is good news for us 40gb owners. downwards compatiblity i thought it was backwards

It to be so that you can just pop in a ps2 game and play it not downlaod it from psn. With install games and the movie and tv stuff that is sure to come people will run out of space all to soon. Im so glad I got the 60gig then upgarded real cheap. one of the best things about ps3 along with walpapers you can do yourself that is a sweet little perk. I have that woamn from forgotten kingdom on mein she's hot lol how cool is it that my wife did the back drop for me lol(shes much better at making wlampapers than me)

I really really hope so..
And what I know they never announced it, just thought about it.

I don't remember them saying that...

this is good for those people who have a big ps2 collection and don't want to keep their old ps2 lying around

When has Sony ever said they were going to offer PS2 games as download? They have only ever said they were NOT going to offer PS2 games as downloads.

I seriously doubt the credibility of this story.

The source - a console importer? The kind of dodgy console importers who deal in 'Grey' goods that I've known in the past would tell you anything!

One of the chips removed from the PS3 in order to scale it back for the cheaper 40 gig model, was video processing chip which the PS2 relied on. It was the removal of this chip that made it so much more difficult to do PS2 software emulation , and while nothing is impossible, I would be extremely surprised if Sony had wasted any dev time on this issue with so many other more pressing issues vying for their attention!

I do have back-wards compatibility having bought a 60gig on release day. I used it once - just to see what upscaled PS2 titles looked like! When you've got a decent collection of PS3 titles, you really don't want to go back to the old PS2 stuff - at least I don't, and I don't know anyone who actually uses the feature.

I seriously doubt this report.

if thats true, i know a ton of people that will buy one. my guess is that it will come with fw 3.00, jsut like there was a psx emulator in psp fw 3.00.

Well they can change the games so they could run on PS3, but I hear they were hiring coders so they would make PS2 games work on PS3

This is good, though i hope the firmware has something else for 20/60/80gb adopters, such as full mp4. and avi. support.

After Sony have done this, they need to improve the upscaling features... something on level with bleem which really made ps1 games look great... and if something lie that happens, ps2 will have new life breathed into them.

well it would be nice if it was for physical ps2 discs,cause ps2 has alot of quality games that i havnt even played and not owning a ps2 ever this would be great.i mean the quality cant look as bad as ps1 games lol. but the download ps2 games via network would be great aswell. BRING IT ON DITCHES LOL.

...that the firmware if this is real and included would ONLY be totally awesome is if you could play ps2 disc on the system using the firmware. If not then it's okay but would require a MUCH better offering of PS2 titles on PSN. Nevertheless PS2 firmware for PS2 disc would be a wonderful convenience that I'd truly appreciate.

I know I paid less so I can wait a year or two for the feature but eventually I want it or you are guaranteeing that I get custom firmware to unlock it.

i have a 60gig, bought about 4 months after the PS3's release, so i've been enjoying the PS2 games i've yet to beat in upscaled HD since i got my HDTV in June of last year.

i always expected Sony would enable PS2 emulation via firmware, as i expected them to offer PS2 games via the PSN at some point in the future.

why people got so up in arms about the removal of BC to make the console cheaper is beyond me.

i mean, if you want to play PS2 games so bad, wouldn't you ALREADY have a PS2?

and if you didn't, why was that extra $100 such a big deal to pay to get PS2 backwards comp in the PS3 models that had the feature?

i mean, a PS2 is, what, $130 US now, and a PS3 with PS2 BC is $500, without, $400?

i got rid of my PS2 when i got my PS3 (i gave it to my roommate). i didn't need it, and i viewed the $600 i spent on my PS3 as worth it at the time; $600 for built in Wi Fi, standard 60gig HDD, Web Browser (which i'm not ashamed to admit i use quite a bit when i'm too lazy to get up and turn on my computer in the mornings), free online gaming, built in memory stick readers (which actually came in handy when i was showing my family the pictures me and my fiance took on our trip to Iowa on the big screen TV. it's also been useful when i download UT3 mods for the PS3, PS1 and PS2 BC, so i didn't have to have more than one system hooked up to my TV, and, of course, built in Blu Ray player, which, at the time, was going for over $1000 just for a STAND ALONE BR player.

in short, i thought it was a deal. i didn't really understand what there was to complain about. the PS3 packed a lot of features in there for $600.

do i feel sorry for those that didn't pick it up back then. not really. i mean, they either didn't pick it up because of COST (understandable), or they didn't pick it up because of that old standby of the "PS3 has no games," and "isn't worth it."

back on topic, i'd love to have them re-release Ico on the PSN with updated to HD graphics (not new graphics, just graphics that make it more HD friendly). i've played it upscaled on the PS3, and the game is just too pixelly to work in HD. it just wasn't designed for it. Shadow of the Colossus, on the other hand, looks GREAT on my 40" HDTV. as if the Colossi weren't intimidating enough already...

there's a few titles that i think would be great for the PSN treatment:

Beyond Good and Evil (maybe people will pay attention to it this time)
Klonoa 2
Ico
Primal
War of the Monsters (speaking of that, they need to make an online enable next gen sequel of this. that would be AWESOME)
Psychonauts
Second Sight

to start off. all of them quality. all of them underappreciated by the masses. a cheap, HD ready PSN version would be good for them.

hehe i got the 60gb PAL version. Let me tell you, playing GOW2 on a HDTV on a ps3 is SWEET.

