Party anyone? Seriously. Their history has destroyed their reputation and credibility. But who doesn't know that?

No GameSpot MGS4 review?

Konami should have done what MS always does to gamespot ,,,pay the checks in advance so that they would shut it and praise the game.

gamespot give it your 7.5 score and be done with it losers,,,don't try to justify the nonsense that you are about to do.

By the way,the long and boring cut-scenes of GTAIV with no mention in your review says hi gamespot.

^^^^^can some one please post this in their website?I don't wanna register there

"The more recent mind-boggling publisher requests have come from Konami regarding Metal Gear Solid 4--requests that we believe cross the line. The first involved an event that we wanted no part of. The majority of the American press was flown to Japan for a so-called "boot camp," where journalists spent two and a half days playing Metal Gear Solid 4 under the watchful eyes of the development team, socialized and dined with them, and then provided focus group-type feedback on the final day."... damn... I love metal gear.. but that sounds like brain washing to me... how can you give a bad review after going through that?

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@LenHart - if you read the article or the source.. you will notice that I quoted... so how can I be trolling if they are the ones who say that... I guess the whole article should be on the open zone... and no this is not about the PS3 only... they even took a byte about NG... Also, I didn't say anything about the PS3... if anything Konami is to be blamed and not Sony...

Irony, meet Gamespot, Gamespot, meet irony. I believe you two have met before...

Gamespot can go to hell for all I care.
I cannot stand that site.

"Famitsu 40/40"

Don't think we need to hear anymore reviews after that.

i blame the internets

while i take reviews with a grain of salt, i still trust EGM more than anyone since they are the closest and have the most consistency with my own perceptions. IGN i get hazy about, they have a bad track record with me. gamespot i always found iffy, even before gerstman. famitsu i only trust their reviews for jrpgs and japan centric games. they tend to grade based on hype lately, even if they are the "most respected" medium, so i get a weird feeling when they give FPS scores and such.

Gamepro? lol
Game Informer? the only reason i don't wipe with it is because toilet paper does a better job.

This game is truly that big, that many sites are butt-hurt at not being able to review it on time. But just like Halo for the 360, this is one of those games that doesn't need to be reviewed.

Quick question, How many 360 owners would've still purchased Halo3 if Gamespot, ign and 1up game that game a 7.5 or lower? or GTA4 for that manner? Reviews now a days are so overrated because there is to much special interest in these games to think that they are all truly unbiased reviews.

Knowing the track record and quality of product of Kojima and his crew I could care less if IGN, Gamespot, or Gameinformer (who I hold in high regard) gave this game a 2. I'm still gonna buy it and be the judge of what entertainment the game gave me.

Guess Konami didn't shell out enough advertising money huh? I'm sure all they would have had to do is just buy a few banners and a background like kane and lynch and mgs4 would have gotten a glowing 9.5 from gamespot. Funny how "journalistic integrity" works in the gaming world.

i wonder what the guys at Giant Bomb thinks of this

One less bias website to try and slow down the legend that is MGS4. Honestly if they had given MGS4 less then an 8 they would will have -1000 in credibility points.

BTW F U gamespot I hope you can see this middle finger from the moon you jackasses

Gamespot is a piece of $hit!
I dont give a damn if they give mgs4 a -1000/1000

i copypasted your comment at gamespot, so far, people over there are agreeing

Shame on GS for using this currently hot topic with a lot of attention, in order to gain attention for themselves and try to maintain their image of journalistic integrity that is completely non existent. No other Ps3 game ever has been fussed over install times, yet all of a sudden becomes a problem with MGS4.

Whats the big deal about not being specific? Why can't they just say that they exist, perhaps say there are long cutscenes without getting too specific, and still be able to factor it into your review without getting specific?? Why?? Because its garnering themselves attention right now and they try and capitalize off it. Gaming journalism has become a joke.

Wait wait wait wait. They are trying to have journalistic integrity now? So lemme get this straight. When Microsoft sent a free Halo 3 Xbox360 with a bunch of swag to every reviewing outlet, it's OK? When Konami just "requests" not to put information they feel could be spoilers for fans reading, all these stupid websites are attacking them? This industry is as corrupt as it can be. If MGS4 was a 360 exclusive, bet your candy @sses that it would receive 12/10s everywhere.

