematic integration and it's not like die hard fans of the MGS franchise even give a sh*t how long the cutscenese are because it's not an issue for the MGS fans.

To be honest, I think that if Konami didn't ask certain reviewers not to mention the cutscene length, those same reviewers probably wouldn't have said anything about it at all in their review. And when did the cutscene length in a game became so important that it just HAS to be in a game review?

Sessler rulez!
Game with a poor graphics, 90-minutes long cut-scenes and last-century story can not get 10/10.

he makes a lot of good points.

I dont understand why Konami wanted it to be shh.. shh. It boggles me. They should be happy with the cutscene length no matter how long they are.

and the install time... come on now. People are not gonna say hey.."That is too long... I dont want to play the game anymore."

but still egm shouldn't of went on a b!tch fit because they couldn't mention install times and the length of the cutscenes. Adam made it sound like they were(are) minor features but EGM is reacting to it as if there were major things that needed to be mentioned in their review.

I have:

20 Gig PS3

DMC4 - 5 Gig install
Oblivion - 5 Gig install

I also have many PSN downloadable games.

They want me to forfeit ANOTHER 5 gigs?

I DON'T HAVE ROOM!!!

Ugh....I hope you know Konami isn't the first publisher to do this. All mediums do this. The difference of this of this case is that EGM decided not to put a review up of MGS4 and make a big deal of it. As for Sessler? He never liked the cutscenes in MGS. He always had crap to say about the cutscenes so whatever, all XPlay is anymore is stupid skits, Halo tips and stabs at Sony, so listening to them anymore is just stupid anyways...

Why b1tch about the situation. They have a review build of the game, and we have all seen to what that can lead. For example, reviewers changing scores because load times were very long in the review build but completely normal in the final release.

If the reviewers do not like the NDA restrictions then they should hold off on the review until the day of release when the NDA becomes obsolete.

These elements of the NDA, in my opinion, will not effect the overall quality of the game. The review score is an opinionated assessment of (you got it) the overall quality of the game. To feel that you can't review a game because you can't speak of how long/big is the install would be petty. Imagine if every review for an Xbox 360 game mentioning the possibility of RROD, or with every PC game review praising that your PC can be used to create games.

Don't know who that guy is but that video is proof of why Konami didn't want installs and cut-scenes length info be disclosed

Did this guy mention that cut-scenes are skippable? (which people that don't care about cut-scenes expect to be able to do, even if it doesn't make any sense)

did this guy mention that you can pause them?

NO. he didn't and that's exactly what KONAMI tried to prevent, many gameing sites, like Kotaku (even if the video is not theirs) are anti-PS3, they make full articles about how bad sixaxis works on GTAIV to write at the end "thank god they are optional", Konami knows that many sites would use this to bash the game without mentioning that cut-scenes are awesome or worthly, skippable, etc, etc

MGS Fans know that voice acting is top notch and dialogue awesome... non-MGS fans pictures a 90 minutes cheesy cut-scenes

I'm sure there's a theatre mode to watch unlocked cut-scenes similar (rather improved) to the one found in the other MGS game, there might be another features, but the thing is that KONAMI knows that if it allows to disclose that info regarding installs and cut-scenes length then KONAMI is also forced to release more info regarding that in order to calm gamers (newbies) down... which would spoil the game for many gamers as they want to discover those features by themselves

Do any of you really think Kojima would just put a couple of 90 min long-cut scenes in the game without giving the player options to handle them as it suits them better? I guess he knows that even the most hard-MGS fan have kids they need to take care of, go to sleep or go take a sh*t in the middle of a cut-scene

I don't care about the others, I know MGS-fans are getting what they expected a game for the fans...that reviewers can't come with their exclusives reviewes before the others is not my problem....I miss those days when reviews came after the game was out...when gaming sites even bought their own copies to review rather than expect review-kits from publishers

Just 7 days left!

Man I can`t wait for the long Cut scenes!!!! and Install times!!!!

But so far it`s been getting good scores so... Do not talk about the Install times and the cutscenes... ok, reviewers like to talk about whatever they want, that is the way journalist are. They like to write/talk. Konami is just being protective of his rather(50 gigs WOW) big baby-

This game could sell a lot of consoles for Sony.... but not with bad reviews-
I wonder if G4TV is gonna have the hype day Halo3 got?
Is Adam gonna talk about it with the wonder and hype he had with Halo3?

I really hope are so called journalists are not bias-
I Also hope people realize the amount of work that is put into those cutscenes-
And that MGS is truly a great game to lose ones self in, A thinking game, with puzzles stealth and story... Not a reload as fast as you can game-
friggin load times...LOL- Get Real-

Why do they want to tell people how long a cutscene or install time is so badly?

I had it up to my neck with this sh1t I mean all Konami did is ask this fcukers not to talk about this two things and what did they do they turned this into world wide hysteria now everyone knows there are long cutscenes and loading times and now they say we can't review the game cuz there are things we can't say but they already said it so what's the deal it's really pathetic how they grip the last two things to give the game a bad score

...how these review sites have people who support their actions.

They were given exclusive access to play an early version of the game.

A very generous offering, that was taken, thrown on the ground, and stepped on by EGM, 1UP, and Eurogamer.

You go and prove me wrong. Your seriously going to defend this sh*t? Konami asking reviewers to keep this stuff secret is bullsh*t. The fact you fangirls find this acceptable says a lot about you...

notice i said konami rep? i haven't seen anything. i have seen konami statement saying they want to protect the story of game but nothing more.

I didn't get to see the video yet but about the whole why people are getting upset about not mentioning it, I think it has to do with the customer. Most people might be fine with the big installs and cutscenes and I don't have a problem with the installs. But reviewers are suppose to give insight about the game so that the customer can make an informed choice. Just because you don't mind the facts about long cutscenes and big installs doesn't mean that's someone else's preference. So although some might review it lower because of this information I think a lot of sites went the route of not reviewing it because they wanted to give all the information to customers who want to make a choice before they buy. It might be on the back of the box but reviews can also influence pre-order decisions and for a game this hot a pre-order is most likely going to be mandatory.

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.