PS2 Downloadable games will put xbox originals to its grave!!!! XD oh and the 360 lmao

Yeah that is wuz up I had a 60gb but fored to down grad to 40gb becuse the blue light of death I lost a lot of good stuff that is the best 3 out there had my for a 1 1/2 and I got that error coad was foced to get the 40gb the big thing was no backwards got my money back for it so I bought the 40gb and bought every thing I had for the 60gb just had to buy sd attioment 2 extral usb ports any way take god for this hope it is ture

...That is awesome news.

what i dont understand is that if this is true then why release different systems and market them as saying " the 80 20 and 60 gig can play ps2 games" but the 40 cant? thats dumb. they should of at least had the forty gig play ps2 games from the start rather then wait for some damn firmware. im not a fan boy i think the ps3 is a very powerful machine. its jus sony makes stupid decisions with it.

hell yes

360 sucks. I'm glad I bought a PS3.

Seems really hard for them getting allot of good stuff from the PS2 library to the PSN because of license and stuff, I mean look at PSX games there is barley any, then again if the games are recent enough I think they can track down the original creators, I don't know I just hope they do this right.

heh, im starting to feel the same way about my 360 now that its out played by my ps3, come june 12 i will be holding a funeral service for it ;)

As an owner of a 40 GB, this would of course be a cool addition. When I purchased the 40 GB, I did so knowing there was no BC, and not caring one whit. I didn't own any PS2 games, so it didn't matter.

But, I can say with certainty, if this option were given to me, there's a few PS2 games I'd pick up.

But what about the 80GB owners who paid $100 extra, in many cases only because of the BC? I know I'd be a little peeved. I mean, if the 40 GB gets BC, the only difference between the machines is HDD size and a couple extra USB and Memory card slots.

Well, I guess only time will tell if this is true or not.

maybe there is a chance ill get to play Res4 and MGS3...the 2 games i feel i have missed out on

this will move some consoles.

Look like PS3 40GB owner is receive good news.

Congrats guys ^__^

I never want to play a PS2 or gamecube or original xbox game again in my life. They look horrible by next-gen standards, and they don't have widescreen support. I will never by a wii for the same reason, because the graphics are so horrific. I saw Super Mario Galaxy on my friend's HDTV and it was all I could do to keep from vomiting. Last generation games are gone forever as far as I'm concerned, and I say good riddance. I hope 40 gig PS3s are never backward compatible, because I don't want to accidentally download a PS2 game and taint the purity and beauty of my PS3. Forget the past people. Live in the HD age. Experience the power of a next-gen console, don't go back to the dark ages.

I guess there are people who use the slots. I know I've never needed more than one USB slot at a time.

But my point was for the extra $100, if all the machines are BC, will it still be worth it to get the 80GB? Considering how cheap it is to upgrade the HDD, and the fact that you can buy a cheap USB hub if you really needed it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the PS2 emulation. I'm just speculating, from Sony's perspective, if it's a smart business move. But then, I guess it would sell more 40 GB too, so who knows.

What Took soooo Damn Long to Decide this?

Anyways PS3 fixin to Clown the World & take Lead like it Father the PS2!

This is very cool news if it is true. If not...I can live without. *shrug* The PS3 has a lot of great titles coming out this year, so odds are that I'm not going to get bored any time soon. ;)

I would love to have access to the PS2 library, however. There's a lot of games in it that I've always wanted to play.

If this is true great news for people with a 40 gig. Plus being able to buy PS2 games off of PSN will be great too.

Good, everyone was complaining about price so it was neccessary but now that costs have been cut they should bring BC back. Its awesome if they can do it with a simple update. I have a 60GB myself, but my friends will be happy.

Good decision, if implemented.

PLEASE!!!

I hope it not! :D

I can't see why Sony wouldn't want to do this! The PS3 is more than powerful enough to emulate the PS2 through software/firmware without that Emotion Engine.

This means I can play FFX, FFX-2 again, and FFXII for the first time =]

And MGS2 because I didn't manage to finish it when I rented it a few years ago.

I had this feature from day one on my Xbox 360, Sony playing catch up yet again

12/6/2008 its very close so...... tell me sony`s (people) are you gona play ps2 and ps1 games this year? I don't think so MGS4,KZ2,FF13,HOME,R2 AND MUCH MORE........

I agree with your point XproPT, but I thought I would be playing GTAIV for months, and I beat it in 3 days, and it's soooooo much like the other ones I get bored before I get to the helicopter to jump out of it and try to land in a swimming pool.... sorry... anyway, I will be playing Digital Devil Saga 2 again and Probably a little Persona 3 in my spare time when this hits :)

Im pretty sure PS2 game disks will also be playable ALA 360!
Finally ill be able to play Ryu ga Gotoku Kensan 2 before 3rd part hits states side!

not surprised if this is true...

It is good that the 40gig may be getting the full backwards compatablitly that it was spurned for dropping.

As good as this gift is, I would like them to add to it and remove region protection from PS2 and PS1 games. Then we would have perfect backwards compatability.

Hope this is true! I want to finish the getaway. never played god of war either!

to DL winning eleven 8 in my HD.

BC is not Downloadable Content remakes. So hopefully it does not mean that you can buy DL remakes of PS2 games... but that it actually means BC.

There are so many great ps2 games I never got to play.

I would like full compatibility, not just software emulation...one of the things keeping me from getting a ps3.

take this for what it is. I doubt Sony will do it but since the 360 is doing it i dont see why sony is taking so long to do it

I hope it can play getaway 3 and 8 days.

yes please sony! i should have got a 60gig when i had the chance but im a price drop whore. this is one feature i would really like as i never owned a ps2

Breakbox, your not allowed to speak, you own a wii. That basically means you've had your testicals cut off (if you had any to begin with) so please stfu before you embarrass yourself further.

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.