They're not suppose to talk about some things that could spoil something (certainly understandable) and installs. Well P:ToM's review may be excluded from (at least some of) that. That may be what they meant by world exclusive. I don't know. They did mention something about installs. Not much but I'll read and quote for you:

"Surprises begin right from the moment the game starts (after the install process, which also happens before the start of each new act). Just flick around the "channels" and enjoy!".

Thats word for word. It doesn't talk about the "channels" or installs after that, thats it. I don't know if I'm comprehending this right but it seems like it progressively installs the game data as you get further in the game. So if like you're only on act one it won't use as much space as when you get to act two. On the other hand maybe it deletes act one's data and replaces it with act two's. I'm not sure. I'm not saying that this means the data size will be huge or anything. This could be a good thing if it only installs the data you need depending how far in the the game you are. It would just slowly reach the full amount of space the data takes up. I'm sure each act is really long and these installs will be short. Maybe the game only uses a little bit of space at a time so people with really low space don't have to delete things to be able to play the game. Maybe I'm wrong on this altogether. I don't know.

What do you guys think? It doesn't matter to me. This just seemed interesting thats all. I can't wait to play MGS4.

Here goes GaySpot again.

i think gamespot should be charged with mutiny,then executed..how could people pay to be a member of that site?

the same gamespot that withheld their review of NG2 cuz MS asked them 2? yea.. Fuc off

Wtf? They didn't complain when reviewing halo3, in which MS gave every reviewer a bag of goodies worth 800 bucks. This is lame seriously.

Since when did Gamespot start caring about "integrity"? These are the same folks who got rid of Jeff Gertsmann over his Kane and Lynch review after bowing to advertiser pressure. So please, stop with the holier than though bit.

"Too much fun, cutscenes are too good as well. The game doesn't know if it wasn't to be a great game or transcend into gaming history."

Final Score - 7.5

Joking aside though i honestly don't have any problemo's with Gamespot delaying their review for MGS4 by a few days. Either way i like the approach they are taking with this situation by at least trying to make it seem like they'll give a unbiased, fair and credible review for Metal Gear Solid 4. That's all you really could ask from a reviewing publication that's had it's integrity stripped away from it thanks to them firing someone for telling the truth.

GameSpot is just trying to get attention that EGM gained by not reviewing MGS4 (eventhough the EGM situation may be all about gaining attention for themselves and nothing about the game or KONAMI whats so ever). It's sad that these reviewers have to come down to this complaining. Im wouldn't be on too much of a limb to say that GameSpot probably was not even invited.

To come down on the game's install is stupid. It would be better if there wasn't an install, just because we wouldn't have to use that space. But it has nothing to do with the game AT ALL; they should just shut up, play the game, and write what they think about the game/gameplay/story/graphics for the people who go by them

Also I suspect that GS lied about being invited to the boot-camp. According to ign, only 14 people were present. Who would invite lamespot anyways? Those idiots are just trying to find excuse to give mgs4 a 7.

first and foremost, why the hell would Konami want to put restrictions on this game in the first place. The game is a masterpiece in it's own right, and doesn't need restrictions to make it that. Non of this would have blown out of proportion if this had not happened. Second, if gamespot haven't received their review copy, then it makes no difference. They'll be reviewing a retail copy like everyone else - and can say whatever they want. Thirdly, i cant take gp's self righteous rant seriously enough. We all know the questionable practices they've engaged in before.

I hope Gamespot will give MGS4 a pretty low score.Maybe by doing so every GS editor/writer/whatever would get assassinated.

Ahhhhh!!! What the heck is the big deal about talking about how long the cutscenes and installation process? Why is that such an important thing to mention in a review?!! I don't care if the Installation process takes 30 minutes for MGS4, it's not like die hard fans are going to be turned away from the game because of long cutscenes. Just review the game you Gamespot bastards and give MGS4 the 9/10- 10/10 that you know it deserves. Whether GameSpot reviews the game or not, I could care less because there's already been tons of reviews.

Hold on a sec does this sound like a pre justification/damage control over an almost guaranteed polemical score?

btw MASSIVE LOL @ GS for using "journalistic integrity" that will have me laughing for weeks XD

Gamespot is like Fox News of gaming industry.

There are so many things I find hilarious about this article. Gamespot really is the worst out there. I mean really, can we just vote them off the Internet?

Gamespot is hilariously pathetic. Seriously, they'll probably have the same guy who reviewed Ratchet and Clank review this game.

His complaints:

Too much story
Too many cutscenes
Too much action
Not enough Sports
Too good animations
Too long

7.5/10

Gamespot is just doing damage control for what will be the biggest flop they'll ever give, with 60% less traffic than they had at this time last year before they low-balled Sony every chance they got and started firing the masses that worked for them.

It's called make your own Gamespot MGS4 review! I'll go first:

"Let me start of by saying without a doubt, MGS4 is the best game ever made for the PS3. It's transcendent. It's epic. It's everything any gamer, 360 and PS3 fanboys alike, could hope for. It's also very, very flawed."

"First off, you would think after 10 years, the folks over at Konami would quit with the exploitation and endorsement of cigarette smoking in its games. Too many kids are playing this game and Konami should recognize their responsibility to curb lung cancer and underage smoking. Snake should put the cigarette down an chew on some Nicorette instead. Guns and violence? Good. Cigarettes? Bad."

"Second, Metal Gear Solid 4 comes with a required 1 GB install. While this drastically improves the frame rate and load times, we wish Konami would have come up with a better solution. In the 3 minutes it takes to install the data, I could be taking a piss, beating off or playing hide and go seek with my pet gerbil. HDD installs? Bad."

"And let's not even mention the 90 minute cutscenes. If I wanted to watch a movie, my excellent XBOX 360 Elite console (provided to us for free from Microsoft, don't you just love that company!) can watch movies and more using the world-class XBOX Live service. Guys if you don't have a 360, make sure to pick one up, it's the best investment you will ever make!"

"Back to MGS4... make no mistake - this is easily the game of the year, easily the best game you will play this generation and easily the best game on any console. Yes, it's better than COD4 and Halo and Bioshock.

Pros: everything you could ask for in a video game
Graphics are amazing
Sound is the best you will hear in a game
Action is intense and rewarding

Cons: You can't actually spank the monkey in the game
You can't use Sixaxis controls to control every polygon
Explicit endorsement of cigarette smoking
Not for XBOX 360, no achievements or XBOX Live (bummer :-( )
3 Minute HDD install
Lengthy cutscenes
Too much variety, can stealth, play as a FPS or in 3rd person
Not girl friendly
Bland box art

Our score: 7.5

Because all the PS3 wants to do is rip people off

They Could've easily said lets go back to the drawing board

They are like bouncers infront of clubs they will not let anyone in unless you shake there hand and slip them a 20

They were going to give it a 6/10 anyway.

-The Cutscenes were too long
-The story is too confusing for people that skip the first 6 Metal Gear Games

Making a big deal about the things they weren't allowed to mention. Guess what, if they wait a week, every outlet can review the game and say whatever they want.

These restrictions were placed for reviewing the game early. Therefore, these sites felt they'd rather review the game and not mention certain things if they got to do it early.

lately, many games like GTA4, SUPER SMASH BROS., MARIO GALAXY, ASSASINS CREED and few others heve been getting close to perfect scores if not perfect without questions. but when great games for the PS3 like UNCHARTED, RACHET & CLANK, RESISTANCE and MGS4 are reviewed, they get beef for any little thing; especially from a site like GAMESPOT. so what is going on nowadays? Why is everyone now hating on SONY?.......... i mean GTA4 was dissapointing, but yet, everyone gave it a perfect score, smash bros was retarded and Mario Galaxy was G@Y, but they were almost GOTY, ASSASINS CREED was very repetitive. HOWEVER, UNCHARTED was just AMAZING and RACHET was awesome, RESISTANCE had great physics, nice graphics and great story line, but these games were not given a fair score. so my question is, why is the gaming industry not beign fair to PLAYSTATION 3?

now that i've gotten THAT out of the way, i have a question for a few of you:

imagine if there was an internet back in 1980 when The Empire Strikes Back was released.

imagine if the many reviewers out there on the net right now were covering the story.

i guarantee that MONTHS before release, the reveal that Vader is Luke's father would have been known by MILLIONS.

in the spoiler-laden internet infrastructure we live in today, it doesn't surprise me when a creator of work wants to keep it underwraps, not to be an ogre, but to give the true fans of the product a chance to enjoy it unsullied.

and no, it's not as easy as simply avoiding news labeled "SPOILERS!"

i remember when the last Harry Potter book released, jack@sses would post in rather innocent forums (example Topic: What do you think of Ron and Hermione? Discuss) HUGE SPOILERS concerning the story and it's conclusion.

that sucks, and is unfair to the people that have been following the series (whether Star Wars or Harry Potter, and of course, Metal Gear Solid) since the beginning, and want to enjoy it's conclusion in peace, without some internet a-holes ruining it.

considering how MAJORLY the web-based media blow out of proportion whenever a Playstation 3 title has an install (well, that's kind of what the hard drive is for. if 360's had standard HDDs, believe me, it would have installs also), and it's already widely known about the length of Metal Gear Solid cutscenes, so, for fans, this comes as no surprise, but the media LOVES to paint it as a negative, therefore, those that are new to the series could take on the media's view, and have a preconceived notion of those cutscenes before they even experience them.

i view MGS as a mix between an action game, and a sort of RPG, where there is a lot of meaty story to go through, but instead of simply reading walls and walls of text, like i do in most RPGs, it's played out for me like a movie. i LIKE that approach, and it helps to draw me into the game more.

MGS is a series that is NOT for everyone, but the game has been getting almost universally praise for it's GAMEPLAY, but the only thing these whiny, b*tchy, jaded, and bitter "reviewers" latch onto are installs and cutscenes? REALLY??

personally, i don't WANT to know about any surprise gameplay elements.

SPOILERS:

i'm already pissed that i unintentionally stumbled upon news about the interactive flashbacks to previous Metal Gear games that are scattered throughout the game to enhance the story. i REALLY would have liked to have been surprised by that on June 12th.

END SPOILERS

i already know all i need to know about MGS4:

it's Solid Snake's last hurrah.

it's Hideo Kojima's "last" Metal Gear Solid in which he is the head honcho.

it's only on the PS3.

it's pretty.

it brings in all the big and small players from previous Metal Gears, and wraps up the series.

and after being in the MGO beta, i've been able to answer a few of my own questions:

controls are EXCELLENT.
graphics are EXCELLENT (beautiful on my HDTV, and the whole game was anti-aliased; not a jaggy in sight).
overall gameplay: VERY fun.

i forced myself to stop playing the beta before it was up, because i didn't want "Warhawk Beta syndrome," which happened after the Warhawk Beta ended, and i went into withdrawals for those three months until it released. lol. GTAIV and Haze have kept me plenty busy while i wait for Snake to land on my console.

personally, i couldn't give a rats @ss about Gamespot and their inevitable 7/10 or 8/10 for MGS4, citing "too much variety," or "not groundbreaking in every conceivable way" excuses. the only opinion of MGS4 that matters to me is MY OWN.

Just Like I Intended Gates Breaks Bread With Yours Truly By The Way We Never Heard Of The Flopstation3 Coming Where Im From Check My Pedigree

if it wasn't for n4g i would never visit that site and read their garbage

fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me

I Bet All The Celebrities Are Playing 360 Jadakiss Trickdaddy Brad Pitt Bad Boy Deathrow Tupac & Biggie Are Probably Playing From 6FT But You Cant Convince Me Pac Is Dead R. Kelly From My City Gon Be Playing From Stateville The Archbishop Don Juan Off Madison Knows Whats Up Given Snoop GWF My Kinfolks Tyrese Is Already Is Validated With GWF I Mean Everybody Plays The Generic Brand Name For Video Games 360 Even My Therapist Dr.Egan He Says Im Schizo But I Call It Microscopic Vision

Some People Are Too Shallow To Take A Closer Look And See I Dont really care Im Just Saying

Well this sucks

Come on GameSpot, do not affraid to tell the truth about the MGS4. Eurogamer says it worth 8/10, what will you say?

big game rollouts usually involve catering the game in a fancy setting where game reviewers are fed with food and drinks in order to get better reviews. It's the name of the game and reviewers are quite used to it. That's one thing that is considered as a big plus in game critics' career.

I don't believe GameSpot crew skips all the game rollouts because they would simply miss out on the news material that produces their salaries.

FVCK OFF!

Just give it a 10/10 you know its gonna be that good lol.

Wow, just wow!!! Konami : "Please review our game without all the flaws and technical issues.....please! *puppy face*"

well i am one of those people that has bought my ps3 just for this game. i don't care what they say or think or what picture they try to paint of Konami.. i will own this game, even if i never buy another ps3 game ever... i think i will be happy just owning this game.

its that simple.

with respect, GS can go suck a nut. thry want to publish things that konami dont want mentioned then all they need do is wait till 12th when konami have no power over reviews.

until then its intellectual property and konami can throw in as many clauses sub-clauses and smallprint as they see fit.

i'm all for journalistic integrity, but it generally implies that you dont go b1tching about the very thing you've shown integrity for in the first place.

I rly dont care much for your reviews neway.

Gamespot are a complete joke.

Who are they to talk about unadulterated reviews and integrity?

Thank you, but no need for tainted reviews from sites that get money and fire employees due to review scores badly done.

Dammit Gamespot... do they have to be A$$holes about everything?

Gamespot getting a little preachy here huh.

A little too late IMHO.

You made yourselves obvious in 2006-2007.
Do you know what credibility means?

i mean i thought Adam Sessler from X-play was obvious but at least he hides his bias pretty well for being on a show that has stock in microsoft.
Gamespot is just outright "Show me the Money" website. Konami & Kojima are the only ones trying to put a stop on this corruption and these guys are all of a sudden calling on their freedom of speech cards.
Great strategy by Konami & all the ps3 esclusives should follow this trend with the bias reviewers & companies.
Its like Professional boxing now where developers sign contracts & in the contracts they negotiate what referees or judges will be at the fight. Sony only wants the Fair, honest & Ctritically brutal reviewers. while xbox 360 buys there referees & judges by looking for the weakest links.

Go take your medicine because them voices in your head are getting to you

Gamespot, sure you can talk about the cut-scenes, but do you really have to mention the actual length of them? Sure you can mention there was an install time, but do you have to mention the length of the install? What if they said "you are not allowed to talk about the cover art of the manual we provide."... is that also important in your review?

And, is any of the above really relevant?

Gamespot is reminding me that they do not focus on the most important aspects of a review: Gameplay, Story, Presentation, Graphics, Audio, Lasting Appeal, etc...

All other MULTIPAGE reviews are giving MGS4 9.9+/10. And their reviews sound like any other game review.

In the end, I am glad that gamespot is not reviewing the game.

I agree 100% with kingOVsticks (post above).

Gamespot sucks minus their forums.

I think GS will give MGS4 an 8.9, although it deserves an 95+ score they just wont have the balls to give it 9 or above. This way they are not giving it too low a mark to look ridiculous ie 7.5 for ratchet and 8.0 for Uncharted can you believe that? Anyway the funny thing is most people dont take there reviews seriously anymore they have TOTALY lost credibilty. Man they were one of my fav sites back in the PS2 days.

Get off your high horse and review the damn game. It's your job, infinitesimal exceptions or not. I don't like the Iraq war, and all the millions of political infractions imposed on soldiers, but I am in the military nonetheless, and I do my job. Stop complaining. You’re not as important as you think, and either are install times, or metal gear-quality cut scenes.

Some people aren't happy either way, I guess. I'm glad that Gamespot published this piece. It give us, the gamers, an insight into the seedy underbelly of the business. It isn't like this is the first time such a thing has happened? Remember LAIR and the "press kits" that essentially told reviewers how to review the game?

Gamespot's reviews are always going to be subject to my scrutiny just because of how they've fired people in the past for having journalistic integrity and not kowtowing to the publishers. But they have an opportunity here to gain back some of the respect that they've lost.

Too bad the rabid MGS fanboys are going to be out in force trying to squash any kind of criticism of the game. Nothing is perfect, so take it all with a grain of salt.

recognize the bias against Sony, that's why this guy wrote this article. Even a blind man can see the 360-Halo-love-ooze flowing from that site.

they are a$ shurt that they were'nt invited to that bootcamp. ah gamespot....

gamespot is pathetic

MGS has way better cut scenes than GTA, time just flies by. Anyways, who cares about GS.

I find it so funny that Gamespot of all publishers is preaching this bullsh!t. Jeez. Your reputation is shot Gamespot and no blogpost is going to win it back.

Colonal179 made an excellent point that movie reviews are not influenced by the line for tickets etc..

I think Gamespot has just gone down the crapper this generation. I used to respect their site allot in the Gamecube/Ps2/XBox days. Because they were tough b**tards to get a decent score off no matter who you are. So I used to go to them to see if a game was half decent and then make up my own mind, with help from them.

All of a sudden this generation, they are slapping huge scores on mediocre to OK 360 games, and just slamming Sony. 9.6 for Gears and no mention of slowdown. Def Jam Icon 8.1?? WTF? On what planet should that get the same score as Virtua Fighter 5? Halo 3 9.5?? (nothing new here) Perfect Dark zero 9.0? Forza 9.2 (total sh1t) KAMEO 8.7??

On the ps3 Ratchet and Clank 7.5? (no slowdown, beautiful gfx) GTA 5P (ok its a demo of sorts, but wtf) 7.5? Super stardust HD (one of the best shooters ever made, and blows away the 8.3 rated Geometry Wars) 7.0 Lair 4.5 (A crap game, but 4.5???)

I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy, but something has gone down for them to hate Sony, and Sony's big third party's so much.

I'll be amazed if Gamespot gives this anything more than an 8. They will probably try to tag it 7 or some sh1t.

now they don't have to find a reason to justify the 8.5 they were going to give it and still no AAA game on Gamespot.

I stopped going to game stop like 4 years ago? Hell I don't even care for reviews any more. Also can these sites just start giving impressions? Why should they get to review it before the gaming public? Send it to the pre-order people first or at the same time as the reviewers. Most of the time you know if you are going to like a game are not just because of the videos and pics. More times than not you already have the system if you are hardcore. Reviews hold no weight never have so I'll treat stuff like this the same way I treated printed game mags give me pictures in a nice format. There are plenty of better critics online that will not be paid off by the likes of a corp. We needs some thing similar to what they have on the Wii. You can not review a game unless you have played it for 2 hours! Actually you can only recommend it.

The true hardcore base is huge at a few mags or web sites can not possibly cover it.

Every time a news piece links Gamespot we should copy the text to another location so we don't earn them ad revenue. After years of lies, which have cost gamers money, they deserve this.

MGS... hmmmm the last video i saw of this game was spent looking at some guy running around with his butt in your face.... Whatever rocks your boat right kids?..... yup hope you guys enjoy

I can't wait for the game to come out so this nonsense will stop. (well and to play it of course).

Does anybody really believe there is a cutscene of 90 consecutive minutes in length? That's the length of a short movie. Or, is it 90 minutes of cutscenes in the entire game? I'm thinking it's the latter.

As to the install time, who cares? The detractors talk like you have to actually install it yourself. Do you people eat dinner, shower, read, watch TV, etc. Here's an idea. I'll try to be thorough yet concise at the same time so you can grasp the concept.

Step 1: Purchase or rent the game (hope that isn't too many choices).

Step 2: Turn on PS3.

Step 3: Load game disc into PS3 turned on in step 2.

Step 4: Start game and follow on screen prompts to begin installation process.

(Here's another spot that requires some decision-making, so if you are having difficulty, feel free to PM me. NOTE: Due to various time lengths of activities listed, you may need to do only one, or maybe a few)

Step 5: Eat dinner, take a shower, relieve yourself, watch favorite TV program, walk the dog, call significant other, help an old lady cross the street, buy some Girl Scout cookies, change your diaper, sterilize your pacifier collection, surf the internet for your normal dosage of porn, study English grammar and spelling (a lot of folks on this site would benefit from this one), or, and this one is my personal favorite, log onto N4G, and enter a post whining and complaining about some nonsensical issue.

Step 6: Return to PS3 to find install completed and game ready to play.

Now the 'between act' installs may require a little more planning and creativity on your part, but once again I'm here to help and only a PM away.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled tantrum.

I would read this article but I have banned myself from going to Gamestop ever since Kane and Lynch. Long live IGN!!

;)

Konami dont give gamespot a version to play to review nxt time and all will be good. If they dont want you to talk about something then dont talk about it or else dont review it like what your doing. Not like they said dont do it at all just dont do it until its released I think thats at least fair and good enough respect from the company.

Enjoy this until it comes out!!!!

http://nintendo8.com/toplis...

back in the days of ps2..now they have lost their credibility..i dont knw what they have for sony only games..i means i really got pissed off at the time of R N C, thn uncharted..thn comparing them to games like halo 3..i mean the game was not even next gen...and got 9.5..shame on u GAMESPOT...if u really care about gamers..just do ur job correctly and b unbiased.